Interesting study and ranking. Don't know if they have bias: Navigant Research Leaderboard Report: Automated Driving
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Tesla, Apple aren't self-driving leaders, study argues
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This is last years. It's really not a great analysis anyways. The "data" used to draw the conclusions is incomplete and skewed. Companies don't make public the information needed to make a real conclusion.
jelloslug
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Exactly. Tesla seems to be good at keeping secrets and nobody really knows where they are at in their autonomous driving program. They are the only manufacturer that has the luxury of being able to test their cars out in the public with nobody being able to tell.
Looks like Tesla made a critical blunder when they decided to try to do FSD without LIDAR. Until they fix that they will continue to underperform the other contenders (using that word in a general way, not as depicted ion the chart above).
jelloslug
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Considering that nobody even has a system as good as the 2014 AP system for sale to the public, I disagree.
jelloslug
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Nobody knows where Tesla is at with their FSD development. They have tens of thousands of cars on the road all over the world with the hardware they intend on using. You have no idea if that Model X sitting two car ahead of you is a test mule or not.
TrafficEng
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Humans drive with two cameras and a super computer, with AI and deep learning. So why, in principle, should a self driving car axiomatically need lidar, when humans don't?
Because our cameras are better, our supercomputer is better, our software is better. In principal, if the car can catch up on all of those maybe lidar is not necessary. In the meantime, Tesla loses.
"Today's Tesla vehicles also lack lidar sensors, which most other companies in the industry consider essential for full autonomy. And "even Nvidia has expressed doubt that the computing hardware it sells to Tesla is capable of supporting full automation reliably," Navigant argues."
Report: GM and Waymo lead driverless car race; Tesla lags far behind
Report: GM and Waymo lead driverless car race; Tesla lags far behind
Here's the Navigant report from which the OP's chart came.
Navigant Research Leaderboard: Automated Driving Vehicles
Navigant Research Leaderboard: Automated Driving Vehicles
To who? Who else is putting lidar on their mass-consumer cars?
davidc18
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Still waiting on Tesla to produce a system that exceeds the capability of AP 1.0 on FW 7.1. My Model 3 purchases depends on it.
jelloslug
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