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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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humbaba
sleeping until $7000
Yeah. You know, I almost failed my drivers test because I couldn't park in the designated spot without hitting a cone. When I pointed out that the car I was driving was larger than the space the tester shrugged and said "do it". So I plowed over the cones. Still did well enough overall to pass, but it was close.
Point being, driver testing has next to nothing to do with actual driving. Arbitrary standards and the whole "10-and-2" or "3-and-9" or whatever else is not that meaningful. What matters far more is alertness and ability to make split second decisions.
It's total B.S. Elon could borrow against his Space X equity and pay off Tesla's debt tomorrow. Larry Oracle could find that money down the back of his sofa. Tesla has no threat of debt default whatsoever.
This guy is ranting on about people using cheat devices and falling asleep at the wheel. Now I don't know about the rest of you folks, but I'm pretty sure that someone asleep in a Tesla on EAP is a lot less of a risk than someone asleep in another car without.
So whereas I also think better safeguards would of course be good, the whole argument against it is non-sensical.
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NOT-AN-AUTOPILOT would work.
Edit: It would be nice if Lycanthrope would wait until after I posted something before posting the same thing. Damn uncooperative Belgians.
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“Oughterpilot” because it ought to pilot.
Count me in on the "Not Autopilot" name.
My vote is for ‘Not A Autopilot’. Just like ‘Not a Flamethrower’Count me in on the "Not Autopilot" name.
Can someone run a poll on this?
I think we have many over reactions here.
Senator Markey not only acknowledged the achievements by Tesla in the front of moving us to renewable energy. He also pointed out the autopilot system's contribution to overall safety.
Obviously he can't act like a Tesla bull here and has to do something to satisfy the critics.
Only if Julie Hagerty comes along.
“do something” does not make for good policy. Changing the name just to change the name and adding yet another sensor just to add another sensor does nothing to improve safety, just adds cost and spreads confusion.
It’s not about brownie points for generally supporting Tesla, but rather either putting forward constructive ideas or letting it go. The ideas here are bad, and it’s not overreacting to call them such.
My personal preference: I value charging rate over range (minimal acceptable range for me would be around 220 km on the WLTP cycle) and prefer a sub-compact hatchback over larger cars.
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RobStark
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They primarily do that on niche vehicles, like the Supra and Zs sports cars. There is not the economies of scale to justify spending so much on R & D and tooling for niche sports cars. GM spends on Corvette because it generally stays unchanged for 10-15 years save for cosmetic upgrades.
There are alliances for transmissions and other things but generally that is two companies or groups sharing. Not drivetrains becoming commodities like LG Cells for BEVs.
Words of HABIT
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I've been following Tesla and TMC since October 2012, and I have never been more confident in Tesla's future than now. Elon and the entire Tesla team have worked wonders. Looking forward to the next eight years. Thanks for all the posters on TMC for keeping it real.
Tesla could eventually reach a trillion-dollar valuation, think tank says
Of those 10 million, how many will buy solar + battery for their homes?
How many new networks of distributed energy homes will be created? How much reoccurring revenue share will Tesla receive in grid services from those networks? P2P transactions? Receiving credits for home stored energy for supercharger access, vehicle purchases, performance upgrades, FSD upgrades, Tesla robotaxi services, any and all Tesla products and services?? How about Tesla’s own blockchain as the store of this value and exchange on this multimillion person connected networked market places of energy? An energy backed currency, who would have thought?
Revenue from sales solar+battery sales but a fraction of the energy services revenue on a global scale.
People are sleeping on Elon’s prediction of massive scale of Tesla Energy as global utility/energy company.
It is of my opinion this is the biggest business battleground of the future that is already being fought now behind the scenes.
Established energy players love electric cars, but hate rooftop solar+batteries that they can’t rate base.
The emerging function of human prosperity and happiness will include individual control over energy production and consumption through rooftop solar+energy storage, and electric transport, not the scaling of centralized legacy utility.
Tesla is best developed, organized and positioned to achieve this function’s outcomes. That means massive growth ahead for the foreseeable future as the entire transport and energy industries transition over. Tesla is a generational play, a big, big long term implication investment. It also is a idea catalyst for other successful investments in other companies that will play in this future.
Of those 10 million, how many will buy solar + battery for their homes?
How many new networks of distributed energy homes will be created? How much reoccurring revenue share will Tesla receive in grid services from those networks? P2P transactions? Receiving credits for home stored energy for supercharger access, vehicle purchases, performance upgrades, FSD upgrades, Tesla robotaxi services, any and all Tesla products and services?? How about Tesla’s own blockchain as the store of this value and exchange on this multimillion person connected networked market places of energy? An energy backed currency, who would have thought?
Revenue from sales solar+battery sales but a fraction of the energy services revenue on a global scale.
People are sleeping on Elon’s prediction of massive scale of Tesla Energy as global utility/energy company.
It is of my opinion this is the biggest business battleground of the future that is already being fought now behind the scenes.
Established energy players love electric cars, but hate rooftop solar+batteries that they can’t rate base.
The emerging function of human prosperity and happiness will include individual control over energy production and consumption through rooftop solar+energy storage, and electric transport, not the scaling of centralized legacy utility.
Tesla is best developed, organized and positioned to achieve this function’s outcomes. That means massive growth ahead for the foreseeable future as the entire transport and energy industries transition over. Tesla is a generational play, a big, big long term implication investment. It also is a idea catalyst for other successful investments in other companies that will play in this future.
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