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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Gerasimental
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Good luck to all longs today.
In case this is one of those triple-digit-swinging-50-million-shares-traded days I would like to remind everyone to try and watch the company instead of your account balances. I was quite tempted to sell some over $900 but caught myself with the reminder that Tesla was pretty much the same company doing the same things as it was at $180 less than a year ago, and that in three to five years TSLA we will be looking at $960 the same way we now look at $180 in 2013 and $420 two months ago: "They were so cute at that age."
Sure, take a little extra and roll the dice on short term moves, but the best move for most of us is to watch the company and the auto/energy markets rather than the stock price. The news since Friday has been the usual mix of positive and negative, so likely what will move the stock price are emotion, opinion, and manipulation rather than anything material at the company or with potential Tesla customers. The only reason to sell is if you need the money now.
If anything, be a buyer.
In case this is one of those triple-digit-swinging-50-million-shares-traded days I would like to remind everyone to try and watch the company instead of your account balances. I was quite tempted to sell some over $900 but caught myself with the reminder that Tesla was pretty much the same company doing the same things as it was at $180 less than a year ago, and that in three to five years TSLA we will be looking at $960 the same way we now look at $180 in 2013 and $420 two months ago: "They were so cute at that age."
Sure, take a little extra and roll the dice on short term moves, but the best move for most of us is to watch the company and the auto/energy markets rather than the stock price. The news since Friday has been the usual mix of positive and negative, so likely what will move the stock price are emotion, opinion, and manipulation rather than anything material at the company or with potential Tesla customers. The only reason to sell is if you need the money now.
If anything, be a buyer.
Fact Checking
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Yes, my data was correct, and premarket trading volume is now up to 1.1m ...
Don TLR
Active Member
Jay Leno's Garage on the Porsche, 16.40 in they talk about the Battery.
Jay
The range is just over 200 miles, other electric cars have more miles, what is the reason for that, to balance battery life with,, Doesn't finish.
Porsche guy
All the above, then talks about longevity, people would rather have real world longevity than a couple of extra miles.
Talks about extreme conditions and how temperature effects batteries, ect..
I would rather have the almost 400 mile range of raven and Tesla's ACTUAL Real World Longevity. The more competitors that come out with sub par rated miles the better it is for Tesla's share price and can't wait for battery day.
Jay
The range is just over 200 miles, other electric cars have more miles, what is the reason for that, to balance battery life with,, Doesn't finish.
Porsche guy
All the above, then talks about longevity, people would rather have real world longevity than a couple of extra miles.
Talks about extreme conditions and how temperature effects batteries, ect..
I would rather have the almost 400 mile range of raven and Tesla's ACTUAL Real World Longevity. The more competitors that come out with sub par rated miles the better it is for Tesla's share price and can't wait for battery day.
GBleck
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JRP3
Hyperactive Member
In case you hadn't noticed that's already happening, without any advertising. Reality is forcing the talking heads to start being more positive about Tesla or look increasingly stupid, something they can't afford.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
The CATL LFP rumor is a surprise but not impossible for at least the SR Model 3. NCA cell level 260Wh/kg gets cut down to around 150Wh/kg at the pack level, the more stable and durable LFP could get away with less armor and possibly less cooling to keep the pack level density reasonable for a short range version. Or the rumor could be wrong.
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Causalien
Prime 8 ball Oracle
Tesla is probably insurance against current macro trend.
Supply chain is wrecked. Tesla least dependent on China.
X Fan
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only three articles about the Taycan fire that come up in google news.... no bias at allView attachment 512373
Bloomberg just picked up the story (they cite Electrek). IMO Electrk's story was muted and took a shot at Tesla along the way. Perhaps looking to get a free Taycan?
btw: another report details that 130 Taycans have been sold in the USA to-date.
Still a head scratcher....battery day is going to be a pretty big deal.
Not sure what your trying to say here.
Buying off the press is not simple and straightforward.
Absolutely, in a situation like the Taycan fire, an editor might flag a questionable story (although it certainly IS a Taycan, even fans were debating), and ask her team to retrieve a comment from Porsche.
The advertising sales rep will fall over themselves to lead this outreach, since it probably IS a good reason for Porsche to increase their ad spend.
Whether that person‘s contact is with an agency or client direct, the response will be, “Please wait, we have more info coming your way.”
If Porsche is lucky, some other news will come along quickly, and after this pause, the eventual article will be reduced, or at least spun down with their official response. If Porsche takes too long, or the editor doesn’t want to wait, they will move forward, but only after cleaning any direct implications of company fault.
If the same thing were to happen with Tesla, there’s just no advertising relationship in place to initiate that “organic” suppression.
However, suppressing a bad story about an individual company is VERY different than encouraging articles that promote one advertising client at other client’s expense.
The truth is that Tesla is producing a superior product. The cost to media companies of telling that truth is not measured in what Tesla spends, but how much they stand to lose from the competition.
As such, getting Tesla’s truth out through traditional media is not just a matter of Tesla getting into the advertising game. They would need to dominate advertising revenue to dominate the narrative.
Start adding up the combined advertising budgets of the competitors to have an idea of how much money it would take to overcome this bias.
Good thing the products speak for themselves.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
tinm
2020 Model S LR+ Owner
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