...I don't think performed better as snow tires than most all season tires I've had on my car. My A6 handled better in deep snow with its Conti DSW06 tires than my P3D+ did with the alpins. So the Alpins are *performance* "snow" tires...
Bumping this thread now that we're a couple months into winter, has your opinion of the Alpins changed at all? Especially in snowy conditions? I'm considering getting a set of these so I can drive up to Tahoe for skiing a few weekends during the snowy season, but the rest of the time will be spent on normal warm California roads. Would these be a good choice?
The Pilot Alpins are good/very good in the snow, and excellent the rest of the time. They don't grip as well in the snow as a less performance-oriented winter tire, but the tradeoff is that they're far better in wet/dry conditions than those more hard-core winter tires. My purchase equation was that 95% of my winter driving would NOT be in snow, so don't compromise that 95% for the 5%.
Since PA4's don't come in the standard XL rated size of 235/40R19, what 19" version would you recommend? Or would the NON XL 92V rated regular 235/40R19 be ok?
Or maybe 245/35R19? Arrrghh. Someone please help.
I run these as my winter tire. Get the Porsche N-spec version to get the model 3 235/40/19 size. The load rating of 92 is identical to the Performance 20" PS4S load rating. Telling the shop that you have a performance model will eliminate the need for discussion here. Should you need chains for very bad conditions, this particular N-spec tire runs wide and may cause fitment issue.
XL load rating is explained poorly across the industry. It does not mean that 92 load rated tire caries less weight than a "92 XL" tire. The 92 is the bottom line. Take the 235/45/18 size for the Model 3. A load rating of 94 is the industry standard for this size. An "XL" in this size bumps it up to 98. This 98 is equivalent to any other tire with a 98 load rating.
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Because the Performance model shows up with 92 load rating in the system and thus is in spec with the database.Thanks. Why would telling the shop I have a performance model change anything? They already told me they wouldn’t install a tire out of spec vs what the oem calls for.
Was curious if you went with these tires or something different as I feel like I need a winter tire for the MY.I live in Denver, CO. Does anyone have experience with the 20" Michelin Pilot Alpin 4 snow tires? The following video gives them a good review, but I'm curious to see if there are any other opinions.