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Allow me to disagree. The day before downgrading from SR+ to SR the miles shown were spot on the 240 miles at 100%. As soon as downgraded it went to 209 instead of 220. Even understanding it’s a small difference still looks like it was cut more energy than what was supposed to be. To me it’s...

Tried today full charge SR 2019: 209 miles

l can see the logic of Tesla at least with those that took delivery before the SR+ price decrease. In my view they should compare the cost of SR when it was bought to the price of SR+ at the same time. If not, a person that bought the SR+ at the same time would be wondering why he/she is not...

I have an SR and I had an SR+, but I asked for the downgrade. So the car is exactly the same, what you don’t get is basically more range and AP (which you can buy for 3K but I’m one of many that hopes for a “discount” in the future) Fog lights are not included in both now,rear heated seats are...

Same here

I would love subscription too, but being frugal I would never spend 50$ in a subscription, anyhow I would be ok t if the price to buy would be 2000. I know, I know doesn't make sense but I'm old school and prefer to own than rent.

Yes, I know that for sick persons using the mask limit the probability to spread it, but if you’re healthy doesn’t make you virus safe. So if people are buying to protect themselves doesn’t really work. Physical Distance is more effective.

Agree especially on the last part. My note on N95 is to make sure people understand that wearing a mask is not going to make you virus safe. Worrying on filtering out the virus from your car is unjustified panic.

N95 doesn’t filter Covid-19. If you guys are concerned about it the best way is avoid human being proximity and wash hands with warm water and soap

Agree, I found him hilarious

If the financial including the rebates is as you said and the LR is in good shape I would go with the LR. Nothing against SR+ which will be more tan enough for your needs, but you’ll get more car for basically the same price. Note I have an SR and a minivan, so similar setup as you, even if I...

To me it’s a great idea to put it as an option after you bought the car. Tesla can avoid to create too many variant, same HW for everybody and via SW different upgrades if you want them or not. It’s actually very good for the end user, how many times I bought something and later said, we’ll I...

Thank you for the idea. I checked on the website of the county and looks like KBB is not acceptable, there are a couple of document I can propose like the bill of sales. I'm just trying to recover it.

I received today my NC combined vehicle registration renewal and property tax notice. Long story short they appraised my car 50KUSD. But when I bought my model 3 SR (not SR+ plain SR) the value was 35K, so basically it appreciated 15K in 12 month. If it keeps appreciating like this I'll be able...

As a lot of people said: 1) House 2) Car But I’m a family man so get married too! And if you’re planning to have kids soon go for the model Y once you’ve bought the House

There is an old comparison table that was available in the forum. My experience (I downgraded from an SR+ to SR) is that SR lacks 20miles, partial immersive sound, AP (you can have for additional 3000), that’s it.

Front seats are heated. Source: I own an SR (not SR+)

Seats are the same, SR+ and SR interior is the same. The car is physically the same car. Little difference of money is relative to what a person can/want to afford. 4.5/5KUSD can be a lot of money for feature not needed today and that can be added in the future

SR and SR+ have both front heated seats. Difference between the 2 car is: 1) 20 miles of range (software) 2) Autopilot

I have the SR in NC. Different weather, but to give you an idea my RT is 12.2 , and those days that we are around 40 I loose 10 to 14% in total. I charged during the nigh with a 110 standard plug and it’s more than enough ( charge roughly 3 miles per hours) For long trips (600+ miles one way)...

He was actually pointing out in a nice way that 0.32 cents per day is wrong, it’s 32 cents per day and not 0.32 cents per day

Long shot: he said he was doing the upgrade so no sentry mode available?

IMHO I would keep the RAV4 and use it for more years to come. Reasons: 1) Model 3 doesn't fit 2 gold bag and a strolley 2) Model Y as only car is a little risky in terms of range, or will make your trip longer 3) If it's because the environment, I think is better to keep your car and not to have...

You’ll see on the screen when you click on the “T” it shows your car model. SR has front heated seats like SR+.Difference as said is 20miles. Little more acceleration and (for those cars bought after mid April) AP. Fog light in the SR+ it depends on when the model was bought

Thank you for taking the time to provide me with additional information and explanation and for allowing me to understand I couldn't express myself correctly. I know that rated miles doesn't take into consideration an of the factor I listed, what I was saying is that if I can drive 220 miles...

Thank you for the constructive feedback. I provided real world i formation above in the thread, but probably were not aligned with your expectations or desiderata. My apologies for being factual. BTW: may you please provide the “lot” of facts that I stated that were found wrong?

198 means 10% degradation. I’m ignorant but isn’t there a sort if warranty on the battery? Edit: the battery needs to lose 30% to be replaced under warranty

My apologies for being brutally honest, but “a lot” means more than 1 Interesting the test you’re performing, not sure it will mean anything to Tesla, since the constant tantrum is that the screen shows an estimate, and the real world test is affected by too many factors, but would be...

Thank you. Mine was 240 as SR+ to 216 after downgrade to SR

How much did it show when it was new?

Looks like multiple SR owners are reporting lost of estimate range when downgraded from SR+ to SR. Would like to understand how many SR owner are seeing less than 220 miles of estimated range on the screen.

Some FACTS: Before downgrading the display showed the equivalent of 240 miles, spot on After downgrade (same day) the display showed the equivalent of 214 miles, 6 less than expected 220 and is keeping the same value Batteries do not downgrade 2.5% in 12 hrs. wh/mi is shown on the same screen...

Not exactly. In your example what Tesla did was not make available part of the gas tank, and recalibrate the gage to show full anyhow. Why doesn’t the gage show full ? Because they shrinked the tank too much? The system make a calculation according to some parameters. The point was that the...

Either case the result is not correct. Giving back the 220Miles at 100% it's a pure mathematical calculation, so why doesn't Tesla send an update to fix it? Either Tesla made a mistake with the range meter or a mistake with the battery

I've been this morning to the Raleigh, NC Service Center. Just wanted to give kudos to those professional that helped me. They were very helpful, listen to my problems, fixed what needed to be fix and always with a smile on the face being super nice to me, even if sometimes I'm a very pushy...

interested as well

Not sure. Let’s assume you paid 37 for your car and now you downgrade and the value of the car is 35. After 2 years let’s assume de. depreciation is 30%. 37*30%= 11.1 35*30%= 10.5 Basically you’ll still be ahead of 600USD. The question is are 600USD worth? the change

My 2 cents on why it does NOT consider driving habits: I’m constantly around 220w/hr consumption I have the consumption fromthe beginning at it’s 224. Both numbers are below the consumption figure that would be used to calculate 240 (SR+) or 220 miles (SR) Before downgrade I was aleays spot on...

Got mine today

That is exactly the difference between SR+ and SR. How do I know? I had an SR+ and I agreed to downgrade to SR for a refund. It all matches 100%

I even downgraded from SR+ to SR. It is still our 2nd car, first one is a minivan that we use on long trip or when we need trunk space or when we go to the beach (sand and my Model 3... no way). It’s too much of a personal choice, I don’t believe in the more range the better works for everybody...

Thank you for the ideas but 1. I had dots in the past even below 70%, not sure if the test would make sense 2. I don’t know how to check the supercharging rate past 80% (never supercharged) and not sure how to know if the SW is doing something “strange” like doesn’t care about the top or bottom...

So looking at my recent experience I’m thinking the battery is top limited. It’s basically a mathematical reason so I could be wrong. I always charge up to 70%. I don’t change the percentage. When I was downgraded (yesterday) I took the car after not having charged it and it was 75%. So I’m...

I received the downgrade too. Changes so far were as expected: 1) Less range 2) No fog lights 3) No immersive sound I haven’t noticed any difference at all since: 1) I drive using the chill mode to save energy, tires and have various components being less stressed 1b) I drive 12 miles roundtrip...

Nothing, no inspection needed in NC when you buy a new car. You’ll have to pay taxes couple of weeks after delivery, but you’ll get a letter at home with all the info.

Great post! I had a very good experience with my Delivery Center in Raleigh. They’ve been super nice and patient with me! I’m ashamed never posted it to give them kudos.

Why should he take a “chill pill” with the lying accusation? If not lying in what is it? I love my car and Tesla as company so far has been good to me, but doesn’t mean that we should accept everything. Please note: it would be easy for the company to change the screen to “available in the future”.

I don’t understand the comment . The OP paid for a feature that Tesla said is available, not that will be available but that IS available, Looks like from the comment he should accept that maybe will be available one day. I think this is not what I’m expecting from a company whose mission is to...

Translated in my language it means you need space in the trunk. Even if it kills me suggesting you that I would go with the Jag... You like the interiors and the exterior more and has more cargo room/functionality.

Same here. chat with Tesla last week I was told it will take a couple of more weeks to process the payment