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  1. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I know this isn't news to anyone, but holy smokes Fremont is a convoluted mess. Shanghai, Austin and Berlin look so much better than this. Can't hurt for margins and for quality, especially if Fremont looks like this on the inside too, in terms of layout.
  2. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Notes from the conference call ~~~MOD: For posterity's sake, this excellent summary has been copied in the "Of Merit" thread~~~ Elon First roadrunner battery line at scale in Berlin FSD: somewhat wider release early next week, wide release "hopefully by the end of this year" works offline, no...
  3. Reductionist

    Moderators' Choice: Posts of Particular Merit

    Notes from the conference call Elon First roadrunner battery line at scale in Berlin FSD: somewhat wider release early next week, wide release "hopefully by the end of this year" works offline, no high definition maps needed, works in places new to the Tesla fleet Berlin and Austin: expect...
  4. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Never heard of him before. In any case, there's almost nothing we can deduct from these tweets wrt the capability of the rewrite, even if this is genuine. I would recommend waiting a day or two for youtube videos to show up. Then we can judge for ourselves how good the new software is.
  5. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don't really care for specific delivery milestones that much tbh. I just want to see ~50% CAGR for deliveries for the next 5+ years. If they manage that, the company as a whole is on a good trajectory.
  6. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    For what it's worth, Troy has just posted his 2021 delivery estimate - he's forecasting 60% growth in deliveries relative to his expectation for 2020 (500k). Glancing over his numbers, seems like there is still quite a bit of upside potential there, especially for Giga Berlin.:D As a point of...
  7. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Progress update on the Moss landing project: 69 Megapacks (207 MWh) of the final 256 are already on site so production seems to be going quite well. Anyone know who's supplying the cells for the megapack? https://twitter.com/carsonight/status/1307538149019508737
  8. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This looks like a Model Y body to me (note the position of the roof cross bars and the shape of the rear end). Seems like trial production is underway, at least for BIW.
  9. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Some really nice aerial shots of Giga Berlin from today, courtesy of @gigafactory_4. The rate of progress has honestly really surprised me; way beyond what I would have expected in Germany. See this and this google photos album for regular updates - highly recommended!
  10. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Notes from Battery day: (everything I thought was significant in one post, to avoid clutter) ### General note: The presentation was extremely information dense, which in my opinion has caused the "nothing new" sentiment that some are expressing here, because there isn't one shiny thing as a...
  11. Reductionist

    Moderators' Choice: Posts of Particular Merit

    Notes from Battery day: (everything I thought was significant in one post, to avoid clutter) ### General note: The presentation was extremely information dense, which in my opinion has caused the "nothing new" sentiment that some are expressing here, because there isn't one shiny thing as a...
  12. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Tesla is faced with the difficult balancing act of disclosing a bunch of massive advancements, without spelling the implications for products out so clearly that a large fraction of potential customers delay their purchase of existing products. They can't be too clear in terms of product roadmap...
  13. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Notes from the annual shareholder meeting (everything I thought was significant in one post, to avoid clutter) - Shanghai over 1M annual production over time - "I think the future looks very promising from an annual profitability standpoint" - Tightening supply chain major factor in achieving...
  14. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Clearly. But TSLA just tracking macros with the usual 2-3x multiple just doesn't feel quite right on very positive news, now does it?:rolleyes:
  15. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Regulatory credit sales are completely legitimate revenue, and even though they are lumpy, they are not one time items by any means. I don't see any problem here
  16. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don't think it does? The performance of any given NN is based both on architecture and the training data used. Tesla currently has such a high performance system not because their architecture is all that special (it isn't, see talks by Andrei Karpathy for details), but because they have...
  17. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Ok, I'm about halfway through the application. Here are some of the more interesting points: Key changes: Height of the building reduced from 24m to 14m for majority of the footprint, except: stamping, casting, paint Plastics workshop removed Battery pack manufacturing removed Drive unit...
  18. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Not sure if this has been posted yet, but the revised application for Giga Berlin is online. It's ridiculously detailed (390MB, 3300 page PDF) and in german. I'm currently reading it, will report on any interesting tidbits in 3 months maybe, 6 months definitely
  19. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    17400 sales globally last year, 10.7% of total Jaguar sales, according to this InsideEVs article. Also says ~24k total sales globally since introduction.
  20. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Oh wow. This can't be good for margins... Jaguar dealers are offering whopping $20,000 discounts on the I-Pace EV "We may lose money on every sale, but we'll make it up in volume" - Jaguar, probably Still a...
  21. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    According to this article [German], Tesla is planning to employ about 2000 people in it's planned R&D center in Berlin, which is going to be located in the EUREF business park, specifically in the Gasometer. Converting the gasholder to office spaces will take about 3 years, according to the...
  22. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Tesla got permission to start work on the foundations of Giga 4. Like with all the other permits so far, Tesla can start working at their own risk before the whole project is approved (the approval process is stuck due to a public hearing that can't be held due to COVID as far as I know), and...
  23. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Do you happen to have data on test positivity rates / daily number of people tested / deaths per day? Without this information the data you posted isn't terribly useful, the increase in cases may simply be caused by increased testing. On the other hand, this data may well be used to try to...
  24. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Whole paper is available on everyone's favorite website, for those interested.
  25. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think the whole license plate discussion kind of misses the point. Judging from Elon's comments on what the SpaceX package will be able to do (ie. significantly increased acceleration), I think it's reasonable to assume that the thrust of the system is planned to be on the order of 2000-5000...
  26. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don't get this argument: Wouldn't you want to hire the best lawyers you can access regardless of your chance of success, because it's always a net positive for your case? I don't get the logic of saying "this is a slam dunk case, we can afford to hire the cheap lawyers". Does any large...
  27. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The lawsuit has accomplished it's purpose of putting pressure on Alameda, so I see the logic in dropping the suit. Unfortunately, this will inevitably be spun as an admission on the part of Tesla that they had no real case to begin with. With them not pursuing a settlement, this will be...
  28. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Gigafactory 3 is running at full tilt: loading bays are almost all occupied, outbound logistics lot is filled Overview of the current state of construction: The extension of Phase 1 is being closed up, foundations are being built next to the battery workshop, roofing on Phase 2 has started...
  29. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This makes no sense sadly. Let's assume that Tesla is currently at $100 per kWh on the cell level. The new cells would lower that to $60 per kWh, for a saving of $3000 per vehicle with a 75 kWh battery. The Model 3 long range is currently $49k. Even if you were to strip down other aspects of...
  30. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Elon giving some additional detail on battery day: Let the speculation commence! This is getting more exciting by the day:p
  31. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Drone Flyover of Fremont on the 13th: Some activity in the outbound logistics lot (9 car carriers, maybe about 100 finished vehicles), employee parking ~70% full, 6ft distance between workers waiting to enter the plant.
  32. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This could be massive if true, highly recommend reading the entire article: Exclusive: Tesla's secret batteries aim to rework the math for electric cars and the grid - Reuters Key sections: "Tesla Inc plans to introduce a new low-cost, long-life battery in its Model 3 sedan in China later...
  33. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Also, there are new Giga 3 images available on Buildingtesla. There are some changes visible, to put it mildly:cool:
  34. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This is incorrect, this is indeed a megapack. Compare the image in the twitter post with Teslas website, especially the top vent Contrast this with a powerpack, which is about the size of a server cabinet: From this Twitter post it became clear to me just how compact the megapack is; truly...
  35. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Considering that this is going to be the first crewed launch from US soil in 9 years, the public interest should be incredibly high. This Model X will be plastered all over the news:D. To give some perspective, the Falcon Heavy test launch had over 2 million live viewers on Youtube, and now has...
  36. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Could we please stop discussing the intricacies of automotive paint application processes in this thread?
  37. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    New filing: www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.359281/gov.uscourts.cand.359281.4.0.pdf Key section:
  38. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Based on this it seems to me that even the Alameda county legislature would like to reopen Fremont, and that Erica Pan is literally the only person stopping it from happening. Am I reading this correctly?
  39. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    --Disregard the above post post-- This graph compares two different metrics that cannot be directly compared. I didn't catch that unfortunately:oops: Post deleted
  40. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The images aren't higher resolution unfortunately. I find it's easier to see the differences on the website, because you can switch between the images instantly there. Look at the parking lot to the left of the plant, then you should be able to see it.
  41. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Alameda county sheriff on whether he is going to arrest Musk: (skip to 2:15) He certainly seems motivated to do so /s:D:rolleyes:
  42. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It's somewhat of a tradition at the IEA at this point, but people still take them seriously for some reason:rolleyes:
  43. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Disagree. No matter how stupid you think somebody may be, that's not a reason to be happy when they won't buy your product anymore. Tesla is in the business of moving product, not cultivating virtuous supporters at the cost of sales.
  44. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Also, as Tesla scales it needs to increase it's TAM. The historical situation has been that 10% of the country loves Tesla (if that), and 90% are either indifferent or hostile. This is fine, and probably advantageous for a small business that needs a small number of high conviction customers...
  45. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Something to consider when estimating shift sizes based on parking lot pictures: Tesla has in the past heavily encouraged ridesharing due to parking limitations. I would be willing to bet they now heavily encourage not ridesharing to limit infection risk, so employees per car should be way down...
  46. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Do you have a source on the upgraded production lines? I thought "Minimum Basic Operations" included only necessary maintenance, not line upgrades. Would be awesome though if true.
  47. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    New satellite images on Buildingtesla show the Fremont employee parking lot about half full on Sunday, May 10th. It was completely empty on May 5th. This supports that Tesla has continued to restart production over the weekend.
  48. Reductionist

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Alameda case has been assigned to a judge. Scheduling order to be filed in the next two days. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17144713/tesla-incorporated-v-county-of-alameda/