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alright my friends. last post from me. It has been great shooting the *sugar* with you all over the last year, lots of good times and memories. I won't waste too much time here but I decided to skip the Model S. If you read my most recent posts then youll know why but between reading everyones...

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Yeah my model 3 order said 30 days. I was verbally told 6 months. I made a mistake in that I shouldnt trust that the Tesla people know what they are talking about, a lesson I learned all of last year sadly. Fool me once shame on me... but now at least i know. hilariously, since i updated my...

Thanks - I just looked up this *sugar* on wayback machine in Feb 2021 it was 6 months, in may 3 months and oct 30 days. man they really changed that *sugar* this year, no wonder the clueless SAs had no idea

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 /End discussion Maybe they changed it without telling anyone because they knew customers would get wind of the Ryzen chips and this was the only way to force them to take a lesser product? This is anti consumer behavior.

not joking... can you help me find the order agreement on the tesla website. where i would be able to "read the contract" before they take my money? I am having a hard time finding it.

"without having read the contract" you mean the contract that changes without notice, that their own employees have never read and are clearly not aware of? Give me a break. I used to think Tesla's changes on the fly were good, but lately it seems more to protect themselves for any costs and...

Well yeah you have to you live in los angeles. no one is going to blame you for that. who wants to sit in 12 hour traffic tryin to get to the grocery store. you guys really derailed the *sugar* out of this thread.

We shouldnt be friends with @uthatcher they drive a gas guzzler. i demand a ban on this imposter!

you drive a gas guzzlin bronco and ur on here tryin to tell me IM A PEASANT? youre not even apart of the mission to save humanity, bro.

I actually prefer the engine start stop feature where the piece of *sugar* turns off every time you put your foot on the brake and then abruptly starts when you move the wheel at all. whoever invented that horseshit should be in prison.

And I can still pump gas! Imagine, filling your car with flammable gas and then spilling it all over yourself and you clumsily place the pump back in the holder. You peasants plug your *sugar* in at home every night!

But it doesn't do 0-60 "in 1.99 seconds, where literally no one can legally do that as equipped anyway" though.... It probably would be in the shop a lot less.

Apparently, neither has anyone who works at Tesla. Looking pretty sweet right now... 2022 Civic Sedan – Sporty Design | Honda

What mine says: "For new vehicles, if you do not take delivery within three (3) months of our first attempt to notify you, Tesla may cancel your order and keep your Order Fee." "Notify you" meaning "VIN"

It says 30 days from when they contact you for a delivery... which I read as 30 days from VIN assignment.

I just looked at 3 order agreements (one from 2019) and you are correct: From 2019: No policy stated From Model S (Jan 2021): 3 months from VIN From Model 3 (Mid-Oct-ish): 30 days from VIN. Amazing. Point A) Tesla's own people have no clue - this policy is not stated publicly and you only know...

Got it - thanks for that. I looked at my Model S order, as my Model 3 order agreement isnt available anymore. I see there it says "3 months". Therefore a) Tesla employees dont know their own *sugar* and b) my Model 3 order was cancelled in violation of their own policy. Now I have some calling to do.

Fine - but only if you agree to sign up for Teslaholics Anonymous. I love ya bro, but hot tamale!

Exactly - they make the policy. If they don't want people having a 6 month hold then they should make it clear: you get x days to hold from first VIN or whatever. The mistake is on their end, not the customers. I never asked "hey can you hold this for 6 months" I asked "what are my options if Im...

Huh? What? You're going way too broad. Tesla's policy according to their SAs is that you get 6 months to delay an order from the first VIN. AFAIK it has been like that forever. I was told this BEFORE I ordered *sugar* and only ordered *sugar* assuming that their own stated policy would, well, be the...

Fair points, BUT: Tesla changing policy to make their Q4 numbers look better because they know people would delay is BS. When I ordered my Model 3, I spoke to my SA about it being a backup plan if the Model S not working out or what have you. He said you get 6 months from the first VIN so that...

Nah, it's so much more fair to sell two different cars to different people at the same time for the same price and if one wants to wait for the updates you just tell them to **** themselves, have them reorder and steal another $250 from em.

They cancelled mine straight up. I'm glad they did. I would have been so pissed had they delivered me a car with the old processor while others were getting a new one - for the same price.

😂 Probably

More and more, I think the new *sugar* comes out in very late March/April. I bet for any of us with a hold, Tesla calls us up next month and tells us either take the car or forget it. In which case, I'll tell them forget it. Sorry - you've already agreed to allow the car to be on hold to a...

Definitely. Would also help to see them on lol

Yeah it looks like a lazy design.

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Yikes. What's wrong with it?

They need to have the black bar for each car. It looks weird as hell being body colored. The website literally shows ambient lights in the car. They were originally advertised and then removed, supposedly due to the chip shortage. Someone posted somewhere on here a few months ago what the...

Hopefully new headlights, taillights, Horn in the center of the yoke, and if we are really lucky, ambient lighting. But no one has mentioned that at all yet. :( They are probably saving that and the tilting screen for the Q2 or Q3 updates.

EDIT: glad to see the new taillights line up correctly. Going to have to wait 3 more months to take delivery so they can fix that too. This reminds me of the people who saw the be model s and only took like one pic. Take more pixxx! Plz! They should keep the black bar there though. It looks a...

WAG: When you roll the windows down, the speakers pick up even more noise and turn up the ARNR cancellation frequency. Extremely disappointing. This was one of the top 3 features I was looking forward to the most and I reckon I'd throw it on the pile of automatic *sugar* that will never work...

The new taillights can't come soon enough. LOL

Congrats Paul! Let us know how the buzzing yoke goes. Curious what Tesla says about that. Also, there's no gas pedal no more, baby!!!!

You know he owns that website, right?

I saw what you said. I dare you!

What gave it away? 😂 But you made me think... With the little plaid badge it could represent first overseas deliveries like they did here. Could also mean all new model s with the new lights go overseas first and we won't see new ones here for a couple of months.

If pass, vibrate door trim then force glass Explains the window seals

Yeah the window seals are messed up on all of them. Bad design. I go and check every couple of weeks at my local delivery center and every single one had issues. I tell the people every time I'm there and they DGAF lol

@WilliamG - are you buying ANOTHER one?!

Maybe model year changes where they have time to announce things and make sure they work correctly before launching them would be the right move then. Tesla is terrible at customer service and communication there's no way around that as most learned here last year lol. Either you deal with it...

Here it comes, asshole?

But in the case of the Ryzen, correct me if I am wrong... There's no way anyone would know if you didn't come here, Reddit or Twitter. To say, there's never been any release on that, at all. Why? That's not right. The answer includes my point - customers would want the better tech for the same...

Here's what they should do: Determine how many more current vehicles they can make with the current *sugar*. Take orders to fill up that allotment, make an announcement that some new *sugar* is coming and switch over. That way at least people are aware and informed of what they are buying. And if...

But that's bullshit. We aren't talking about me buying a car and getting the same thing everyone else and a month later it's a lot better. We are talking about a company selling two different products, called the same thing, charging the same price, not even informing customers that it is...

Tesla needs a stable minded COO to run service/manufacturing/customer service. too much anti consumer behavior by Tesla lately.

Then they shouldn't have ****ing made em! What pisses me off about Tesla is they make two products and sell it for the same price and don't tell anyone. For example: the Model 3/Y randomly getting a Ryzen chip/new 12v battery. Some got this, most didn't, all paid the same price. What the ****?

Tesla purposely ambiguously rolls *sugar* out to screw their customers