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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Not exactly true. Dimwits and the rest of us must all pass a written test and a practical test, just like us pilots. And the cars need licenses and must meet numerous regulations as well. Heck, even the blinkers must have adequate fluid supplies. ;-) As a pilot progresses from private to...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Interesting. I got the Loud Red Hands only once, but like you just as I entered the freeway.
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    The problem is that "safety related" is so broad as to be meaningless. For example, a system which successfully improves safety is "safety related", but does it need a response? NHTSA is not measuring the safety of these systems. They are instead responding to incidents and complaints. Until...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Good question. Perhaps other issues have higher priority and the V11 highway stack is good enough to be a bit lower on the list. Speaking of merging, maybe they will add highways to v12 before they re-merge FSD with the production branch. If we wanted yet another incorrect guess, we could...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Link: "Given the total number of fatal car crashes in 2022 (42,795), the U.S. average fatal crash rate is nearly 16 deaths per 100,000 vehicles." That would mean that the 2,000,000 recalled Teslas, if average, would have around 320 fatalities per year, or ~80 since the December recall. NHTSA...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Speed limit 55 might be interpreted by some as an endorsement of that as a safe speed. So maybe they don't really want people to speed up to 55 on such a twisty road. Or, maybe, back when they were making the specs for these signs, there was talk about changing the default speed, which would...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I did understand that. As I said, I was kidding about taking 38 literally. I was just joking about Auto Speeding being like a Thelma and Louise mode. I scrolled up to 55, mostly, and the car slowed down very nicely for the turns. I assume it would do the same on Auto Speed, but I didn't try...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    TeslaFi says there are over 6,000 on 12.3.6, and only 600 on 12.3.4 plus a few smaller number on earlier 12 variants. There are still nearly 1,000 on the 2023.44.30.x 11.4.9 versions, and I wonder why. Perhaps not ready to chance version 12? I am curious about the "free trial" folks. Did...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    At 38 mph through the hairpin turns and cliffs over the ocean, well, lets just say I would probably have been unable to post the story. I'm kidding, of course. I assume the automatic speed setting would not cause redwood tree collisions or attempted cliff launches, but that road is not a great...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    About speed limit sign reading, it does not read (or interperet) signs like "End of 25 Speed Limit". We drove from Santa Rosa, out to Jenner, and up to Gualala via the twisty-turny Hwy 1. Through Jenner the speed signs say 25, which FSD read and obeyed. (Auto Speed Setting is off.)...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    How soon you get an update also depends, of course, on how fast Tesla rolls it out. 12.3.6 has been a very quick one, over 5,000 shown on TeslaFi only 3 days after the first ones. My assumption is that once a selected few get a new release, the rest of us are selected at random.
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    FSD 12.3.6 Short first drive. Quite similar to 12.3.4. Still stops too far back from stop sign. Still waits too long at a stop when no one is coming. Seems to decide quickly to go or no-go if it does see a crossing car, and to take longer when no crossing traffic is visible. One possible...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Your lack of caring and your chuckle might be your gummy talking. ;-)
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    Vendor My Tesla Remote - A 3rd party remote that doesn't ask for your credentials

    Regarding the background walk-up-unlock feature, this may be a hint about the difficulty in the implementation: Watch for Tesla claims to have this, but deep in their FAQ they say "Background Bluetooth support for passive entry on the Apple Watch requires a series 6+ watch and watchOS 9+."...
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    Vendor My Tesla Remote - A 3rd party remote that doesn't ask for your credentials

    Don't want Auto Unlock, but would like unlock by a button on the watch. Watch is older series 3. Will this work? The use case is my wife sometimes wants to leave her purse (w/iPhone and wallet incl key card) in the car. (Not wise, we know, especially here in Oakland, Calif.) I keep my...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    In 2022, PG&E's Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant produced around 18,000 GWh of power. The problem with nucs is that they are not able to throttle down when they are not needed, such as during peak solar production. Trying to throttle down is what blew up Chernobyl, and also what melted...
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    Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

    At least they don't require your car to report violations. Yet. (I call that RoboCop mode, as opposed to Robotaxi mode.) ;-) Or, as my dad used to say, cheer up, things could be worse. So I cheered up and sure enough, things got worse.
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Make Minimal Lane Changes setting in the menu the persistent default, not reset defat to no for each drive.
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    In a similar situation, for me FSD saw the other car moving into the lane we were moving into, and swerved back into it's original lane. In your case, if the other guy was also on FSD, I bet FSD would have steered your both away, back to where you started. But trying that is something for a...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Scary story. Cool that FSD hit the brakes in time in spite of the poor traction. We had a scenario wich had me wishing FSD would get a closer to the car ahead: We were a few cars back from a red light in our direction, and FSD stopped a bit far back from the car ahead. Then, a car coming the...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Yes. This unapproved FSD enabling has been reported here by a couple others, including me. In those profile, if you disable and re-enable FSD, it does require the confirmation. Rather than FSDS I guess it is SEFSD, Self Enabled Full Self Driving. Cleary a bug. I expect the Tesla legal...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Highway 85 is a freeway, and V11 is active there, not V12. Highway 17 is also designated by FSD as freeway, except between Scotts Valley and Los Gatos, at least the last time I drove it, so it FSD switches to V11 on much of 17 as well.
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    FSD Unchained?
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    https://support.google.com/maps/answer/3094088?hl=en Out only = one way. I succeeded with a report on a one-way parking lot, so give it try!
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Accepted. Yes, I recognized that "My sweet summer child..." suggested naivetë. Hence my ironic (anachronistic) retort. In case anyone is confused, I do agree that voluntary "crowd sourced" mapping is a non-starter. There be dragons, so to speak. Curated corrections are a different matter...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Ah! I did "Start", but a stop sign did not appear till I was already there, and I was checking for cross traffic rather than staring at google's map. But.... A bit farther down the road, Tesla was showing a sign which Google was did not show. Google was right in this case, as the stop sign...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Quick report: FSD 12.3.4 (2024.3.15) installed. Vanilla car: 1021 MY, white, USS, Radar. On a quick drive it seems just like 4.3.3. It still stops too far back from stop sign and light limit line. It still failed on a short merge onto the freeway and took the exit instead. (This is before...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Sue, Google maps are not crowd sourced. For example, they use commercial satellite data for their Sat views, and drive their own vehicles around to capture their street views. One would expect those cars also ground-truth their base maps as well. Much of the base maps is from publicly...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I just let google maps navigate using iPhone, and the stop signs in question were not displayed. At the same time, Tesla's nav map showed the stop signs on the same route. My understand, from posts here on TMC is that Tesla combines data from at least two map sources for their navigation...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I sent a correction to Google Maps about a road what was one-way, and routing would take me to the wrong end. About a week later, it routed correctly. More recently, I sent one where Tesla would take the middle of two lanes, where the lane divider paint had worn off. I told Google it was two...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I expected Tesla to use V12 for the free trial, but HellsKitchen's case sounded like a counter example. Or maybe his is a paid subscription? In which case he joined the ranks of V11.4.9 folks who are still not yet offered V12. Perhaps the recently reported 12.3.4 might help some, but if that...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    HellsKitchen on 4/2 reported that while on 2024.8.7 he signed up for the free trial and FSD 11.4.9 was enabled. A couple of posts later he confirmed he was on 2024.8.7. Like I wrote, "someone reported..." I noticed only that one report, so these question certainly deserves confirmation: Do...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    re. RSD rollouts: It appears that 2024.3.x (12.3.x) has stopped rolling out with around 6,000 installed plus pending on TeslaFi, while there are still around 2,000 still on 2023.44.x (11.4.9). (Only a few 2023.44.30+ on V12.x are still left) Meanwhile, 2024.8.x versions have installed plus...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Uh, not exactly. California is, uh, different. In many ways, including speed limits. Some would call California "special" in the SNL sense. California law calls posted speed limits "pima facia". But Calif's "basic speed" says you can't drive faster than is "reasonable and prudent". I call...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Ah! Finally a real life use-case for Robo Taxi! I am skeptical about the market for RT, and I don't imagine us letting our car go out and offer rides to drunk college students. Airport parking, having wine with a dinner out, medical emergencies, these seem like real but infrequent...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    More than a bit odd, I think! My wife's profile had FSD turned on with out the waivers. This morining I checked a couple other profile we have on the car. One was like mine, but without FSD so I could easily switch during testing. That profile now had FSD enabled without the waiver. In...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I am a long term FSD tester, 12.3.3 at this point, fully paid up when we bought in 2020. My wife, however, is not yet ready for FSD, so in her profile she never selected FSD. She often single pulls for TACC because that is what she is comfortable with. Untill today. She single pulled and...
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    Netzero App

    Looks OK to me this evening. Haven't tried logging out and back in.
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Back before they merged freeways into FSD, on CA 17 between Santa Cruz and San Jose, it would switch between FSD and standard AutoPilot. As we understand it, V12 switches to th V11 stack on freeways. If the same map data is still used, this would suggest that Hwy 17 uses V11 or 12 at various...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Thelma and Louise mode?
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    Netzero App

    offandonagain, Thank you, for this Great app! I especially like that you have both web and iPhone versions. (Why doesn't Tesla do that for their own app?) I've been using an old TeslaPy script on my Mac to automate PW, but the savings are just about washed out by the cost of leaving the Mac...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    FSD v12 fails on a short freeway onramp. This is before V12 switches to V11 for freeway. Perhaps not a safety issue, but it fails to stay on the planned route. I finaly tried this with Auto Speed limit enables so that the display would show Auto until FSD switched from V12 to V11 code. This...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Just confirming the above, I am currently on 12.3.1 and our MY just downloaded 2024.3.10, i.e. 12.3.3. I've still got a couple of tests to try on 12.3.1 before I install and check out .3.3 . Ramphex, there may be hope for you yet.
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    Where's solar charging gone?

    The settings are stored on Tesla's servers, so when you log back in, it will look the same except, we hope, for the CoS invitation. I can't comment on export rates, as I am in Calif on a modified NEM rate, and where pence refers to a (fortunately surviving) former Vice President. ;-)
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Good work! How did you locate that intersection? I was a bit surprised that FSD would know that dedicated lane carve out in Calif law. I don't expect it is allowed in all states. It looks like you are correct, far easier to see from clear daylight satellite images than the rainy night...
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    Where's solar charging gone?

    My PW / Tesla Wall Connector with Charge on Solar may do the same thing. Today had intermitted clouds, and the solar was split between the PW and the car in varying degrees. I think this is due to the PW doing what it can to reach 100% charge before the rate increases at 3PM, at which time it...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    It looks like FSD did not run a red light, because the turn was into a lane dedicated for such turns, and such turns do not require stopping. From the Calif DMV Driver's Handbook: link Right Turn onto a Road with a Dedicated Lane A dedicated right turn lane does not merge into another lane and...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I also give a rip about the installed numbers. I'm also looking forward to 2024.3.6 (FSD 12.3.2.1). But of the 1,636 so far installed or pending, only 3 came from the same version as mine. That is 0.18% of the total came from my version. The good news is that this means some like mine are...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Don't worry, they save all of those emails in a massive WOM, with is techie speak for write only memory. ;-)
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    But, what if the data is released by Tesla? This links to data through Q4 2023. https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport