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    Tesla YANKED FSD option without notice - Class Action lawsuit? Any Lawyers here? [Resolved]

    Recording can't happen before a sale by definition. And recording is not "required" in most states. It's a matter of priority of competing interests. And the exact rules differ from state to state. Texas (and other states) have what are known as "notice" recording statutes, meaning whoever gets...
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    Tesla YANKED FSD option without notice - Class Action lawsuit? Any Lawyers here? [Resolved]

    Exactly. Legislation probably won't happen until there are far more EVs on the road and the other big players are in the market. But it will happen. And Tesla's one-sided positions on this stuff - that they can do whatever they want whenever they want - will probably cause it to happen sooner...
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    Tesla YANKED FSD option without notice - Class Action lawsuit? Any Lawyers here? [Resolved]

    Disclaimer: this is not legal advice but general opinion. Some of the legal issues seem straightforward, some more complicated. First, you may have a contractual claim against the 3rd party seller you purchased from based up the fact that the car had FSD when they sold it to you, unless your...
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    Why I recommend AGAINST buying a Tesla

    It's interesting to me that you feel the need to criticize other people's decision-making processes so vehemently, and that you seem so assured that your analyses are correct. My experience with people like you is that they're invariably insecure about their own choices and feel threatened by...
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    Why I recommend AGAINST buying a Tesla

    Let me get this straight, you base decisions on what happened in the past and ignore what you consider logical future risks? Feel free to ignore relevant information and “Bet TSLA” as you username makes clearly obvious that you do but don’t condescend to others.
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    Why I recommend AGAINST buying a Tesla

    Not saying anything remotely like what you describe. Plus not "angry" or "disgusted" in the least. Did you miss the part of my post where I said I've owned two Teslas and have enjoyed them both? I just made what I see is a rational decision to sell the Tesla with a year left on the four-year...
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    Why I recommend AGAINST buying a Tesla

    I went on what felt like a bit of a limb back in 2015 and bought a Model S P85D in the US. I was willing to buy a Tesla because its reputation up to that point was of a company that stood by its product. The overall experience with the P85D was fantastic – amazing car unlike anything I'd ever...
  8. M

    Tesla test drive - London Gatwick??

    I was told last week by an employee at the Tesla Brooklands location that the Gatwick location will be reopening in the "middle of 2020."
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    FS: 2017 Model S P100D Ludicrous - 6,203 Miles (UK)

    Just not using this car enough to justify keeping it. Car is located in England - West Sussex. 2017 Tesla Model S P100D Ludicrous (Registered March 29, 2017). 6,203 miles currently. Pearl White Glass Roof 21" Grey Turbine Wheels Ultra White Tesla Premium Seats (heated and cooled seats) Carbon...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    There has to be some amount of battery degradation caused by usage over a given time period that would legally be considered warrantable. Could Tesla sell a car with a battery that fully degraded in three years and it not be a warranty issue? Two years? One year? 6 months? 1 month? Some amount...
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    P100D Value Loss 70k in 1 year.

    This is what I posted in March when Tesla decided to drop prices massively in the UK. I'm still waiting for someone to show me a car in this price range that lost close to 40% in one week! I could be wrong, but I would say this has to be the largest overnight price drop in automotive history...
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    Model S to the Nürburgring Next Week!

    So we're talking about a theoretical car that Tesla could build? I'm sure if Tesla decided to build a Taycan competitor they could do so, but right now there's no evidence it exists. And it's not just a matter of slapping giant brakes on an existing design. You've got lots of issues like...
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    Model S to the Nürburgring Next Week!

    As far as I know, a pre-Raven and post-Raven S share the same brakes. Those brakes are not up to the Ring - see this post: Model S to the Nürburgring Next Week! Porsche has solved this issue for the Taycan by putting massive ceramic rotors (bigger than a Porsche 918, a car that can run sub 7s at...
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    Model S to the Nürburgring Next Week!

    Even if the Model S is quicker around Laguna Seca, you can't then draw the conclusion that it will be quicker around the Ring. "3rd grade math" doesn't work here. Performance on the track over 2.2 miles cannot be extrapolated to performance over 13 miles, especially when comparing ICE to...
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    Model S to the Nürburgring Next Week!

    It doesn't have new brakes as far as I know, and the current brakes won't last one lap of the Ring. As busaman stated in post #275, his basically gave out. There's a reason Porsche fitted such massive brakes on the Taycan: Why Porsche Gave the Taycan Enormous Brakes
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    Model S to the Nürburgring Next Week!

    This is really helpful, thanks! Now we just need some real world track results to see how the Raven holds up.
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    Model S to the Nürburgring Next Week!

    If the rear motor is the same or very similar in both the P100D and the Raven, wouldn't the limitations be similar due to it being the weakest link? The front motor may be fine, but wouldn't the rear motor heat up in a similar fashion, thus effectively limiting overall performance at roughly the...
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    Model S to the Nürburgring Next Week!

    Is there? There are differences but has anyone really compared the two on track? There's not much difference at the drag strip, a couple of tenths in the quarter mile. They still have the same rear motor and same brakes (IMO the biggest weak point on track). The suspension is adaptable, but...
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    Model S to the Nürburgring Next Week!

    There is no way a stock Raven Model S will do sub 7:42 at the Ring, even assuming it can run a lap full steam without overheating the battery and/or motors. The brakes are just not up to it. And regen at the levels available now is basically irrelevant. You need massive brakes that can scrub...
  20. M

    Tesla Gatwick SC on Fire

    What's the status of the Gatwick/Crawley service center? It's showing on the Tesla map but it's greyed out. I heard a rumor that last week that it's shut permanently.
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    Speculation on Model S/X Pricing Strategy

    I'm guessing Tesla's offer of $46k wasn't in the last 5 days. The giant price drops on the S/X since Friday are going to affect used values all the way down the line. What was $46k a week ago will be $35k or less now. If you think that's bad, if someone took delivery of a fully loaded P100D in...
  22. M

    Categories of most screwed Tesla owners.

    The current winner has to be anyone who purchased a MS/X P100D in the last few weeks in the U.K. before the price drop in the last few days Price went down £45,000 overnight, roughly $71,000 US!
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    Speculation on Model S/X Pricing Strategy

    Unfortunately, I think you’re probably looking at a mid 30s value right now for your car. Tesla has a used 2014 + model for $46,000 on their website with mileage in the 30k range. That probably means it was traded in at a value in the mid 30s. You could go private party but then you’re competing...
  24. M

    Impact of February 28 Announcement on Current 100D Owners

    I wonder how long it will be until stealing/re-selling P100D badges is rampant!
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    Model S price drop in europe

    I could be wrong, but I would say this has to be the largest overnight price drop in automotive history. In the UK, if you picked up your brand new loaded MS P100DL last week you paid roughly £138k GBP. Now that car can be bought new for £95k GBP. Yours is now worth prob. £85k at best (there are...
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    Model S and X price and option changes in the UK

    Last time I checked prices was a few weeks ago when there was a small price drop. For a P100DL with 21" wheels/pearl white (no autopilot/self driving) it was roughly £136k IIRC. That same car is now £88,550. So a drop of about £47,000. Interesting that, if true, then a P100DL is now slightly...
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    Model S and X price and option changes in the UK

    The price drop on a P100D MS given the new online configurator price is the better part of £50,000, which seems ludicrous (pardon the pun). If it's not a mistake, Tesla's going to have to adjust the price of their new inventory models - they still have P100Ds listed in the £130k-£135k range...
  28. M

    Headlights always on in Auto

    I noticed the same thing - headlights rarely ever turn off even during the day. Raised the issue with the Gatwick Service Centre and the rep. said he'd never heard of this issue and sort of blew me off.
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    Unstable steering at speeds around 80 mph

    Same for my new P100D. The steering feel is just bizarre. Fine when driving slowly but get up to speed and there's a giant black hole of a dead spot from 11 to 1, with significant overboost. My previous P85D felt nothing like this. What has Tesla done? This issue honestly makes me want to get...
  30. M

    2015 Model S P85DL, 8,900 Miles, $87,500

    Sure, feel free to PM me.
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    2015 Model S P85DL, 8,900 Miles, $87,500

    I just sold the wheels separately so they are no longer included. But $85,000 is about as good of a deal as I've seen on a P85DL with this type of mileage. It just turned 9,000 miles!
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    2015 Model S P85DL, 8,900 Miles, $87,500

    I'll take $85,000 otherwise I'm going to sell this back to Tesla next week.
  33. M

    FS: Brand New Set of 4 - 19" OEM Wheels and Tires (Houston Pickup Only)

    The original 19" - (not the slipstream or cyclone)
  34. M

    FS: Brand New Set of 4 - 19" OEM Wheels and Tires (Houston Pickup Only)

    Still have these and they need to go. Still brand new. $750 gets them. Houston local pickup only.
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    2015 Model S P85DL, 8,900 Miles, $87,500

    And one thing I forgot to mention - it came from the factory with LTE.
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    2015 Model S P85DL, 8,900 Miles, $87,500

    2015 Model S P85D with Ludicrous mode. Located in Houston, TX. $87,500. Solid black exterior and grey leather interior. It was manufactured in June of 2015 and has the autopilot hardware (but I have not activated it). Approx. 8,9xx miles currently. I am moving to England in a couple of months...
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    An Update to our Supercharging Program

    I think you misread the point of my post. I was responding to someone who suggested that very thing - barring anyone from supercharging within 100 miles from home. My point was that taking away the capability to supercharge was not a good idea.
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    An Update to our Supercharging Program

    That would not be a good idea, especially the "no supercharging access at all" bit. So you end up driving around more than you expect one day, realize you can't make it back home unless you supercharge, say 20 miles from home, and you are barred from doing so? So Tesla or someone else has to tow...
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    Fatal autopilot crash, NHTSA investigating...

    Very sad that this gentleman passed away. Sounds like a horrific accident. And it doesn't sound like there's any way at this point to say whether it was preventable either by action on the part of the driver or autopilot. Having said that, I have thought long and hard about whether I would use...
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    FS: Brand New Set of 4 - 19" OEM Wheels and Tires (Houston Pickup Only)

    Full set of 4 - 19" wheels with 4 - Michelin Primacy MXM4 245/45/19 tires. I ordered my P85D with this set and they were swapped out at the service center prior to deliver. So only delivery miles on this set and they are in perfect condition. No center caps but I believe they have the TPMS...
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    Pano roof or no?

    It's personal preference but I decided against it when I configured my P85D. Here are my thoughts: - Extra weight, to the tune of several hundred lbs in the absolute worst place to add it. Coming from M series BMWs as my daily drivers, I just can't wrap my head around this - the car is heavy...
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    P85D front motor vibration issue

    So my P85D (June 2015 build) has started doing this - occasional minor vibration/pulse coming through the steering wheel at low speeds and a bit of a groan as well. My service center says it is normal for dual motor cars with 21" wheels. I'm not buying it - the car didn't do this when I first...
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    Ludicrous Upgrade Scheduling?

    I'm in Houston and received a call yesterday from one of the two service centers here (forgot to ask which one but when I signed up I selected the new North Houston center). The rep. stated the the parts for my upgrade have been ordered and he'd give me a call back to schedule an appointment...
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    A Plea from an Old Guy - Larger FONTS!

    Agree 100%. My car has autopilot hardware but I don't have autopilot enabled. So I now have a giant area right in front of my vision that contains no useful information - everything is pushed to the edges. The speedo is at the top and now mostly hidden by the steering wheel. The power meter (to...
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    Not seeing tire pressure app in 7.0

    Unless I'm missing something, the tire pressure data is not accessible on the 17" screen. Maybe this is coming in 7.1? It would be more convenient to check it there than have to use the steering wheel buttons to scroll and replace the dash widget every time you want to view it.
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    v7 firmware with autopilot and new UI first impressions

    It's gone in its current form. They've mashed it together with the energy display into one graphic that cannot be centered in the display. That's fine for ancillary displays such as the trip meter and the old energy usage graphic but the power meter is something I want front and center...
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    v7 firmware with autopilot and new UI first impressions

    Agree 100%. Why put a critical piece of information so high in the display? I have to crane my neck to see it. How could this make it past the 1st round of alpha testing? Frankly IMHO this is a terrible step backward. Just awful all the way round (except for the 17" screen updates). I have a...
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    Just Got Rear Ended- Need Some Advice

    I've bought and sold several exotics. Had to replace a front bumper cover on a $350,000 Ferrari. Later sold it with no problem and no hit - fully disclosed the bumper repair. Everyone who knows anything in the car business understands that replacing a bumper cover is no big deal assuming it is...