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    Aftermarket things

    Either carbon fiber or just restain the wood with black/dark gray.
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    Nifty tool for calculating your monthly Model 3 payments

    It looks like your tool is subtracting tax credits from the price of the car as if they are instant rebates. Is that the case? Because you don't get any tax credits or rebates until months after you purchase your car. They should not be part of the calculation.
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    Poll: Aero covers - will you use them?

    I think they look good on the dark colors like black, gray, and blue. I'm planning on going with a blue model 3. I might look into getting the covers painted satin black though.
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    No Vented / Air Conditioned Seat Option

    Tore on the part you sit on, or on the back rest?
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    No Vented / Air Conditioned Seat Option

    I've owned cars with perforated and cars with solid leather seats. Perforation works, even if not forced-air-ventilated. Perforated seats are like perforated paper though, easier to tear. I had a Toyota where the perforated leather tore on the lower part of the seat after 12 years, but I...
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    Initial 75 kwh? Don't think so.

    I think the Model 3 will only be available in 2 battery configs, an entry level and an upgraded level. Initially that means 75KWH as Elon stated was the largest they could fit at this time, and some smaller size. The reason is that this car is intentionally being manufactured with as few...
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    Acceleration Different With Upgraded Battery?

    So are you saying that in the Model S the different 0-60MPH times are basically a matter of physics rather than a conscious decision on the part of Tesla?
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    Acceleration Different With Upgraded Battery?

    In the Model S, the larger battery configurations have faster 0-60MPH times. Is there any reason to believe this won't also be the case with the Model 3? Low 5s or high 4s 0-60MPH with a 75KWH battery would be great.
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    If you had a choice: Acceleration or Distance?

    Without both range and acceleration, I would not buy any car. If all I wanted was range, I would have bought a Volt since it has an ICE backup to cover long trips. Or the Bolt... I think that's the newest slow ugly American electric car with decent range? However, that thing is slower than...
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    Please chime in if in agreement so that AP is not disabled...

    Too bad so sad if they can't figure it out isn't really a solution, and it's bad business. The first rule of product design is don't make the customer think. Besides that, the extent to which Tesla makes AP idiotproof covers their ass against lawsuits.
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    Autopilot Options

    Safer per miles driven. But exactly correct, the point was that speed alone does not equate to safety.
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    Autopilot Options

    The Autobahn in on average safer than the United States interstate highway system.
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    Please chime in if in agreement so that AP is not disabled...

    They need to stop calling it "autopilot," as this is not its stated intent at this stage of development. It's more like cruise control with experimental attempts at braking and steering. If it's included free, I might try it as a gimmick. Other than that, I enjoy hands-on driving and would...
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    Vegan option?

    I agree. Clubbing would mar the leather surface, but that would hopefully be covered by warranty anyway. JK. Vegan option all the way.
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    New Supercharger expansion model?

    You wouldn't take your cell phone to a charging station to charge it. Same goes for an electric car with 1+ day's worth of range. You charge these things nightly at home. Superchargers are for long trips AWAY from home. Having a supercharger station near your home is literally pointless...
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    Vegan option?

    I never thought about it in that way. I just figured the holes allowed more air to circulate behind me. I guess the backs of the rear seats would have ventilated into the trunk area if you think of it that way though.
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    Vegan option?

    It's possible that this is true. Now that I think of it, only the front seats were perforated. The back seats were solid, maybe because it's a more common seating place for kids? Cup holders pretty much eliminate drink spills for adults.
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    Vegan option?

    I want the vegan interior. I had a 2003 Toyota with leather front seats and synthetic leather rear seats. I had the car for 12 years, and the front seats (even the passenger seat which was hardly used) were in poor condition when I got rid of the car. The rear seats literally looked and felt...
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    Trunk opening photos

    The interior size of the trunk looks nice. However, the issue with trunks like this is the size of the opening. Hopefully they can make it large enough to load in large things like picnic coolers, large consumer electronics in their box, etc.
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    Service policy

    I'm getting mixed signals from Tesla regarding maintenance of their cars. On one hand they say how little maintenance is required due to the lack of ICE. On the other hand, they sell expensive maintenance packages that cover regular maintenance. WTF?
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    Model 3 color picker

    This color please: Model ≡ ColorS
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    Possible hidden costs

    Probably has something to do with Tesla's hype that this car was going to be affordable for the masses. There is some wiggle room with that definition, but there is also a fairly well understood picture of such a car in the minds of "the masses." $35k already pushes that envelope. Also, cars...
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    What will Battery upgrades cost on Model 3?

    Now that I think of it, most gas-powered cars already get about 350 miles per tank without having to upgrade anything at thousands of dollars of expense. This car is starting to look like a money pit after all... the exact opposite of what it was envisioned to be.
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    What will Battery upgrades cost on Model 3?

    I have no idea about the costs involved, but as a consumer of a $35k car I wouldn't expect the larger battery to add more than a couple thousand dollars to get me to 300 miles of range.
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    Possible hidden costs

    I would not look fondly on Tesla should they decide to nickle and dime customers. If they were to start looking like that type of company (which they don't right now), I would likely rethink my reservation. A vehicle purchase is a long-term thing for most people, and $40k is also not cheap for...
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    Is HUD a bad idea?

    Since it seems Tesla is all about the upgrades, I think you might be right that any HUD would be an additional cost item.
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    Must-have Aftermarket Accessories

    Does anyone offer customization of the infotainment system or the car's performance/drive systems?
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    Are we insane?

    I apologize. I didn't realize those were the only choices. I must have overlooked that. Then again, I obviously don't posses the logical prowess that you do. Pick ONE: A) Murder people B) Autonomous-only "driving"
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    Must-have Aftermarket Accessories

    Sorry, there will be a hefty upgrade charge for any color other than "Cargo Van White," and only signature models will be able to select from colors besides upgrade-black and upgrade-silver ;)
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    Are we insane?

    Exhibit A ---^ I rest my case :)
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    Are we insane?

    Be careful what you wish for with autonomous vehicles. If there is one thing I've noticed over the years, it's that there is a trend toward less and less freedom in the name of safety. In the future I can see the success of autonomous driving being used as a hammer to limit our ability to...
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    Must-have Aftermarket Accessories

    I like it. Similar to the Laguna Seca Blue that's on my E46 BMW M3. Tesla really needs to get on board with interesting color options. Almost every color option for the Model S is a complete snooze fest.
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    Fiat can do it in 12!

    We don't really need them on board at all. I'm sure Tesla would be happy to be the sole beneficiary of EV sales as EVs gain in popularity and push out Gas-powered cars in the future. I think Elon has already achieved his goal because Tesla's EVs are already highly desired by the masses. It's...
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    Must-have Aftermarket Accessories

    I would like a stock-looking flux capacitor, and a spaceship sound effects application triggered by all vehicle functions (startup, power down, acceleration, breaking, coasting, stopping, HVAC, door open/close, etc.). Do you have an exterior pic of that blue car?
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    Fiat can do it in 12!

    So basically that CEO is short-sighted and not able to come up with his own ideas/plans. Either that or he is just talking trash. Typical obsolete car manufacturer mentality. I really don't see any of the traditional car makers wholeheartedly trying to compete with Tesla. They just aren't...
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    Lease vs. Cash

    True about the autopilot. That seems like the most obvious place where large improvements could take place. I'm not interested in autopilot right now though, and I enjoy driving (that's why i was never interested in the boring EVs that came before Tesla). Maybe when I have kids, autopilot...
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    Lease vs. Cash

    Does anyone think that the technology in the Model3 will progress at such a high rate that purchasing the next gen Model 3 in a few years will be hard to pass up? I mean things like huge increases in range (400+ miles on a charge), huge decreases in charging times (10 minutes or less to fully...
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    Average age?

    I think the opposite will prove to be true. Some younger folks might have $1000 lying around for an impulse buy on a refundable reservation, but won't be able to go through with the payments on a $35k+ (plus taxes and delivery charges) vehicle.
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    No sound, no soul?

    I agree. They should definitely pipe in artificial "engine" noise like all the other car manufacturers are doing now (BMW, Mini, etc.). Only, it should be spaceship related sounds, since Elon said the steering controls will be like a spaceship. We especially need a lightspeed/hyperspace jump...
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    Your Ideal Model 3 Color Configuration

    I second the notion that I hope they don't only offer only the Model S color choices for the Model 3. From day 1, I noticed how BORING those color choices were. If I wanted an inconspicuous electric car, I would have gotten the Chevy Volt or Bolt.
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    Wiki Model 3 Reservation Tally

    I think that's about it. There might be a slight bump after the 2nd announcement, but nothing like the initial reservation numbers. Then you have to subtract those who drop out before purchasing.
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    Would You Prefer A Solid Roof?

    I see. Well it really depends on the price then. I want sunroof-style functionality, but it's going to take a back seat to things like larger battery and possibly all wheel drive if it makes the car faster. I can't drive a slow car, and (hate to tell Elon) 6 seconds to 60MPH is still slow...
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    Would You Prefer A Solid Roof?

    Does the glass roof open at all like a sunroof? Would the metal roof offer a sunroof? I have enjoyed having a sunroof on all my past cars.
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    What kinds of problems can we expect?

    Spontaneous human combustion.
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    Tax Credit Clarification

    If you make too much to qualify for the tax credit, does your sale still count toward the 200,000 sales for the phaseout? Lol, so many details.
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    Is Tesla Moving Us Closer to Orwell's 1984?

    Yes, sorry. It was sort of a cynical poll ;) Hmmm I never thought of that ... "Autonomous Only" roadways where human drivers are prohibited, ushered in under the pretense of human drivers being too dangerous compared to bots. On the positive side, certainly most public transit could be...
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    Is Tesla Moving Us Closer to Orwell's 1984?

    I can see a trajectory toward some undesirable side-effects with what Tesla seems to have in mind. Autonomous driving as an option --> Manual driving as an option --> Manual driving not possible (Autonomous only) Autonomous driving --> Driverless Uber/Taxis --> Car ownership obsolete -->...
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    Will Model 3 & Chevy Bolt Be The 1-2 Punch That Kills Fuel Cell Vehicles

    The end for hydrogen AND gasoline cars will be when battery EVs can be recharged in the same or less time than filling a gas tank *and* when gas stations start converting to battery charging stations.
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    Info and Hints from Elon Tweets

    I think we have the same idea on the actual material performance. Leather is not as durable as a high-quality cloth seat, and leather requires the most upkeep. I think faux leather is just as durable as cloth, but at the same time it's more resilient to abuse. Short wiry dog hair is like...