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I am glad I am not the only one feeling how Tesla service is becoming a joke. I guess this is what happens once the company is pressured with profit driven and mass production.

Just an update that I do have FSD after upgrades. I don't have to pay $199/mo. subscription. Service in Dedham lied. Full Self Driving Capabilities on the dashboard means Full Self Driving. Bunch of idiots & crooks with their bromance running the center. They think customers are retards and...

Just an update that I do have FSD after upgrades. Service in Dedham lied. Full Self Driving Capabilities on the dashboard means Full Self Driving. Bunch of idiots & crooks with their bromance running the center. They think customers are retards and probably think they can get away. I will never...

Yes, I see what you mean now.

Haha, that is true. So to survive in today's market, I guess you can't be nice anymore. Sad world. Yes, the service is all over the place when it comes to parts arrival and pricing etc. They really are hit and miss. They insist I don't have FSD but car and app shows I have FSD. It is very...

Back when I was big Tesla fan, I thought some owners were overreacting when they criticized Tesla. Now I can put myself in their positions. My initial experience was luckily good. I remember when I got my first Model S 2016, they gave me many goodies. Also they set up a nice tables, nice...

I talked with them over the phone for over 1 hour, nothing resolved. They keep saying I only have enhanced autopilot on my Model X. Two possibilities: 1. Original owner probably paid FSD package $3,000 AFTER THE DELIVERY (back then after purchasing $5,000 EA) but somehow Tesla didn't/couldn't...

My Model S has same Full Self Driving Capability, and the service guy in the Dedham, MA center said Model S has full self driving, but model X doesn't. But on the front screen, both cars have "Full Self Driving Capability Package Included" on the main screen. Also on my myTesla app, I also...

But don't I need infotainment upgrade to use HW3.0? Will it still work on old MCU?

Right? But I argued with service members for 30 min. and they kept insisting I don't have FSD and need to pay for the monthly $199/mo. It was going nowhere and I just left.

You are right. It is $199/mo., which is ridiculous when I supposedly have it already.

That's helpful. Thank you. I didn't know about FSD beta program and will try to ask for it tomorrow. I will see how they will say it. Actually, I am in my other home in MA (which I am in now), and I agree that autopilot feature is not very smooth.

One more thing. If you look at the screenshot I uploaded, even if I try to upgrade, I cannot even upgrade. Not even in the subscription page. They said I have to pay $199/yr. but it doesn't show up on myTesla app.

I went to the Tesla service center today, and they keep insisting I don't have Full Self Driving. Their argument is that my car is "capable" to get it upgraded with infotainment to HW 3.0 BUT they keep insisting I have to pay monthly or yearly subscription. The Tesla service center also said...

And what is more insane is that Ludicrous Mode is not even announced yet for Model 3 Performance. I changed my vote from 2.8-2.99 to 2.79 or below.

By the way, the thread was made when Tesla advertised Model 3 Performance 0-60 for 3.5 seconds. Such a huge upgrade in short time. Tesla is too modest to still advertise it as 3.2 on their homepage.

Just saw a recent update that Model 3 Performance now achieves under 3.0. I knew from the beginning it would drop down below 3.0 seconds for 0-60mph! More reason to stay with Tesla for future vehicles. I don't doubt it can further reach 2.8s or even lower for its full potential.

I now have 259 miles for 90% charge. This is becoming worse. In one year of ownership, I lost 20 miles of capacity already.

Same here. I got Model 3 September last year (1 year of ownership) and the mileage capacity decreased from 279 miles (90%) to 265 miles (90%). I lost 14 miles already. Even for Model S and X, it was not that bad.

I do agree that the glass roof (w/o sunroof) looks better when I seat in the back. I can see the sky better without the middle bar. But I don't seat in the back and it's not like someone is driving it for me. 99.9%+ I am the sole driver of the car and the view is almost useless for some of...

Count me in. I will even go $5,000 if it becomes an option.

True. But with the FUSC back, Model S sale is dropping now for certain. Simply bringing pano roof back should enhance the sales. I remember the data before that almost 80% of the Model S owners chose to get pano roof. That number tells something. It's not like Tesla has to start from...

Awesome vehicle, but the wheels ruined the beauty!!

With Tesla, you should be patient. Don't be afraid of the price increase, because in the long run, it is opposite. Learned the hard way with Model 3 Performance, especially. Bought it when the base price was 70,500. Now the base is 54,990. And I don't think I need to mention about people...

Seriously, with Tesla keep bring it back and taking away the pricing, this is getting old. I am so used to it that I am not at all scare of the price increase on 8/16 because I know for certain they will bring it back again with similar deal (or much better) in the future. I was tricked by the...

Yup, same with color options and Panoramic Roof. Not sure if Pano roof will really come back but I think more color options will be available when sales get bad or not much newer feature can be shown. They take away and bring them back and repeat ad infinitum to bring back sales up. Not...

Maybe it's time Tesla brings the new flagship model above Model S. Or maybe this is their big picture as the Model S and X price is getting lower. If this is their plan, then the current Model S doesn't need to be drastically different. It still well competes with 5 series or E class. Not so...

Exactly what I was gonna say. If exterior redesign will take several years down the road and cost them a lot, then bringing colors and pano roof will trigger many people to upgrade. Simple solution.

In addtion to FUSC now available, only if they bring back the panoramic roof/sunroof option again...

I use sunroof a lot, too and I second that I have never had any issues so far for almost 3 years.

Interesting. I remember seeing a data table before that when it was an option, whether people liked it or not, something like 76% chose to buy it for $1500~$2000 more. At least having an option will not hurt than regret.

Thanks. Just fixed it. Still awesome range for 345 miles. That's like 300 miles of driving comfortably in one charge. Plenty enough, less time in charging.

I love the Model S and the current Raven with 345 Miles and Performance at $99K seems a good deal. I would love to turn in S75D from 2016 and purchase Model S despite there is no change in exterior , even with small tax credit $1875. I have been waiting for the refresh but I don't feel it's...

Hmm. Another food for thought. What if the existing owners request to remove the ludicrous mode if they still honor it? $79,990 for Performance without Ludicrous Mode... :D I mean 0-60 for 3.0 second is plenty fast for the majority of population.

Yeah, if it is true, this is a steal. $79,990 Performance Ludicrous with 345 Miles of Range. Oh my... One can dream.

That's what I think. But it's so funny if Tesla pulls that. On announcement, it said Tesla values the existing customers and give the Free Ludicrous at no additonal cost. And if it is same for everyone (which I have no problem with), then Tesla is again switching its own words.

The price structure is Long Range and Performance with Ludicrous mode only. Will the existing owners still get $20K discount? My guess is that it does not. But it would be awesome if it does.

Good to know this is still on.

As far as I know, I heard that they cannot get the free Ludicrous upgrade if they did not get the car from the customzing screen (brand new) car in the first place, or possibly "new" inventory car. I saw numerous posts where "used" Teslas owners (the buyer being the 2nd owner to that used car)...

Maybe I am a little late, but couldn't find the similar posts in the search. Congrats TMC, 1M posts! When I lurked this forum years ago, I remember it was far less than 200K posts in Model S section. More proofs that Teslas are becoming more mainstream and popular today. The odds of not...

I could be wrong but from what I have read so far, used cars even through Teslas are not eligible for Free Ludi upgrade. I think I also saw from Elektrek comment that someone who bought 75D new could not get the free ludi upgrade. Not sure about the authenticity of those comments but you...

I will try that as I don't even get the email reply anymore. They did say the program ended and I can't trade it anymore. Has anyone been successful by talking to Tesla keeping both $5,000 and FUSC?

Did Tesla recently allow you to give the refund? I get auto message that I can't get the $5,000 by trading FUSC. The last email I sent, they haven't even replied me yet.

On my P3D account, it still shows the "Pay per use supercharging." But I charged it on my work today morning, and it seems it acknowledges my FUSC.

I agree that it is amateurish that they do this. This is not not the level of the professional auto company. But I think they are experiencing glitches in website update that may have caused us to go to Pay-per-use. I will test it out tonight at supercharger if they charge us.

Performance Model 3 with 20 inch wheel 7500 mi driven with 253 Wh/mi

The new car smell is nearly gone after about 7 months but there is a faint smell if I close the windows for a long drive.

Anyone still waiting for the spoiler and badge? I have waited for 6 month. What is the longest wait so far from owners?

I hope they accidentally left out. I always found that 2016 P100D with EAP was a unicorn: AP 2.0, FSD capability, Refresh design, Free Unlimited Super Charging tied to the car, and 2.28 seconds 0-60mph. The epitome of greatness! Something I am considering buying once my Model S75D lease end...

I thought all cars prior to 2017 Jan 3rd had FUSC and is transferrable to the next owner. But this P100D is not included despite it has EAP. Does Tesla still honor the FUSC or did Tesla change its mind that all AP 2.0 gets no FUSC? Model S P100D 5YJSA1E44GF166850 | Tesla