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Wild. Did you get the message about not being eligible prior to the camera upgrade?

Thanks. What is the hardware requirement? How do I validate if I need the camera update... we just had MCU2 upgrade a month ago.

Going from thread page 1 to page 224. Can anyone update on if Model X 2017 with MCU2 FSD w/ AP2.0 are officially getting FSD beta.

I have a 2017 Model X and upgrade MCU2. Is it an absolute requirement to upgrade the cameras? How much does it cost?

I pickedup a used Model X from Tesla recently. It had the old MCU1 and I paid to get it upgraded. Included software for FSD. We've scored over 95 over two weeks and have 100+ miles on autopilot... but no request to join the Beta. Does anyone know if it happens quickly after hitting...

Lot's of noise and discussion around potential rear facing 3rd row seats a month ago. Has there been any additional news on this front? I recall hearing someone was getting an early preview of a 3rd row seating model but never saw anything posted if this occured.

There have been several '17 100Ds hitting... 6 seaters w/ FSD sub 70K.

Looks like some of the prices have bounced back up and inventory has dipped a bit. Wonder if there was a pickup in buyers or if they unloaded some to secondary market. Still stunned by lack of 100D '17 inventory... where is it all? I think I recall hearing the was a 100D battery shortage...

This seems reasonable? Don't see that actual seats, where did you buy them? How much?

Nice! Any pictures? How many miles?

Flexible, although this would be an alternative to getting a used Model X 90D... so ideally below that price point.

Looking for potential sellers... Ideally in midwest location. Our family is in Chicago.

I'd like to see stop and go greatly decreased. The risk is very low when you're only moving <10MPH and the accuracy is very high of the system. I don't see why it couldn't go 10 mins+ very safely.

Trying to rationalize what might actually make FSD more interesting. One thought was its ability to greatly reduce how often driver nag occurs during highway driving. Has anyone seen if this is being considered? Or is the driving nag more of a regulation related issue?

That's awesome! 6-seater as well plus 2 years left on warranty. Any chance you could swap out the battery for a 100D for $15K... that would be awesome to have a 100D for $60K all in (old AP 1.0)

Any other charging locations for those head up that way? We take trip from Chicago to Munising... are there 50A RV areas where some can charge? That Meijer would be AMAZING. That's our stopping point to load up on groceries every year.

Awesome feedback! Thanks everyone. Can anyone comment on the "loadability" factor? At what ages can they just pop the back, get in, buckle themselves, and close door? (can they close the door?) Comparing that to loadability of jumping into Model X or traditional SUV and getting in boaster...

Awesome! We might take you up on that if we don't hear back from anyone local. Regarding the cooling, do you find having a little fan in the back helps at all? Also, what about winter time and heat? Similar issues, or does the heat transfer well to the rear? We are currently a single car...

Would be nice for Tesla to provide some kind of work around like this that is certified. It would be in there best interest too. The fact the seal itself can't be replaced without the glass is a ridiculous design oversight.

How long does it typically take to build out a location once they start? We have our annual trek to the UP end of July. Probably a long shot.

My family has been debating getting a MS with rear facing seats as our family hauler for the 5 of us... We've been eying up model X's for a while, but with the deteriorating seals, shudder shake, and other issues.... we're reconsidering a model S. Challenge is we haven't been able to find or...

My family has been debating getting a MS with rear facing seats as our family hauler for the 5 of us... We've been eying up model X's for a while, but with the deteriorating seals, shudder shake, and other issues.... we're reconsidering a model S. Challenge is we haven't been able to find or...

Wow that's awful if true. Can anyone else validate? If true this might be the deal breaker from me on getting an X. If the shudder drama wasn't enough... dropping $2K every couple years for new seals out of pocket is absurd. Is there really no recommended fix? Some kind of seal protector?

Interesting. How did that work for the Model S? They did aftermarket installs, were the cars certified for 7, but sold in 5 seat configs?

Everyone has their own perception of safety. I grew up in the rear facing seat of my grandparents station wagon. In my parents van we used to lay down in the rear seat (which folder into a bed). I'd be much more concerned with a head on crash, then a fender bender in the rear. There is...

I haven't tried the non-vented seats yet. We rented a MX P100D for a 3 hours trip to indy, and found those seats very comfy. Maybe I shouldn't try the newer ones to bias myself. '17 90D could be a nice option.. especially if you find one with FSD at a bargin. I'm still debating if I can only...

As many of us await what the plan will be for 7 seater design, I'm curious if there might be an aftermarket play to take the model S rear facing seat and retrofit into a Y on a 5 seater. I believe Tesla will do the aftermarket install into Model S's for around $1,800. Potential benefits...

We've been eyeing up used MX's as well for around 6 months. Some big pricing movements lately. I'm thinking this summer we might see the 90D's constantly below $50K with 4 year warranty's (6 seaters). I'm really curious where the MX '17 100D (six seaters) will land. Very little inventory for...

I'm very curious on this as well. I think we'll continue to see pretty aggressive pricing on the 75D/90D for the following reasons: 1) Downward pricing pressure from Model Y @ $55K new (You can get a brand new Y w/ better tech then a 2016 used X now) 2) Downward pricing pressure from built up...

How much was the quote?

It appears from multiple posts that the Rev D hardware isn't a permanent fix for the dreaded shudder. This means all MX owners may be stuck paying $2K/year (10-15K miles) in perpetuity for their vehicles, or alternatively learn to accept the issue. This doesn't seem to be a sustainable long...

I thought the Raven's were suppose to ship with the Rev-D part that resolved the shudder? Which part of my understanding is incorrect, that Raven's don't have Rev-D or Rev-D doesn't actually fix the issue?

Did you purchase the extended warranty... or is the warranty you referenced to the battery/motor?

How was the battery transition from 90D to 75D?

Does anyone know the root cause issue? It is a material flaw? Or some kind of cleaning agent that causes the early deterioration?

20's or 22's?

Interesting thought on the AP2. I would have thought we'd see more popping up into secondary market given the Oct '16 release timeframe. Perhaps they are getting held a bit longer. I was thinking the warranty expiration might start to accelerate some trade-in's as well... where less will want...

This is helpful to know. I've read some articles around the 90D having much quicker battery degradation in early models, so apparently post October '16 might have better longevity.

I'm familiar with the trade-offs of the older legacy models, the intent of this thread is around range tradeoffs. I'm coming from a Model 3, since our MX will be mostly a family hauler I'm not concerned about the older MCU or AP1. I've used AP1 and it works great for our needs. No need for...

I've been eyeing up 2016 90D's opposed to 75D's to get the couple extra miles... I've seen most getting between 220-235 miles fully charged. I just saw a posting for a 2017 75D that stated 235 miles at full charge. Is it true that there is barely any difference between the '16 90Ds and '17 75Ds?

So will they honor it? Or is it considered an "error"?

So what's the long term impact if there isn't an actual permanent fix. Is it essentially every ~15K you'll have to drop $2.5K, or alternatively just live with the shudder? Will the shudder cause any longer term issues or potential safety risks? If not, is it annoying enough to justify the...

Source? I still see '16 MX 90d CPO stating free super charging...

I've been watching the inventory over the last several months. Domestic US 6 seater inventory was hovering around 250 units and now down to around 150 units for several weeks... with some price increases from lower supply. Anyone else noticed this? Is it due to potential holiday buying, or...

Why no free super charging? I thought all '16s had it and it was transferable? Pretty good price given the condition. How much would it cost to have all the red detailed items switched back to chrome? Is that expensive?

Bump. Curious as well. I see both P90DL and P90D list in EVCPO. Curious what is going on and if Tesla honored what they sold.

Looks beautiful. Any remaining warranty or is it expired?

So it's likely we'll start to see a very large flood to the market of private sale '16s with expired warranties soon. All the early year buys will start in Jan '20. Will be interesting to see what effect this has on used market, as it will force value difference to CPO. Sorry- I completely...

How does one know the date of first delivery? I suppose you can assume it's some time after the manufacture date on the door.

As we close in on year end, can anyone comment on remaining warranties on '16 MX 90D. Is the warranty 4 years from the date on door? So if I purchase Dec 30 '16... my warranty will expire Dec 30 '20? So essentially assuming it's under 50K mileage... I'd still have a full year?