“Summon” isn’t so “smart”

[sugar silva]

Subscribed to FSD for a road trip. Thought I’d try summon in a mostly empty hotel parking lot. Car pulled out of the stall and briefly drove behind a parked semi truck obscuring my view. Car stopped moving and the app said “summon complete.” Walked around the semi to find the car trying to mate with an island.

Yes, I know the fine print says the car may not recognize curbs, keep it in sight at all times etc etc. Still, anyone thinking of using this feature for the first time should be aware your car may go rogue.

Nothing was damaged aside from additional rash to an already scuffed wheel, so I hope you find this as amusing as I did.

 

[laservet]

Actually Smart Summons (ASS) is on the horizon. Current version definitely needs supervision.

 

[sugar silva]

Actually Smart Summons (ASS) is on the horizon. Current version definitely needs supervision.

Hopefully it’s really good. Lot of potential there, but you’re right. Current version kind of sucks

 

[KentuckyX]

Same thing happened to me recently during a rainstorm at night. I was mostly watching but, like you, my vision was blocked at the end by a panel van. When I went to where the car was, I found it had completely jumped a curb and stopped 6 inches from a light post. This was my wife's 22 MY (sensors in the bumper). I assume from that event, the sensors aren't working for Summon and it's 100% vision-based, is that a correct assumption? Or is Summon just that bad? I've got a 23 MY and I'm paying for something (Smart Summon) that I don't even have yet. It baffles me that most of the features for Enhanced AP (which I have purchased for my 23 - she's got FSD in her 22), aren't even available yet. They took the cake out of the oven and served it before it was done.

 

[sugar silva]

Same thing happened to me recently during a rainstorm at night. I was mostly watching but, like you, my vision was blocked at the end by a panel van. When I went to where the car was, I found it had completely jumped a curb and stopped 6 inches from a light post. This was my wife's 22 MY (sensors in the bumper). I assume from that event, the sensors aren't working for Summon and it's 100% vision-based, is that a correct assumption? Or is Summon just that bad? I've got a 23 MY and I'm paying for something (Smart Summon) that I don't even have yet. It baffles me that most of the features for Enhanced AP (which I have purchased for my 23 - she's got FSD in her 22), aren't even available yet. They took the cake out of the oven and served it before it was done.

Our’s is also a 22. My understanding is that it is using the sensors, but I’m not certain.

 

[804son]

On the bright side, Your MYP has now done more offroading than Most Jeep Wranglers.

 

[sugar silva]

On the bright side, Your MYP has now done more offroading than Most Jeep Wranglers.

OH YES. Her flex game is strong lol

 

[Brian-MS90D]

Summon is trash. Hopefully V12 / (ASS) is better, but I'm doubtful. Someone on Twitter posted their V12 FSD running into a car while parking this or last week.

 

[fholbert]

Car stopped moving and the app said “summon complete.” Walked around the semi to find the car trying to mate with an island.

If you can get some successful breedings, look at the money you could make!

 

[gx9901]

I rented FSD for a couple of months last year and never once bothered to try smart summon. Based on what I knew about it and first hand observation of how FSD worked I knew if I wanted to keep my car in one piece I'd better not try it.

 

[memo=[]]

Oh boy..

 

[Jim R]

Did I understanding this wrong? If it says to keep the car in sight and you didn't, maybe you shouldn't complain.

 

[snorp]

I think FSDb is a complete POS but summon has always worked well for me. Maybe I’m just lucky

 

[sugar silva]

Did I understanding this wrong? If it says to keep the car in sight and you didn't, maybe you shouldn't complain.

If you thought I was complaining then yes, you either misunderstood the post, or didn’t read past the title.

 

[Jim R]

If you thought I was complaining then yes, you either misunderstood the post, or didn’t read past the title.

Well, the title seemed to be a complaint and later your "going rogue" comment reinforced it. The car didn't go rogue. Car was doing what it was supposed to do in my view and the only problem occurred when you didn't do what you were supposed to do. Later, when Tesla improves Summon and says it will work without you monitoring it, a situation like this would be cause for criticism.

 

[mborkow]

Shows how far we are from levels 4 and 5 of autonomous driving!

 

[Brian-MS90D]

Well, the title seemed to be a complaint and later your "going rogue" comment reinforced it. The car didn't go rogue. Car was doing what it was supposed to do in my view and the only problem occurred when you didn't do what you were supposed to do. Later, when Tesla improves Summon and says it will work without you monitoring it, a situation like this would be cause for criticism.

"Car was doing what it was supposed to do"

Mannnn, I'm so tired of Tesla FSD fanbois criticizing people for expecting the car to do what Tesla and Elon Musk claim it will be able to do on their website and in their speaking for - - years, since at least 2016 now! I mean, even Elon Musk has repeatedly admitted that Summon does not do what it's supposed to do.

 

[sugar silva]

"Car was doing what it was supposed to do"

Mannnn, I'm so tired of Tesla FSD fanbois criticizing people for expecting the car to do what Tesla and Elon Musk claim it will be able to do on their website and in their speaking for - - years, since at least 2016 now! I mean, even Elon Musk has repeatedly admitted that Summon does not do what it's supposed to do.

Well said. The car is not “supposed” to fail to see curbs.

 

[mborkow]

"Car was doing what it was supposed to do"

Mannnn, I'm so tired of Tesla FSD fanbois criticizing people for expecting the car to do what Tesla and Elon Musk claim it will be able to do on their website and in their speaking for - - years, since at least 2016 now! I mean, even Elon Musk has repeatedly admitted that Summon does not do what it's supposed to do.

Robo taxis next year!

 

[Jim R]

Well said. The car is not “supposed” to fail to see curbs.

That's not what you said in your previous post "...Yes, I know the fine print says the car may not recognize curbs,..." So if it may not recognize curbs, maybe you should keep it in sight at all times (like the instructions say to do)