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2021+ Model S LR Delivery Tracking
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FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
This is a bit of a surprise for Tesla to change course on FSD technology in future vehicles. 
electrek.co
"Tesla has filed to use a new radar in its electric vehicles, and everyone is confused since Elon Musk has made it clear that Tesla plans to achieve self-driving with camera-based vision only. After years of using a suite of sensors that included both cameras and a radar, Tesla announced a transition to its “Tesla Vision” system without radar and only using cameras and neural nets.
The move has some Tesla owners who bought Tesla’s Full Self-Driving worried that their vision-based system is now not going to be enough if Tesla decides to add new hardware. Since 2016, Tesla has claimed that all its vehicles produced are equipped with all the hardware necessary to achieve self-driving capability in the future through software updates. It turned out to be not true as Tesla needed to upgrade the onboard computer. Now they are also concerned about some of the older cameras inside the vehicles, and as we learn today, a new radar might be added to the list."
Tesla files to use a new radar and everyone is confused
Tesla has filed to use a new radar in its electric vehicles, and everyone is confused since Elon Musk has made it clear that Tesla plans to achieve self-driving with camera-based vision only. After years of using a suite of sensors that included both cameras and a radar, Tesla announced a...
"Tesla has filed to use a new radar in its electric vehicles, and everyone is confused since Elon Musk has made it clear that Tesla plans to achieve self-driving with camera-based vision only. After years of using a suite of sensors that included both cameras and a radar, Tesla announced a transition to its “Tesla Vision” system without radar and only using cameras and neural nets.
The move has some Tesla owners who bought Tesla’s Full Self-Driving worried that their vision-based system is now not going to be enough if Tesla decides to add new hardware. Since 2016, Tesla has claimed that all its vehicles produced are equipped with all the hardware necessary to achieve self-driving capability in the future through software updates. It turned out to be not true as Tesla needed to upgrade the onboard computer. Now they are also concerned about some of the older cameras inside the vehicles, and as we learn today, a new radar might be added to the list."
This is a bit of a surprise for Tesla to change course on FSD technology in future vehicles.
Tesla files to use a new radar and everyone is confused
Tesla has filed to use a new radar in its electric vehicles, and everyone is confused since Elon Musk has made it clear that Tesla plans to achieve self-driving with camera-based vision only. After years of using a suite of sensors that included both cameras and a radar, Tesla announced a...
"Tesla has filed to use a new radar in its electric vehicles, and everyone is confused since Elon Musk has made it clear that Tesla plans to achieve self-driving with camera-based vision only. After years of using a suite of sensors that included both cameras and a radar, Tesla announced a transition to its “Tesla Vision” system without radar and only using cameras and neural nets.
The move has some Tesla owners who bought Tesla’s Full Self-Driving worried that their vision-based system is now not going to be enough if Tesla decides to add new hardware. Since 2016, Tesla has claimed that all its vehicles produced are equipped with all the hardware necessary to achieve self-driving capability in the future through software updates. It turned out to be not true as Tesla needed to upgrade the onboard computer. Now they are also concerned about some of the older cameras inside the vehicles, and as we learn today, a new radar might be added to the list."
Honestly elons a clown
People that still take him for his word for truth right now is just whack.
Can't wait for a proper Tesla competition one day but for now I'll have to make do with thjs.
Im switching the minute/hr/year a proper competitor from perhaps legacy manufacturers come out with somethjng worth the drive/price
And all the other big manufacturers are following this clowns footsteps. Ford is bypassing dealers on EV’s, Rivian claims to be starting it’s own charging network. Ford is building battery plants. You don’t think they won’t follow the incremental change model. Or promise things that might be late. GM promised to be first with the Volt. How’s that going for them.
It’s gonna be hard to catch up to Elon. Elon is at least 5 years ahead, if not more. Think you’re gonna be waiting a long time. It will take 10 years to catch up and that assumes Elon moves slow and others move faster.
Just for clarification, F will not (and cannot due to franchise laws) ‘bypass’ dealers. While you can order EVs from its site, you will have to take delivery (and deal with) independent dealers for delivery, financial services, and vehicle service.
On another note-what Tesla has achieved is beyond historical in the automotive sector-while Elon is very problematic, examining the ‘founders’ of other OEMs can revel some serious issues at best as well.
Picked up my car end of January. It had a small rear dent and scratch on right door panel. Took it back to Tesla and they were able to repair these with a local body shop. Issue was they had to remove my rear glass to work on it, and when installing the new glass, it was cracked. I’m going on over a month waiting to get my car back and they have no rear glass in inventory. Safelite quoted me 2-3 months of wait time. Guess I’m stuck riding my loaner model 3 for now
EightYears
Member
Terrible. Legit fear I have with Tesla. At least you have a loaner
stok1232
Member
Does anyone know if Tesla still lets you put a hold on a reservation for 30 days? I was given a Model S VIN Monday and I tried to put a hold on the car but they told me I can't. They said I can let that VIN go and once I get the next one I have to take the car or I lose it. So today I checked my account an it shows a new VIN with basically same delivery date as previous one. I have a NF480 VIN June 21-25th delivery.
When did you place your order? The current order agreement only allows you to delay up to 30 days past the order date. So no, in general they aren't allowing orders to be put on hold anymore. (They are tired of people placing orders to lock in the price, and then wait for new features, or the price to go up.)
stok1232
Member
The one you agree to when placing your order: https://www.tesla.com/order/download-order-agreement?redirect=no&country=US&model_code=ms
In one section it says you have up to 30 days from when they first contact you:
In another section it says you only have 90 days from your order date:
So I misremembered a little bit. But if you are 90 days past your order date, they don't have to allow you any delays. So you get somewhere between 30 days after they first try to setup delivery and 90 days after you placed the order.
And they can always use the "bad faith" clause at any time if you reject multiple attempted deliveries with no "valid" reason.
stok1232
Member
Thank you for that. I was successful in putting my Model X on hold in May (reserved Sept 2021) so I maybe I just got lucky on that one and they weren't suppose to do that.
For your interior misalignment, my SA told me that there isn't any adjustment in there for this, and that taking the interior door panel off just to put it back on and hope it's in a different place would be fruitless. Also may introduce new rattles, etc. If you successfully get the SC to fix this, let me know. I have the same exact picture of my car!
They told me the same thing, but I was unsure if I should believe it. I appreciate the input because that was in the back of my mind. The misalignment does not bother me as much as a rattle would.
I booked service out for a few weeks so I could drive around for a bit. We'll see if the detailer can get the scuffs out.
Thanks
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