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2022 Model S Plaid+ GVWR = 5596 lbs, 4 lbs short for IRS section 179-168 !! Why??

RIB-JIG

Member
Jun 23, 2020
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Miami Beach
Not fraud if legit GVWR = 6001 lbs...
by remeasuring safest maximum load.
Can S Plaid+ that is safe at 5996 lb loaded
really become unsafe at 6001 lbs loaded???
Sure, there's a point where "safe" becomes "unsafe", but...
And S Plaid+ isn't mass manufactured yet, some micro-tweak is possible...
 

BPeter

Member
Feb 2, 2019
665
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Minnesota
I'm sure the GVWR is based on some repeatable, industry accepted, testing standard. They can't just "fudge" it 5 pounds.
It wouldn't require them to "fudge" it, just slightly improve something to increase the load capacity by 5lbs.
I wonder if they purposely are staying below 6000lbs, maybe some classification changes if it's over which would change some testing or safety requirements or something that they want to avoid.
 

HankLloydRight

No Roads
Jan 18, 2014
12,993
11,031
Connecticut
It wouldn't require them to "fudge" it, just slightly improve something to increase the load capacity by 5lbs.
I wonder if they purposely are staying below 6000lbs, maybe some classification changes if it's over which would change some testing or safety requirements or something that they want to avoid.
Yeah, and if they “slightly improve” something that increases the GVWR, they’d probably have to get a whole list of things re-certified, including crash testing. As I said, they can’t just fudge it as easily as you are implying.
 

RIB-JIG

Member
Jun 23, 2020
34
6
Miami Beach
Model X GVWR = 6500+ lbs.
Model X qualifies for IRS section 179 & 168.
That's why lots of doctors & lawyers buy Model X.
Tesla does NOT avoid 6000 lbs.
Why they came within 4 lbs on 2022 S Plaid+,
as Brian Wilson wrote, "God Only Knows..." ⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️

note: GVWR is determined by automaker, NOT by outside agency,
so AFAICT no outside agency tests GVWR...
 
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BigNick

Infamous Fat Sweaty Guy
Dec 3, 2017
1,211
1,449
Pennsylvania, USA
Maybe improve the durability of the infamous breaking suspension pieces?
Beefier air struts?
Return of the + sport suspension?

I'm pretty sure when big-block V8 full-size station wagons existed, some of them had a GVWR > 6000 lbs.
 

akf0

New Member
Apr 19, 2021
2
0
San Jose, CA
False false false.
"Generally speaking, the Section 179 tax deduction applies to passenger vehicles,
heavy SUVs, trucks and vans that are used at least 50% of the time for business-related purposes."
Are you a CPA? or your CPA tells you that 6000lbs can apply to a sedan like Mercedes s-class?
 

RIB-JIG

Member
Jun 23, 2020
34
6
Miami Beach
your CPA tells you that 6000lbs can apply to a sedan like Mercedes s-class?
Bloody gawblimey.
My IRS tells me:

"Large vehicles
Up to $25,500 of the cost of vehicles rated at more than 6,000 pounds gross vehicle weight and not more than 14,000 pounds gross vehicle weight (like RV) can be deducted using a section 179 deduction.[9] The limitation on sport utility vehicles does not impact larger commercial vehicles, commuter vans, or buses."

"vehicles"
are you getting it yet?
let me try again...
"VEHICLES"

In various settings, when tax deductions are brought up,
there's ALWAYS a couple of angry responders that attempt, but fail,
to hinder useful responses. WHAT IS THEIR UNDERLYING ISSUE????!!!
(asked rhetorically)
 

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