So S/X line is down for re-tooling for the 2023 changes ... resuming in a few weeks ...
Any other speculation on what other changes we'll see?
What about HW4?
Any other speculation on what other changes we'll see?
What about HW4?
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What are the changes known so far?So S/X line is down for re-tooling for the 2023 changes ... resuming in a few weeks ...
Any other speculation on what other changes we'll see?
What about HW4?
Verified:What are the changes known so far?
I'd pay just to have my horn back as the airbag. Living in a city with 50% bad drivers, honking is a necessity & it's a bit hard to do with a 3/8" button without taking your focus off the road.Verified:
* Bigger rear infotainment
* Bigger rear brake calipers
* No "T" logo on back
Wishlist:
* Center horn
* HW4
Hmm... wonder why they are "down for tooling for a few weeks" according to them?None of those changes require “tooling” changes,
Not sure, maybe its An easier explanation for analysts to understand without them blowing things up into something it’s not like they usually doHmm... wonder why they are "down for tooling for a few weeks" according to them?
I saw that, not the same as the Plaid upgraded calipers ... no idea who makes them but they are much bigger on the rear ...Also, as far as the new brakes, some say this is a downgrade because they are not using Brembo anymore.
Also, as far as the new brakes, some say this is a downgrade because they are not using Brembo anymore.
Tesla clandestinely downgrades performance brakes, adds cover to hide it
Tesla has sneakily downgraded its performance breaks on the Model Y Performance and even put a cover to hide the change in a deceptive move.electrek.co
I agree, brand doesn't matter. 2mm thinner rotors, smaller pads and covering them to look like the old brakes doesn't give me much confidence that Tesla is only improving the brakes. The article is mainly about the Y brake changes being spotted, so there is that. Time will tell if the S Performance brakes are improvement, or just cost cutting.Name brand is irrelevant. Plaid brake pads suck massively & they are pads made by Brembo. Swap those pads out with a set of PFC pads from unplugged, and your car will instantly stop faster like it should from the factory.
I won't defend the move from Tesla, but closed pot and open pot calipers make no difference. Both are single piston rear brakes and the caliper cover *should* help dissipate the heat pretty close to a closed pot setup.I agree, brand doesn't matter. 2mm thinner rotors, smaller pads and covering them to look like the old brakes doesn't give me much confidence that Tesla is only improving the brakes. The article is mainly about the Y brake changes being spotted, so there is that. Time will tell if the S Performance brakes are improvement, or just cost cutting.
This isn't the case or I would have a VIN by now, ordered Jan 1.Prolly they have too much product, so it is a good time to suspend production for a few weeks, and they can say it is for retooling.
That might not be an ideal solution. High performance pads tend to generate more brake dust, squeal more, need warm-up, and more aggressive on rotors. Would be nicer if Tesla just went with a bigger rotor, caliper, and more pistons.Name brand is irrelevant. Plaid brake pads suck massively & they are pads made by Brembo. Swap those pads out with a set of PFC pads from unplugged, and your car will instantly stop faster like it should from the factory.
They're street pads, they sell different track pads for that reason. Also, I don't care about rotor or pad wear, I'd rather have my car stop properly and replace parts as needed. It did not do that from the factory.That might not be an ideal solution. High performance pads tend to generate more brake dust, squeal more, need warm-up, and more aggressive on rotors. Would be nicer if Tesla just went with a bigger rotor, caliper, and more pistons.
I have an old rice rocket with 4-piston Stoptech big brake kit. It stops on a dime, stops mediocre when cold, generates a ridciulous amount of brake dust, and eats my rotor.
They're street pads, they sell different track pads for that reason. Also, I don't care about rotor or pad wear, I'd rather have my car stop properly and replace parts as needed. It did not do that from the factory.
Meaning you can use them for an occasional track day but they won't hold up to real track abuse.Model S / Plaid UP x PFC High Performance Brake Pads
The Tesla Model S / Plaid UP x PFC High Performance Brake Pads (for OEM Rotors) are designed to improve braking performance with OEM rotors on your vehicleunpluggedperformance.com
They do advertise these as "street + track day" pads.