Ok, now stay with me. Breathe in and out, paying attention to the breath. Repeat as necessary. That's it. You should feel better in just a few minutes.
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Ok, now stay with me. Breathe in and out, paying attention to the breath. Repeat as necessary. That's it. You should feel better in just a few minutes.
I was updating all my Winks to Wink 2s today and as always the transfer did not go smoothly so I took the opportunity to discuss this with them. They said that the Wink 1s had a lot of antennas and that caused interference but that all those troubles went away with Wink 2. I said, no they did not and explained it to them. They just seemed confused so will try again tomorrow.
Yes, I know that and tried to explain that it wasn't the multi-broadcast from the wink as it interacted with my various devices but rather the wink traffic within the network itself. Lo and behold, I set up a cascading network with a 50 buck Belkin b/g/n router set up in a completely separate IP pool xxx.xxx.2.x vs. xxx.xxx.1.x and subnet, connected the WAN port of the new router to my main router via a couple of powerline adapters I had sitting around so I could put the new router in the garage and voila! Rock steady 5 bar connection. 1 whole f-ing year wasted on this nonsense. My wife just rolled her eyes at me and said not only could she care less but she had no idea what I was talking about. Shouldn't have to be a network engineer (or passionate amateur) to make your car connect properly to your network. I have 54 separate devices that connect just fine without macro and micro-scale network tinkering (or swearing or kicking puppies). Why should Tesla be different!!?
Funny I was in a similar situation and also even went out and bought an Orbi system and couldn't get it working on that on the Guest network. One day I just decided to disconnect everything one by one until I found the culprit. Your comment about being a network engineer was exactly what I told Tesla
Also have now set up a completely separate network / subnet with a separate Asus router I had lying around and only put the Teslas on that network. Works just fine now, but the pain of getting it working was crazy.
Also have now set up a completely separate network / subnet with a separate Asus router I had lying around and only put the Teslas on that network. Works just fine now, but the pain of getting it working was crazy.
CRKus
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Ahh, but at least now you have a solid wifi setup.
Seriously, Ubiquiti makes good stuff. I've switched over from various NetGear and ASUS hardware to be 100% UniFi APs, so I recognize the controller UI when I see it.
I also used to be a Wink user, but switched to SmartThings. Not sure if that'll cause similar issues, but just in case, my plan is to create a guest wireless network on a tagged VLAN in the UniFi controller. The VLAN should ensure that the car is isolated from any broadcast or multicast traffic on my regular network.
ReverendTed
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whitex
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I don't have a Wink at my house, but our 2 cars connect at various intervals, ranging from 7m to 16hrs at a time.
PS> If in addition to Ubiquity AP you also have their security gateway, you could setup a separate wireless network just for the cars if you want (separate VLAN, even different IP subnet) - no additional hardware required.
That's weird I have never had this issue with my MS. I've had Wink 2 at my home forever now. If it's a network traffic issue, I would think I would be impacted as my entire home is automated. At any given time, I have 10-12 devices connected to my primary network.
Someone up there mentioned that the Wink used its own VPN... Are we sure that's not the issue, and we aren't doing the "multiple VPNs don't work on the network" deal again? That would explain why the cars won't connect when they come back home, since, as @NewTMSMan had in the beginning, he was running a VPN off the router and that broke it.
VPN clients, of course, aren't a problem normally (we use the Pulse VPN client, multiple copies, all the time, from Windows PCs). I'm wondering again if Wink did something dumb as so many companies do and assume they are the only user of 'X' on a network.
Mine is still working great on the Orbi guest setup, but I wasn't aware how 'non-isolated' it was. Arg....
VPN clients, of course, aren't a problem normally (we use the Pulse VPN client, multiple copies, all the time, from Windows PCs). I'm wondering again if Wink did something dumb as so many companies do and assume they are the only user of 'X' on a network.
Mine is still working great on the Orbi guest setup, but I wasn't aware how 'non-isolated' it was. Arg....
We tried a separate network when we had an old Linksys router and it appeared to work.
A few weeks later, we upgraded to Orbi and the problem returned. It seems that Orbi's "guest network" isn't a truly separate network because the Wink hub instantly started causing problems again even when it was on the main network and only Teslas were on the guest network.
It appears the Orbi 'guest' is 'isolated' by routing but not by VLAN, so, traffic that wants to can still get to the other network. Good enough for your party guests to have their own network, but not for wayward electronics or bad actors in general.
Mine works since my DLNAs are on the Verizon FiOS coax network, but good grief, how much trial and error do we all have to do?
whitex
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I never used Orbi, but Ubiquity Unify AP + Unify SG solution allows you to create totally separate networks (guest or other non-guest ones) - you can give it a whole separate subnet and VLAN and not allow any cross VLAN broadcasts (default setting), so no packets whatsoever can cross.
Thanks for the tip. I don't have the Unifi Security Gateway yet. When you mentioned "no additional hardware required", I was thinking you meant I could do that already via an existing router. Reading it again, I see you meant that I could do it if I had the Security Gateway.
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