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Anyone leasing with Arval - additional charge [refund] ?
- Thread starter Chalks99
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No, it’s wrong.
EVs are exempt from VED (I believe you still have to apply for it, but it’s £0) and in a Budget this year were made exempt from the £40k+ “luxury vehicle tax”.
In short, there are no yearly taxes for EVs, so Arval needs to update its records or something.
EVs are exempt from VED (I believe you still have to apply for it, but it’s £0) and in a Budget this year were made exempt from the £40k+ “luxury vehicle tax”.
In short, there are no yearly taxes for EVs, so Arval needs to update its records or something.
Im sure thats wrong (Zero emissions are exempt)
Car tax bands 2020/21 - VED rates UK 2021
Zero emissions that were valued over 40k did have VED but this was removed earlier in the year and is now £0
Car tax bands 2020/21 - VED rates UK 2021
Zero emissions that were valued over 40k did have VED but this was removed earlier in the year and is now £0
Jason71
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when you bought the car it was probably still in force so you may have signed up to it and they clearly have not updated their system to reflect that it no longer exists. The odd thing is though it was only £325 anyway and even if they wanted to pay it monthly its still only £341 so not sure where they are getting that number from anyway? They probably added an admin fee to add insult to injury.
Are you sure it's a charge of £384 and not a refund? VED was baked into my Leaseplan agreement and I got £384 refunded at the end of last month as a result of the new exemption.
As @chr15toffer said if the car was delivered pre-Budget it would've been baked into the lease anyway, so might well be a refund instead.
Need clarity on what it is really. As far as I know EVs have never paid VED (or have been zero rated for it anyway), but what changed this year was that they became exempted from the luxury car tax for years 2-5 for cars over £40k. This applied retrospectively.
The £384 might be an amortised calculation of the £325 tax plus interest for that year? Although @chr15toffer got refunded the same amount, so...
if people have got 3 year or longer leases I would assume that they should be getting a refund of (lease term - 1) x (£325 + interest) of those payments. I don't know why that refund wouldn't have happened immediately though? Why would they need to wait a year to process it? Unless there is a belief that the rules might change in future?
Sounds messy, or maybe I'm just making it messy!
Jason71
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Based on his avatar he has an M3. No M3 ever paid the additional rate unless there was a change of keeper prior to April this year
Sorry to spit hairs ( this is kind of my specialist subject sadly based on my work) but there isn't really such thing as the "luxury car tax" its real name is "VED Additional Rate" it is just one component of VED of which there are several. So its not really correct to say that EV's have never paid VED though this is the only component of VED that they did ever pay.
it was payable from the second licence for 5 years which is not always years 2 - 5. If there is a change of keeper in the first year for example it would kick in from then.
Also just to clarify the change was applied to existing vehicles and new ones rather than "retrospectively" which would imply people who had already paid it got a refund which they did not ( though there were cunning ways to reclaim future months you had already paid in advance)
At the time of purchase, the additional fee was £320/year, applicable from year 2 onwards. The refund is £320+VAT for year 2.
Jason71
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Hi, thank you all for your input; I have spoken to Arval and the amount in question is actually a credit not a debit; it just wasn’t clear on the invoice.
Original lease amount was based on the tax being applicable, as it isn’t, then they have issued a refund.
Very honest of them !
