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Bmw x5 phev

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by Spidy, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. Spidy

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    Well, it's a hybrid, so there's that ;)
     
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    The more plug-ins, the better. To your point, I would like to see other car manufacturers come out with more 100% EVs. I'd also like to see another manufacturer cooperate with Tesla to use the Superchargers. Maybe Chevrolet will do that with their new EV coming out in a few years.
     
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    The challenge is, like other PHEV's, you'll find these things clogging up the chargers when BEV's need them more.
     
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    I see this around my office almost every day. I don't need the L2 charger, but a lot of the Leafs and Sparks do. Yet half the chargers are usually taken up by Volts and other PHEVs - and there are frequently emails from desperate EV owners asking if someone can PLEASE move...
     
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    The battery capacity is limited by packaging it into body never intended for it without intruding into cargo/passenger space too much. Once you've settled on that battery capacity, that will define how much current you can pull from it and have it still survive to the end of California's electric-drive component warranty requirements. (150,000 miles/10 years?) 100HP/75-ish kW is an 8C discharge rate on a 9kWh pack. Many battery chemistries will lose charge capacity quickly at that discharge rate.
     
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    19 miles on electric only? Really? I don't have far to go to work and I can't make it there and back on electric mode. So, for me at least, this is disappointing and not something I would buy. Darn.
     
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    I could actually make it to work, out to lunch, and back home in 19 miles. I still wouldn't buy it.
     
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    About the same electric range as the Cayenne PHEV. I was actually considering that one for about a week until Tesla announced the D and returned me to reality.
     
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    that actually shows the strengths of phev (flexibility of both drivetrains) and the severe, awful weakness of owning such a compromised car as an EV. except for tesla of course.

    i personally think volt is an exceptional choice in 2015, provided you can afford it.
     
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    I get laughed at, but I agree. If you can't afford a Tesla, go with a volt.
     
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    I concur. In fact, if the original Volt had a real 80 to 100 mile battery-only range, I probably would have delayed my Tesla purchase until the Model X came about. (The Volt can't haul my wife, 4 boys, and luggage, so we'd still have our "big vehicle".)

    The 50-mile battery range of the second-gen Volt is still a yawner. I live in a rural area, where a trip for groceries (except emergency milk-n-eggs stuff) is 60 mi round-trip, and winter plays havoc for a few months. So none of the other EV's really help (and you still have that nasty "pay for dual drivetrains" situation).
     
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    #15 gregincal, Mar 17, 2015
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    I think the Volt is fine, but don't get the point of PHEVs like this. Plugging it in gives you a little better gas mileage, but you still need the gasoline engine to actually do any reasonable driving. I think I'd rather get a normal gasoline only hybrid (referring to the energy source and not the propulsion technology) and not have to bother with plugging it in at all. The electric motor isn't that much more powerful than a normal Prius.
     

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