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#182
Xpeng had their Tech Day where they shared some info on their autonomous driving roadmap:

Expand XNGP to 50 cities by year-end
XNGP is actively undergoing engineering testing to expand its availability for urban roadways. XNGP is currently available in five cities and XPENG plans to roll out the XNGP function in an addition of 20 cities that are not covered by HD maps by the end of November 2023, with coverage extended to 50 cities by year-end.
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Launch new ADAS feature called AI Valet Driver
XPENG also kicks off an all-new ADAS feature - AI Valet Driver. After activating the function, drivers can set their start and end points anywhere in the city. After manually driving once, a memorized route is created. Later, when selecting the same travel route, the driver can activate the "AI Valet Driver" function to achieve advanced assisted driving for specific routes or scenarios in the cities.
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Introduced new perception architecture called XBrain
More importantly, XPENG's prowess lies in its continuous leadership in research and development capabilities. At the Tech Day, the Company also presented its ultimate architecture for full-scenario ADAS - XBrain, which is supported by XNet2.0, the next-gen perception architecture with spatiotemporal understanding, and XPlanner, the neural network-based planning and control system, to enable more human-like learning, thinking and actions.
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Integrate XGPT, new in-cabin AI model for better human-machine co-driving experience
XOS Tianji is XPENG’s newest development in smart cabin operating systems, seamlessly integrating XPENG’s smart driving capabilities and next-generation smart cabin scenarios, advancing the human-machine co-driving experience. XPENG will also integrate the XGPT, a large-scale AI model, into its smart cabin system, enabling even faster, and more concise responses upon user requests, and delivering the interaction in a more natural way. AI foundation models are not only deployed to enhance intelligent driving and smart cabin capabilities but also vehicle design and code development, enhancing multiple business areas and research domains
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Source: XPENG Hosts its 2023 TECH DAY: Advancing Leadership in Intelligent Driving and AI-defined Mobility

I am really curious about AI Valet Driver. It sounds like you first drive manually a specific route and then turn on the feature and the driver assist will mimic how you drive that route. There have been many times I wish I could drive a route manually and then have FSD Beta "learn" how to do that route the way I drive it. So that sounds like a great feature.
 
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#184
Mobileye shares details on the hardware on the upcoming Polestar 4 that will have Mobileye Chauffeur for "eyes off/hands off" highway:

Announced in August, Polestar 4 is planned to be the first production car to feature Mobileye Chauffeur, now with Luminar LiDAR, which builds upon the full-surround camera-based SuperVision platform available in Polestar 4 from launch. Together, the three companies aim to offer eyes-off, point-to-point autonomous driving on highways, as well as eyes-on hands off driving for other environments.
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With Mobileye Chauffeur, Polestar 4 is set to feature three Mobileye EyeQ6 processors, a front-facing LiDAR from Luminar, and Mobileye’s front-facing imaging radar to provide the extra layer of sensing and artificial intelligence needed to enable eyes-off, hands-off driving.
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www.mobileye.com

Polestar 4 to integrate Luminar lidar with Mobileye Chauffeur | Mobileye News

A future version of the Polestar 4 will feature Mobileye Chauffeur eyes-off, hands-off technology using Luminar lidar.
www.mobileye.com www.mobileye.com
 
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#187
Very informative podcast interview with Mobileye's CEO Amnon Shashua:


Summary:
  • Zeekr has 130,000 cars now in China with SuperVision
  • Mobileye's base ADAS generates $50/car of revenue.
  • SuperVision ("eyes on-hands off") generates $1,500/car of revenue.
  • Chauffeur ("eyes off") will generate $3,000/car of revenue.
  • Robotaxi ("driverless") tech will generate tens of thousands of dollars per car of revenue.
  • Mobileye is transitioning to these more advanced systems that generate more revenue per car and offer more value to the consumer.
  • Mobileye has lots of design wins: Volvo, Polestar, Porsche, Smart, FAW interested in SuperVision and Chaffeur.
  • VW testing Mobileye robotaxi with safety drivers.
  • Mobileye proposes new taxonomy instead of SAE Levels: "eyes on-hands on", "eyes on-hands off", "eyes off", "driverless".
  • "eyes off" covers a range of activities (talking to passenger, reading book, texting, watching movie, sleeping etc). Manufacturer will determine ODD and which activity is ok for their specific "eyes off" system. Driver monitoring will check appropriate behavior.
  • If driver needs to take over at moments notice, it is "eyes on". "eyes off" will never require driver to take over at moments notice but will give the driver several seconds warning before needing to taking over.
  • MTBF or mean-time-before-failure is defined as mean time between accidents with injury caused by driving system. Accidents caused by other drivers are not counted in MTBF. Shashua believes it is possible to achieve order of magnitude safer than humans.
  • Manufacturer can limit ODD based on MTBF of system. So for example, if system is safer than humans on highways but not on city streets, then limit system to only be "eyes off" on highway and switch back to "eyes on" on city streets.
  • Manufacturers want to customize the Mobileye system for their unique driving experience. Perception cannot be customized, it must be same for all cars. Mobileye provides the full stack (perception to planning) but manufacturers can write their code on top to fine tune controls and some of the driving policy. The "hard" driving policy cannot be customized.
  • SuperVision, Chauffeur and robotaxis all use same driving policy. Only difference is the amount of redundancy of the perception stack. SuperVision is vision-only, Chauffeur for highways adds front high def lidar and front high def radar with surround standard radar. Chauffeur for city streets uses surround high def radar. Robotaxis add more lidar and radar.
  • Shashua thinks it will be about a decade before scalable robotaxis. Companies like Cruise and Waymo are losing billions of dollars per year. He does not believe those losses are sustainable for that long.
  • 3 robotaxi issues: safety, efficiency (not blocking traffic or first responders) and cost (need low number of remote assistant per car, 100 cars per remote assistant or better). With enough money and time, he does believe Cruise and Waymo could eventually solve all 3 of these robotaxi issues.
  • Shashua believes that Mobileye business model is more sustainable because Mobileye can generate revenue with partial autonomy products (SuperVision, Chauffeur) to keep business going on path towards robotaxis. Self-driving is a marathon so it requires generating revenue to keep business going long term.
  • Mobileye rejected operating their own robotaxi service because cost of operating robotaxi fleet was too high and it would require skills in logistics etc that would distract from Mobileye's strength which is developing autonomous tech.
  • China was great as first market for SuperVision because they are more open to new tech. There are several Chinese cars with similar advanced L2 systems. Outside China, Tesla is really only company with advanced tech in their cars.
 
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#189
diplomat33 said:
NIO's version of "FSD Beta"
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Misery loves company I guess! So bad. Certainly very easy to sit on the sidelines and jeer as I typically do, but in general doesn’t seem like any solutions for another few years, from anyone. Interestingly difficult problem, this “driving” thing.

It’ll be interesting to look back in 10-20 years and see the revolutionary/evolutionary changes that enabled autonomy. Training of some form seems to be the way to go, but we seem to be a few breakthroughs short of a Happy Meal. Who knows how much inference will be needed!!! Going to be a very interesting decade or two.
 
#192
Zeekr is launching the 007 in China with free NZP and front lidar:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1740029192878923882

But this tweet has me confused about NZP. So there is a version of NZP that is powered by Mobileye and a version of NZP that Zeekr is doing in-house? And there is NZP for highway and NZP for city?

The Zeekr in-house NZP did not show me impressed abilities in the launch. How will it end up while it keeps burning more and more money? Why not keep focusing on Mobileye? @ZEEKRGlobal @Mobileye $MBLY
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Based on the videos showed in the 007 launch, NZP(in-house version) only available in Smart Driving models because it needs LIDAR and 2 Orin X chips. And city NZP will be rolled out beta test in June, 2024. Basic model of Zeekr 007 only has one Orin X chip and no highway NZP.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1740032813292982532
 
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#193
Xiaomi announced their EV, the SU7 with Pilot, their version of Tesla FSD beta.

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www.youtube.com

Xiaomi EV Technology Launch

Join the #XiaomiEVTechnologyLaunch LIVE now!
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#194
XPeng today announced it has successfully rolled out its XNGP Advanced Driver Assistance System (ADAS) for customers in 27 more cities, including Tianjin, Chengdu, Xi'an, Wuhan and Changsha. To date, XNGP is available for all the XPENG Max trim customers in a total of 52 cities. By early 2024, XNGP will be available in a total of 200 cities across China.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1740722993402462607

XPENG - Official Website | XPENG Motors – XPENG (Global)

Welcome to the official website of XPENG Motors. Discover our newest models, customize your smart e-vehicle and drive today the car of tomorrow.
www.heyxpeng.com www.heyxpeng.com

and some edited clips of XNGP features:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1740735113204474085
 
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diplomat33 said:
XPeng today announced it has successfully rolled out its XNGP Advanced Driver Assistance System (ADAS) for customers in 27 more cities, including Tianjin, Chengdu, Xi'an, Wuhan and Changsha. To date, XNGP is available for all the XPENG Max trim customers in a total of 52 cities. By early 2024, XNGP will be available in a total of 200 cities across China.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1740722993402462607

XPENG - Official Website | XPENG Motors – XPENG (Global)

Welcome to the official website of XPENG Motors. Discover our newest models, customize your smart e-vehicle and drive today the car of tomorrow.
www.heyxpeng.com www.heyxpeng.com

and some edited clips of XNGP features:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1740735113204474085
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I really can't wait for Tesla to get into China and then when those comparisons happen with XNGP and others we will see how good FSDbeta is.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1740951640901927255
 
#197
diplomat33 said:
I think this news belongs here:

FAW and Mobileye plan to begin mass production of vehicles equipped with the Mobileye SuperVision solution by the end of 2024.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/18zfx3y
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I had no idea who FAW was ... had to follow down.

cnevpost.com

FAW to begin mass production of models with Mobileye assisted driving system in 2024

FAW and Mobileye plan to start mass production of SuperVision-equipped models by the end of 2024, and vehicles with the hands-off, eyes-off Chauffeur technology are scheduled for mass production by the end of 2025.
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_ FAW Group, one of China's largest automotive groups, has entered into a partnership with autonomous driving solutions company Mobileye, with plans to begin carrying the latter's assisted driving system in production vehicles next year.
_ FAW has entered into a strategic partnership with Mobileye, which the two signed on September 13 in Changchun, Jilin, where FAW is headquartered, the Israeli developer of autonomous driving technology announced yesterday.
_ The two companies will build new models based on Mobileye's SuperVision and Chauffeur platforms, according to the autonomous driving company.
_ FAW will integrate Mobileye's SuperVision driver-assistance feature into key models under its Hongqi brand.
_ Next, the two companies will also integrate the Mobileye Chauffeur platform, which enables hands-off, eyes-off smart driving features in specific road environments, into the Hongqi E701 model.
_ The two companies plan to begin mass production of vehicles equipped with the Mobileye SuperVision solution by the end of 2024, with vehicles equipped with Mobileye Chauffeur technology scheduled for mass production by the end of 2025.
_ FAW's other brands will also gradually adopt Mobileye's solutions, and the two companies will discuss the feasibility of further deepening their collaboration, according to a Mobileye press release.
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#198
Big news from Mobileye:

NEW: Large Western automaker awards Mobileye with a series of production design wins!Mobileye’s automated driving technology will roll out in 17 new car models, across multiple global brands, starting in 2026. The 3 key platforms provided are:• Mobileye SuperVision™ – our most advanced premium ADAS solution• Mobileye Chauffeur™ – eyes-off, hands-off driving in specified domains• Mobileye Drive™ – fully autonomous driving for robotaxis & MaaS operationsAll systems will use the Mobileye EyeQ™6H systems-on-chip designed for powerful but efficient computing to integrate all sensing and REM crowdsourced mapping with safe driving policy.Read the press release to learn more: https://bit.ly/47rve8T
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1744374196342280336
 
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Bitdepth said:
Mobileye roadmap/portfolio

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WOW. Thanks. That is a very detailed roadmap. I imagine Shashua will share this slide later today at his press conference and share more details.

So they hope to launch the first eyes-off (all roads) and driverless next year? That is quite ambitious but I like it!!
 
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