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Craigslist: Tesla Roadster - Founder's Series - $62000 (oakland piedmont / montclair)

Discussion in 'Tesla for Sale' started by wiztecy, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. wiztecy

    wiztecy Active Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California, United States
  2. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

    Nov 10, 2011
    "19 of 27"
  3. doug

    doug Administrator / Head Moderator

    Nov 28, 2006
    Stanford, California
    Priced to move. I'm guessing Tesla didn't give him a very good trade-in value.
  4. Bearman

    Bearman Member

    Nov 17, 2011
    That's is a good deal, lucky him/her whoever buys it.
  5. TEG

    TEG TMC Moderator

    Aug 20, 2006
    Silicon Valley
    #5 TEG, Jan 25, 2013
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2013
    Those are not the original wheels in the photos...

    I remember when it was (on consignment?) at Hammer auto in Los Altos a while back.
    Probably not the original owner, but it does look impecably maintained.
  6. MAPC

    MAPC #158

    Dec 3, 2011
    Woodside, CA
    You would have a hard time imagining how low Tesla's trade in numbers are.
  7. adiggs

    adiggs Active Member

    Sep 25, 2012
    Portland, OR
    This is speculation on my part, but I suspect that right now, those trade in numbers are getting lower over time. Not that the offer made specifically to MAPC or other individuals are getting smaller, but I have a hunch (no inside source - just a hunch based on how markets work) that the offers Tesla makes on Roadsters a month from now will be no better than the ones currently extended, and I suspect they will be lower than the offers being extended right now.

    My rationale has to do with the size of the market to acquire a Roadster (it exists, but it doesn't seem like it will ever be "big" or "robust" - it's the nature of a small, exotic, sports car), the usability limitations of the car, and most importantly - the number of Roadsters that are currently available for sale.

    My own entirely ad hoc and unscientific view of the Roadster market is that something like 1-5 Roadsters sell on a monthly basis. If there are 3-7 Roadsters available, then life works well all around - buyers find cars, sellers find a buyer. With more like 10-20 posted right now, an unknown number of sellers who haven't initiated the sales process, and an unknown number of Roadsters in Tesla's inventory for (eventual) resale, there may be more like 6-12 months of Roadster inventory available right now. It's good of Tesla to act as a market maker and ensure that cars can always move at some price, but with more and more Roadsters accumulating, Tesla (IMHO) are pretty much forced to lower what they offer over time, until the backlog starts getting worked off.

    It's the nature of a high level of supply in a market, with a steady demand.

    If anybody sees the state of things differently, or with a different nuance, I'd love to hear what I've missed and/or how I'm wrong.
  8. pharma5

    pharma5 Roadster F#25

    Nov 22, 2011
    central NJ
    #8 pharma5, Feb 2, 2013
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2013
    Some small nuances, but general agreement. I often saw 10-20 known listings over a year ago while looking for mine. Prices were higher. Why?

    All the Roadsters in existence (as a population) were a year younger for one thing, i.e., fewer miles, more warranty time left... those mean more to first-time EV shoppers. And no Model S on the market then as an alternative. Now there are a lot of switches going on, so there's lots of pressure. When the Model S really gets out there in big numbers, and the wait time drops, and many used S's become available, we will see a better measure of decisions for one car vs. the other.

    Model X and Gen III, imho, will jockey mostly with the Model S, and then the next test will be whatever new version of a roadster that Tesla puts out later. I am hoping that car will stake out very different territory on the Gen III platform (e.g., convertible version of Gen III sedan), leaving the original Roadster with a very unique position at it's 10 year anniversary. But then I may be a little biased...:wink:

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