FirstInTown
Member
Been almost 2 years on the refresh. The yoke, not a problem anymore for new sales as new Refreshes default to Wheel. I'm use to yoke, but still thinks it's inferior to the wheel. No advantage and questionable safety in an emergency situation where have to turn fast. Like sliding on ice.
The lack of stalks is still unforgivable. Hate it. After coming from my Volt or Wife's etron, I find myself waving my fingers in air looking for a turn signal stalk. Just outright decontenting, money saving, stupid.
I have USS but would think it sucks w/o. I REALLY miss my Wife's Etron 360 degree overhead camera view. We can't have in a $120k car? (list price on mine back in the day) Nope, because the refresh didn't include moving any cameras from the Raven location, so both cars are missing front bumper camera that would be required.
Would I go back? I remember the road noise on the Raven being alot more than refresh. Both my Volt and Etron are quieter than the Refresh, so I wouldn't go to a car with even more wind and tire noise than now, so no Raven for me.
The lack of stalks is still unforgivable. Hate it. After coming from my Volt or Wife's etron, I find myself waving my fingers in air looking for a turn signal stalk. Just outright decontenting, money saving, stupid.
I have USS but would think it sucks w/o. I REALLY miss my Wife's Etron 360 degree overhead camera view. We can't have in a $120k car? (list price on mine back in the day) Nope, because the refresh didn't include moving any cameras from the Raven location, so both cars are missing front bumper camera that would be required.
Would I go back? I remember the road noise on the Raven being alot more than refresh. Both my Volt and Etron are quieter than the Refresh, so I wouldn't go to a car with even more wind and tire noise than now, so no Raven for me.