diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
If what Musk was saying was really ”FSD no geofence feature complete”, he should have said that, instead of yes to ”Level 5 no geofence feature complete”. That would have allowed Tesla to re-define what it all (FSD) means. Referring to Design Studio then would have been much more reasonable. But he said Level 5 and that means a not just reliability but a specific set of features implemented.
And let’s not be naive, he knew what he was doing when he said yes to Level 5. He has been waving the Level 5 card since October 2016 when he announced AP2 as Level 5 capable hardware.
Elon talks about L5 because he believes that FSD will be L5. The ODD will be L5 and he believes that with all the features that Tesla is working on, that our cars will eventually be able to completely drive themselves on any road exactly like the SAE L5 definition that I quoted says.
SAE J3016 specifically allows for Level 4/5 prototypes that are Level 4/5 even without the reliability to be autonomous so that is no excuse.
So I guess when Tesla releases "feature complete L5" at the end of the year, our cars will be L5 even with a safety driver? I can't wait to drive my L5 Tesla. LOL.
Yes, obviously. That is what feature complete and Level 5 mean by their dictionary and SAE J3016 definitions respectively.
Well, I don't believe that Tesla will meet your interpretation of "feature complete L5" by end of this year. I believe Tesla will do traffic light and stop sign and intersections by end of this year. And I believe that Tesla will release those features to the public. But I don't believe that Tesla will complete all the hundreds of features necessary to have what you call "feature complete L5". Because by your interpretation, "feature complete L5" requires hundreds of features that Tesla has not done yet.