Escort MAX 360 mount options and questions

[aus]

Anyone know why there's a coating on the glass?
Why does Tesla have it and other's done?
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[Madartist]

I recently purchased the Escort Max 360. While I cannot test the range of the radar detector as compared to anther car, I can say that it does work. I have it mounted to the right of the rear view mirror. If you purchase the straight cord, It is possible to hide the power cord along the windshield, down the A pillar underneath the rubber rain strips, under the floor mat of the passenger foot well, and then plug it into the cigarette lighter. I was able to do all this without pulling out any trim pieces.

By the way, for anyone wanting to take off the radar detector to store inside the car, this case from Best Buy fits it perfectly.

 

[Chris TX]

Anyone know why there's a coating on the glass?
Why does Tesla have it and other's done?
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The metallic coating is on the glass to reject a large amount of infrared radiation. The side affect of this metallic coating is that it also blocks all but the strongest radar signals and almost all speed laser, which is infrared. It's so strong of a shielding effect, that tollway transponders have a problem working. The problem is so bad that the newer (post-8/2015) cars now have a shielding cutout to the right of the rearview mirror only for toll tags. Unfortunately, that area is painted black so mounting a radar detector there is also an exercise in futility.

Additionally, if you have metallic/ceramic TINT in your car, the Max360 is going to have a hard time seeing the side and rear radar/laser.

This is directly from Escort:

Another link: Radar Detector: New Passport MAX. Any users? | Forums | Tesla Motors

http://www.radarbusters.com/Will-My-Radar-Detector-Work-Through-Windshield-s/2500.htm

 

[aus]

The metallic coating is on the glass to reject a large amount of infrared radiation. The side affect of this metallic coating is that it also blocks all but the strongest radar signals and almost all speed laser, which is infrared. It's so strong of a shielding effect, that tollway transponders have a problem working. The problem is so bad that the newer (post-8/2015) cars now have a shielding cutout to the right of the rearview mirror only for toll tags. Unfortunately, that area is painted black so mounting a radar detector there is also an exercise in futility.

Additionally, if you have metallic/ceramic TINT in your car, the Max360 is going to have a hard time seeing the side and rear radar/laser.

This is directly from Escort:
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Another link: Radar Detector: New Passport MAX. Any users? | Forums | Tesla Motors

http://www.radarbusters.com/Will-My-Radar-Detector-Work-Through-Windshield-s/2500.htm

Appreciate the info!!
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[rmsargent]

I recently purchased the Escort Max 360. While I cannot test the range of the radar detector as compared to anther car, I can say that it does work. I have it mounted to the right of the rear view mirror. If you purchase the straight cord, It is possible to hide the power cord along the windshield, down the A pillar underneath the rubber rain strips, under the floor mat of the passenger foot well, and then plug it into the cigarette lighter. I was able to do all this without pulling out any trim pieces.

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By the way, for anyone wanting to take off the radar detector to store inside the car, this case from Best Buy fits it perfectly.

Is this solution still working well for you? My delivery is tomorrow and I will probably set mine up the same way if you haven't had any problems.

 

[Chris TX]

Is this solution still working well for you? My delivery is tomorrow and I will probably set mine up the same way if you haven't had any problems.

Please see This Post before making that decision.

 

[rmsargent]

Please see This Post before making that decision.

Thanks for reminding me of that. I should have clarified, I already have the Passport Max (with the standard coil cord) in my current car and will not purchasing a new detector. Figured I might as well get this cord for $30 and try it out in the Tesla. Otherwise the radar becomes a total waste to me.

 

[Chris TX]

Thanks for reminding me of that. I should have clarified, I already have the Passport Max (with the standard coil cord) in my current car and will not purchasing a new detector. Figured I might as well get this cord for $30 and try it out in the Tesla. Otherwise the radar becomes a total waste to me.

The quicker you put that thing on eBay, the better :tongue:

I have a Bel Pro 500 that I'm using in my Volt, and I'm crossing my fingers that I can use it in the Model ≡ when it comes out. Hopefully, there's a small patch of windshield that has the metallic coating cut out.

 

[rmsargent]

The quicker you put that thing on eBay, the better :tongue:

I have a Bel Pro 500 that I'm using in my Volt, and I'm crossing my fingers that I can use it in the Model ≡ when it comes out. Hopefully, there's a small patch of windshield that has the metallic coating cut out.

What causes the shielding cutout not to work on a Model S with recent production date?

 

[Chris TX]

What causes the shielding cutout not to work on a Model S with recent production date?

The shielding cutout has black paint over it. It works fine with toll tags, but zero amount of laser will get through it. You might get some radar through it, but if you put the 360 in that location, it can't see the rear of the car, and the roofline and A-pillars and rear view mirror block most of the sides. The Max360 is really meant to be mounted much lower on the windshield which renders it pretty useless on the Model S.

 

[whitex]

What causes the shielding cutout not to work on a Model S with recent production date?

The cutout is small and as mentioned elsewhere it's not transparent in more recent cars. Of course this seems to change from car to car, so maybe you'll get a car that will work fine for you (on my VIN25xxx seemed to work fine, VIN84xxx not at all (there cutout is there, so the toll pass works, but way to high and too small for the Valentine One radar detector to work well).

 

[Chris TX]

The cutout is small and as mentioned elsewhere it's not transparent in more recent cars. Of course this seems to change from car to car, so maybe you'll get a car that will work fine for you (on my VIN25xxx seemed to work fine, VIN84xxx not at all (there cutout is there, so the toll pass works, but way to high and too small for the Valentine One radar detector to work well).

That's odd. I have 26xxx and there are absolutely no film cutouts on my windshield. I can follow the metallic film all the way around the edge of the windshield.

 

[rmsargent]

The shielding cutout has black paint over it. It works fine with toll tags, but zero amount of laser will get through it. You might get some radar through it, but if you put the 360 in that location, it can't see the rear of the car, and the roofline and A-pillars and rear view mirror block most of the sides. The Max360 is really meant to be mounted much lower on the windshield which renders it pretty useless on the Model S.

The cutout is small and as mentioned elsewhere it's not transparent in more recent cars. Of course this seems to change from car to car, so maybe you'll get a car that will work fine for you (on my VIN25xxx seemed to work fine, VIN84xxx not at all (there cutout is there, so the toll pass works, but way to high and too small for the Valentine One radar detector to work well).

Ah, that makes sense Chris.

Mine is VIN 123xxx, so fingers crossed they've done something to fix this recently. I take delivery tomorrow and plan on trying it out before I get rid of the radar detector.

 

[Chris TX]

Ah, that makes sense Chris.

Mine is VIN 123xxx, so fingers crossed they've done something to fix this recently. I take delivery tomorrow and plan on trying it out before I get rid of the radar detector.

If you view the windshield at an angle in the sunlight, you'll notice an orange/pearl-like film embedded in the glass. Find the edge of the glass and you'll see the edge of the film. Follow that around the rear view mirror and you'll see where the pocket is. All the newer ones I've seen have black paint over the cutout. Good luck!

 

[FlatSix911]

I have been through this issue a few times with the Model S and the new cars still have the IR film.
As a longtime Valentine 1 user I was not a happy camper and have been looking for remote solutions.
The best alternative I have found is using the Waze app for Tesla ... a great app for situational awareness

View Waze Incidents on the Tesla browser

Waze for Tesla Incidents and Supercharger Traffic

Is this solution still working well for you? My delivery is tomorrow and I will probably set mine up the same way if you haven't had any problems.

Please see This Post before making that decision.

The quicker you put that thing on eBay, the better :tongue:

I have a Bel Pro 500 that I'm using in my Volt, and I'm crossing my fingers that I can use it in the Model ≡ when it comes out. Hopefully, there's a small patch of windshield that has the metallic coating cut out.

What causes the shielding cutout not to work on a Model S with recent production date?

The shielding cutout has black paint over it. It works fine with toll tags, but zero amount of laser will get through it. You might get some radar through it, but if you put the 360 in that location, it can't see the rear of the car, and the roofline and A-pillars and rear view mirror block most of the sides. The Max360 is really meant to be mounted much lower on the windshield which renders it pretty useless on the Model S.

 

[Madartist]

Is this solution still working well for you? My delivery is tomorrow and I will probably set mine up the same way if you haven't had any problems.

My Escort 360 appears to be working when mounted in this location. However, what I cannot say is what effect, if any, the windshield has on the range of the detector.

 

[rmsargent]

My Escort 360 appears to be working when mounted in this location. However, what I cannot say is what effect, if any, the windshield has on the range of the detector.

Thanks. I'll try mine out over the next week or so and see how it compares.

 

[whitex]

My Escort 360 appears to be working when mounted in this location. However, what I cannot say is what effect, if any, the windshield has on the range of the detector.

You could test it - go park facing of a motion sensor (automated doors at at stores or malls), far enough so that the signal strength is 50% or less, note the signal strength. Then open the window and stick the radar detector out. Note signal strength.

 

[jjen@EDH]

Hi,
I like to follow up on this thread, specifically for the AP2 MS (built after Oct 2016).

1. Is it correct for me to assume the problematic metallic film on the windshield causing range issue is no longer a concern for the AP2 MS as there's no visible film or cutout on the windshield?
2. If so, has anyone successfully mounted an Escort MAX 360 under the rear view mirror with the power hardwired tapped into the mirror mount/based?
3. If so, would you kindly share your success story and all the additional accessories (power core, mounting solution, etc) purchased for this implementation preferably with some detail pictures?

Thanks a ton in advance!

 

[Stirthepot]

1. Correct, radar detector will work fine with the new windshield.
2. I could not get my 9500ix or my Max 2 to work off the power on the mirror or the unused plug behind the grill in the headliner so i don't think the 360 will work either. I will be running a direct wire by tapping the accessory fuse in the passenger side footwell fuse panel