H.265 Exactly Means What?

[redgt]

thought I had HW 2.5 but looking at some dashcam videos they say H.265 ? Does that mean 3.0 ? I'm confused

it is a inventory car that I can still lookup the options on ev cpo and it says 2.5. built 3/19

needed the hvec plugin download to even see the videos

 

[TiggerTime]

H.265 refers to the video encoding being used and not your hardware.

High Efficiency Video Coding - Wikipedia

 

[Watts_Up]

thought I had HW 2.5 but looking at some dashcam videos they say H.265 ?
Does that mean 3.0 ? I'm confused
it is a inventory car that I can still lookup the options on ev cpo and it says 2.5. built 3/19
needed the hvec plugin download to even see the videos

If you have Codec MPEG-H H.265, you have FSD 3.0:
If you have Codec MPEG-H H.264, you have FSD 2.5:

A simple way to determine the Video Coding on a video
is to download the VLC media player and use the menu: Tools -> Code Information

 

[ab26]

If you have Codec MPEG-H H.265, you have FSD 3.0:
If you have Codec MPEG-H H.264, you have FSD 2.5:

A simple way to determine the Video Coding on a video
is to download the VLC media player and use the menu: Tools -> Code Information

Are we sure that if we have H.265, it is HW3? What's the source of this information.

 

[sixela]

Pretty sure, yes.

The source is us peons comparing videos with others after we've also checked part numbers of the HW computer behind the glove box with the official EU parts catalogue.

Someone recently smashed my side window in an attempt to steal “the iPad” at the middle of the dashboard, so I know the codec of my videos, and I have HW2.5. It's not H.265 even with 2019.20.1.

It's not impossible that they might also implement H.265 on HW2.5 in future firmware levels, though.

 

[ab26]

Pretty much. The source is us peons comparing videos with others after we've also checked part numbers of the HW computer behind the glove box.

Someone recently smashed my side window in an attempt to steal “the iPad” at the middle of the dashboard, so I know the codec of my videos, and I have HW2.5 It's not H.265 even with 2019.20.1.

Ok, the reason I ask is this -> I have a June 2019 Model 3. My video format is HEVC. However, when I perform an API call (using teslajson), the option code shows up as APH3 (which is suppose to be 2.5).

That's why I am confused as to what to believe.

 

[TiggerTime]

I haven't paid attention to which codec mine is recording in but with H.265 being higher compression rates it would make since that both 2.5 & 3 are recording ther same. No reason 2.5 shouldn't be able to encode in H.265.

 

[sixela]

@ab26 the API call reports the same for HW2.5 and HW3 on Model 3, which is why people started to look for other indirect ways...

 

[OPRCE]

I haven't paid attention to which codec mine is recording in but with H.265 being higher compression rates it would make since that both 2.5 & 3 are recording ther same. No reason 2.5 shouldn't be able to encode in H.265.

HW2.5 would be able to encode h.265 via new software, but that would be very compute intensive (while driving at least) on the already tapped-out card, whereas HW3 has a dedicated h.265 encoder in silicon on each SoC, as explained by Bannon on Autonomy Day,
to be used for the reversing camera display, dashcam and clip-logging to cloud.

It seems to me most likely that HW2.5 will never do h.265.

 

[hcdavis3]

@ab26 the API call reports the same for HW2.5 and HW3 on Model 3, which is why people started to look for other indirect ways...

You’re right six. Teslafi can’t be relied on to show the correct hardware. My car is a July 2018 build so it for sure has 2.5.

 

[redgt]

So I popped off a small panel to the right of the glovebox and can clearly see a 3.0 computer

Thanks to daerik on YT for posting all the AP computer videos. Can easily tell the differences

I printed my option codes when I ordered the car and it shows APH3 which is 2.5

Oh well doesn't mean much at the moment

 

[Ron S]

My Model S was an inventory car with manuf. date of 3/19, purchased on 5/27, with EAP, not FSD. My dashcam saved video is "MPEG-H PART 2/HVEC (H.265)(HVC1). Looks like the H265 theory MIGHT be incorrect!

 

[mxnym]

My Model S was an inventory car with manuf. date of 3/19, purchased on 5/27, with EAP, not FSD. My dashcam saved video is "MPEG-H PART 2/HVEC (H.265)(HVC1). Looks like the H265 theory MIGHT be incorrect!

All vehicles have the same hardware based on manufacturing date, the FSD option is a software switch / license that will eventually require the newer hardware. Based on this article your 3/19 manufacturing date is just as likely to support the theory as it is to disprove it.

 

[Ron S]

So I also took off the panel and could clearly see the computer board with the HDMI and the USB-C connectors which 2.5 does not have I then went up to the Tesla service center and he verified I did have HW3 computer, the -00-F production board. SO.... some earlier manufacture date cars DOES have HW3

 

[Tim-in-CA]

Now that V10 is out, can anyone confirm that your still getting video in H.265? I had FSD hw3 upgrade last week an am at 32.11 and video is h.264. Thanks.