Ok. That’s understandable. Thank you for the clarification. Guess it’s better to sit back and watch.
Np.
One thing you are correct on though, is at a traditional car dealer, "making a sale" is how they put food on the table, so the "salesperson" has an incentive to both make the sale, and also make it for as much money as possible (since they usually make commission on the profit).
The better you are at negotiating at a traditional dealer, the less profit there is for that salesperson, and the less that salesperson tends to "bend over backwards" for you, unless you are dealing with a fleet manager who makes money on units sold, vs individual vehicles or something.
Conversely, at Tesla, they would prefer you order in the app, and never talk to anyone again until someone chats you to tell you a vin is assigned, and discusses scheduling your delivery date with very little flexibility in the date. The upside of this process is that there is no "finance office" where someone is trying to sell you an extended maintenance plan, or tire warranties, or anything else.
The downside, is ANYTHING outside the box is either "no" or like moving a mountain. The easiest way to "deal with" Teslas order process is to be ok with ordering online and no contact, and to minimize anything thats an exception. No "can I get the car moved over here to this other delivery center?" no "Oh, my trade in, im not happy with the price, can we discuss that? (the answer is "no, you cant"), etc.
Its not for everyone, frankly, but for me, I very much enjoy the "no finance person / sales person" experience, even though I am quite good at negotiating car deals the traditional way. Being good at it doesnt mean I like it (I dont).