Initiative 976

[N8DGR8]

How are you planning to vote on Initiative 976?

I support most of the project that Initiative 976 would stop funding. However, I do not support the flat fees on electric and hybrid cars. The fees are higher than what I used to pay in gas taxes. If there are going to be fees, the fees need to phase out based on the age of the car.

I like the idea of helping pay for public charging infrastructure, but the projects do not seem well implemented. Locations are odd, and the charging prices very from reasonable to gouging. Why should it cost $21 for $3 worth of electricity when my taxes paid for the installation of the equipment? The oversight and management of the state funds could be better.

Interested to get others opinions before voting.

 

[im.thatoneguy]

It doesn't matter how you vote, the supreme court would call it unconstitutional just like the last 5 times Eyman tried this *sugar*.

 

[ladysbff]

Auburn, Tacoma and Olympia join a growing list of cities that oppose Tim Eyman's I-976 - NPI's Cascadia Advocate

 

[RedMS]

It doesn't matter how you vote, the supreme court would call it unconstitutional just like the last 5 times Eyman tried this *sugar*.

Interesting how our state operates. Don’t like something? Have the court overturn it in the favor of whoever has deeper pockets.

 

[im.thatoneguy]

I think you meant "Don't like a voter approved contract? Sorry, it was approved, you can't commit to buy something and then say you won't pay for it later".

 

[RedMS]

I’ll be voting

I think you meant "Don't like a voter approved contract? Sorry, it was approved, you can't commit to buy something and then say you won't pay for it later".

That’s laughable but I won’t debate that here. I guess we should just bend over and pay the yearly tax on our inflated car values and accept the deceiving wording of that ST3 fiasco.

 

[RedMS]

Hell yes from me and not because I’m some anti tax crusader:
Sleazy/misleading working on ST3 initiative
Unfair/outdated vehicle valuation system
Will never use the dumb light-rail system

 

[Foxhound199]

Emphatically voting no to this and any other garbage Eyman sends our way.

 

[S4WRXTTCS]

I don't support anything from Eyman.

 

[wenkan]

Those huge investments on public transit will become outdated shortly after robotaxi online. Everyone will have their own best stop location and route instead of being crowded together. Also tax on market price should be reasonable, but trusting kbb too much seems a potential risk.

 

[im.thatoneguy]

Robotaxis fix light rail they don't make it obsolete. You take a robo taxi from your home to light rail and then mass transit 200 people across the bridge downtown who then disperse in robo taxis.

Trains are like fiber. Fast but hard to get where you live. Robotaxis are like 5G. Short range but solve the "last mile" issue of fiber.

 

[PWlakewood]

Emphatically voting no to this and any other garbage Eyman sends our way.

So you like paying for vehicle licensing that uses false and misleading calculations?

 

[PWlakewood]

I don't support anything from Eyman.

Read above question

 

[Kuhz]

I just got tabs renewal for my ‘17 S75D for $1,150. Based on my calculations, it’s being valued at about $75k (More than I paid for it new). I’ll let that speak for itself.

 

[Yarder]

I just got tabs renewal for my ‘17 S75D for $1,150. Based on my calculations, it’s being valued at about $75k (More than I paid for it new). I’ll let that speak for itself.

Wow! That's insane. The TV ads are blatantly misleading.

 

[PWlakewood]

Wow! That's insane. The TV ads are blatantly misleading.

Yes they are which is why it needs to pass so they cant continue to rip us off.

 

[ChrisH]

Yes they are which is why it needs to pass so they cant continue to rip us off.

$659 for my model 3. And I think that’s me getting lucky they used a $35,000 valuation

 

[N8DGR8]

I just got tabs renewal for my ‘17 S75D for $1,150. Based on my calculations, it’s being valued at about $75k (More than I paid for it new). I’ll let that speak for itself.

Electric cars are getting gauged in my opinion. Extra sales tax, extra weight charges, extra RTA fees, plus $200 no matter how much you drive. I don’t want transportation to go unfunded, but there needs to be a rate structure that does not discourage electrification at every step.

 

[Kuhz]

Electric cars are getting gauged in my opinion. Extra sales tax, extra weight charges, extra RTA fees, plus $200 no matter how much you drive. I don’t want transportation to go unfunded, but there needs to be a rate structure that does not discourage electrification at every step.

Forget about the electric car extras, I’m semi-ok with those. What pisses me off is that I’m paying tax on 20k extra vs. what KBB (and market) says my car is worth.

 

[Araman0]

For those that won’t directly use the light rail (and BRT buses) in ST3, these programs will directly help reduce traffic on the roadways you use. They will literally remove hundreds of thousand of other cars from the highways per day when fully built out, (regardless of if the cars are robotaxi or not). The region is predicted to grow by another million people in the coming decade, and the question is do we want to just add those million drivers to our existing traffic, or do we want to have at least some mitigation funded and in place to deal with that first?

Strong “no” on 976 as traffic is already bad enough.