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Love Hyper Seal But Can't Find Comparisons...

joebruin77

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My favorite sealant is OptiCoat's Hyper Seal. This is a ceramic-infused spray sealant and is made by Optimum, the maker of the popular ONR rinseless car wash.

I was hoping to see how Hyper Seal compares in terms of gloss, hydrophobic properties, and protection to other spray sealants. But I am having trouble finding reviews and comparisons. Has anyone come across reviews or comparisons they can share? Has anyone used Hyper Seal and compared it to other sealants?

BTW, I think the lack of consumer comparisons of Hyper Seal is due primarily to the fact that, since it is from Optimum's professional line of products OptiCoat, you have to buy it directly from the manufacturer. You can't buy it on Amazon or other such online retailers.

Any help is welcome.

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joebruin77
 

73Bruin

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My favorite sealant is OptiCoat's Hyper Seal. This is a ceramic-infused spray sealant and is made by Optimum, the maker of the popular ONR rinseless car wash.

I was hoping to see how Hyper Seal compares in terms of gloss, hydrophobic properties, and protection to other spray sealants. But I am having trouble finding reviews and comparisons. Has anyone come across reviews or comparisons they can share? Has anyone used Hyper Seal and compared it to other sealants?

BTW, I think the lack of consumer comparisons of Hyper Seal is due primarily to the fact that, since it is from Optimum's professional line of products OptiCoat, you have to buy it directly from the manufacturer. You can't buy it on Amazon or other such online retailers.

Any help is welcome.

Thank you,
joebruin77
I just got a blue MY and had it a front PPF with Xpel Ultimate and a ceramic coating with Opt-Coat Pro+. At this point it looks great (in the sun it pops).

I received a very strong recommendation from the detailer to use ONR and Hyper-Seal when washing my car. After almost 2 years, do you still use and recommend Hyper-Seal and ONR? I jumped the gun and purchased a lot of Chemical guys stuff before I had the MY PPF'd and coated. Definitely not a waterless wash system.
 
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joebruin77

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I just got a blue MY and had it a front PPF with Xpel Ultimate and a ceramic coating with Opt-Coat Pro+. At this point it looks great (in the sun it pops).

I received a very strong recommendation from the detailer to use ONR and Hyper-Seal when washing my car. After almost 2 years, do you still use and recommend Hyper-Seal and ONR? I jumped the gun and purchased a lot of Chemical guys stuff before I had the MY PPF'd and coated. Definitely not a waterless wash system.

Always happy to help a fellow Bruin!

My original post was from Sept of 2019. Back then, I was using ONR and Hyper Seal. Today, I still use ONR for my rinseless washes but I no longer use Hyper Seal. Hyper Seal is a great ceramic spray sealant, but there are two main reasons why I stopped using it - cost and scent. Hyper Seal is rather expensive ($50 for 16 oz). IMO there are other quality ceramic spray sealants on the market that work well and cost a lot less. Also, I did not care for Hyper Seal's scent - it is mildly "chemically". It is not overwhelming or horrible, but there are other sealants that have much more pleasant scents and are therefore more pleasing to work with.

As for what I currently use instead, I am a big fan of Technician's Choice Ceramic Detail Spray and two products from Xtreme Solutions 1) Poly Seal (ceramic spray sealant that also has wax in it) and 2) Topper (ceramic-infused topper that can be used as a drying aid to add gloss and slickness). TC CDS costs about $40-$45 a gallon. So you can buy a gallon of TC CDS for less than the cost of 16 oz of Hyper Seal. Xtreme Solutions PolySeal comes in different sizes. The 16oz bottle costs $16.98 (again, a lot less than the $50 for HyperSeal). Once I use up my PolySeal, I plan on trying Griots Garage 3 in 1 Ceramic Spray Wax or the new Turtle Wax Graphene Flex Wax. I have heard good things about both.

Since you have Opti-Coat Pro Plus on your car, it may make sense to stay within the Opticoat/Optimum family of products and stick with Hyper Seal. Although it is expensive, it is also true that a little goes a long way. As long as you do not over apply it, one bottle can last you 6 months to a year.

One last suggestion - since you have the ceramic coating, you may want to compare ONR to a ceramic infused rinseless wash. For example, Mckees 37 SiO2 Rinseless Wash or Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Rinseless Wash are both supposed to be really good products for ceramic coated cars. Then again, if you use a ceramic-infused spray sealant or topper as a drying aid after each wash, then it may not be necessary to use a ceramic-infused wash.
 
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73Bruin

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Always happy to help a fellow Bruin!
Thank you for the details. The detailer I went to was very particular on how I should wash the car. First, he suggested I buy a small electric power washer and a 2 gallon bug/garden sprayer. The power washer was to be used with regular water to do a prerinse. I am then to mix the ONR with a gallon of distilled water and use it to spray off the tap water. I was then to wipe each car panel down in one direction only and then use another towel and a spritz of the hyper seal to dry that panel. I was questioning this procedure, so I called Opti-coat and talked to their "product" expert.

The guy said that I could my existing stuff from Chemical guys or their similar products but said the No Rinse wash had a lot of advantages. The big one being I could wash the car in the garage out of the sun. I also wouldn't be violating my complex's rules against it or future drought restrictions. Bottom line I bought in and ordered both the No Rinse Wash and Hyper-Seal. The white spot on the front is the license plate wrap which I think came out great as well

Here is a picture of my Y
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joebruin77

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Thank you for the details. The detailer I went to was very particular on how I should wash the car. First, he suggested I buy a small electric power washer and a 2 gallon bug/garden sprayer. The power washer was to be used with regular water to do a prerinse. I am then to mix the ONR with a gallon of distilled water and use it to spray off the tap water. I was then to wipe each car panel down in one direction only and then use another towel and a spritz of the hyper seal to dry that panel. I was questioning this procedure, so I called Opti-coat and talked to their "product" expert.

The guy said that I could my existing stuff from Chemical guys or their similar products but said the No Rinse wash had a lot of advantages. The big one being I could wash the car in the garage out of the sun. I also wouldn't be violating my complex's rules against it or future drought restrictions. Bottom line I bought in and ordered both the No Rinse Wash and Hyper-Seal. The white spot on the front is the license plate wrap which I think came out great as well

Here is a picture of my YView attachment 655518

Looks great, sounds like you have a great wash routine.

The only other factor to consider to minimize scratches or swirls is your drying towels. When you wash your drying towels, never use fabric softener (despite the name, fabric softener actually makes the tiny ends of microfiber towels get hard, which then induce scratches next time you use them on the car). And always dry your towels on the lowest heat setting possible. Higher drying temps can cause microfibers to harden and get stiff, which again induces scratches.
 

73Bruin

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o_O The routine I described is what he wants me to do. Haven't done it yet. Somewhat frustrated because I bought a Chemical Guys foamer, a half gallon of car wash, microfiber towels, and a 3rd party microfiber mit with a 46" handle. The guy at Opti-coat implied that this car wash was basically the same as their car wash that require a rinse. The only difference is need to be much more vigilant about drying to avoid water spots given the hardness of the water. FWIW my opti-coat order seems to have disappeared into the ether. No follow-up email, or credit card charge (via paypal).
 

joebruin77

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o_O The routine I described is what he wants me to do. Haven't done it yet. Somewhat frustrated because I bought a Chemical Guys foamer, a half gallon of car wash, microfiber towels, and a 3rd party microfiber mit with a 46" handle. The guy at Opti-coat implied that this car wash was basically the same as their car wash that require a rinse. The only difference is need to be much more vigilant about drying to avoid water spots given the hardness of the water. FWIW my opti-coat order seems to have disappeared into the ether. No follow-up email, or credit card charge (via paypal).

LOL....I also have a CG foam gun and traditional car soap. I find that maybe once every 12-18 months my car is so dirty that only a foaming, traditional wash is safe. But for my weekly washes, using a rinseless wash like ONR, McKees37 N-914, or Wolfgang Uber Rinseless works really well and I save a ton of water by doing so.
 

73Bruin

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Thanks once again for the follow-up advice. Do you do a prerinse with water (with or without a pressure washer) to get the easily removed dirt off first? Do you dilute the rinseless wash with distilled water, tap water or something else? Given that you are in Encino, I assume you are getting mainly LA Aquaduct water from the Owens Valley which isn't as hard as the Colorado River water that we get in Torrance.
 
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TypeRx

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Do you do a prerinse with water (with or without a pressure washer) to get the easily removed dirt off first? Do you dilute the rinseless wash with distilled water, tap water or something else? Given that you are in Encino, I assume you are getting mainly LA Aquaduct water from the Owens Valley which isn't as hard as the Colorado River water that we get in Torrance.

I also use ONR regularly but will do a full foam and soap/bucket wash every couple weeks. If the "butt" of my car has a nice layer of dust/dirt, which is frequently accumulates, I will rinse that area down (regular hose, no pressure washer needed) with water before doing an ONR wash. Its a matter of personal preference I guess. Another smart thing to do is to pre-soak the panel with an ONR solution either in a spray bottle or garden sprayer.

I'm in Orange County but had my hose spigot connected to our softened water line, so thankfully don't have to deal with ultra-hard water. I was mad because last weekend I parked at a hotel in AZ and the sprinklers showered my car overnight. Luckily I had some ONR in a spray bottle and was able to dissolve and wipe away forming hard water spots before they really set.
 

73Bruin

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I also use ONR regularly but will do a full foam and soap/bucket wash every couple weeks. If the "butt" of my car has a nice layer of dust/dirt, which is frequently accumulates, I will rinse that area down (regular hose, no pressure washer needed) with water before doing an ONR wash. Its a matter of personal preference I guess. Another smart thing to do is to pre-soak the panel with an ONR solution either in a spray bottle or garden sprayer.

I'm in Orange County but had my hose spigot connected to our softened water line, so thankfully don't have to deal with ultra-hard water. I was mad because last weekend I parked at a hotel in AZ and the sprinklers showered my car overnight. Luckily I had some ONR in a spray bottle and was able to dissolve and wipe away forming hard water spots before they really set.
The trick about keeping a diluted spray bottle of ONR in the car was what Opti-coat's product specialist told me to do as well. Thank you for the confirmation and the advice. I really didn't want to buy a pressure washer.
 

joebruin77

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Thanks once again for the follow-up advice. Do you do a prerinse with water (with or without a pressure washer) to get the easily removed dirt off first? Do you dilute the rinseless wash with distilled water, tap water or something else? Given that you are in Encino, I assume you are getting mainly LA Aquaduct water from the Owens Valley which isn't as hard as the Colorado River water that we get in Torrance.

I usually do not pre-rinse. But like you mentioned earlier, I too have a 2-gallon lawn sprayer from Home Depot and I pretreat the car, especially the lower dirtier sections, with ONR first. If the car is really dirty, instead of pretreating with ONR, you can pretreat with Optimum's Power Clean, which is their all purpose cleaner. Just be sure to use the correct dilution strength and it is safe for paint. Be aware that if you pretreat with Power Clean, it will likely strip and remove any sealants or waxes.

Here is a helpful video on how to wash a really dirty car using ONR as taught by Ivan with Optimum Technologies. He was Opitmum's head guru until he retired a couple years ago. Interestingly, he says that if your car is coated with a ceramic coating, you can pre-rinse using a hose or pressure washer. But he also said that if your car is not coated, it is better to first pretreat with ONR or Power Clean, let it dwell to encapsulate the dirt, and then pre-rinse. If you blast dirt off of a non-coated car, it will act like a sand blast and scratch your clearcoat.


I do not use distilled water. I find that my water is not that hard. I wash early in the morning and out of the sun. I do not have any issues with mineral deposits or water spots.
 

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