HookBill
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Perhaps they could become more popular with the rank and file if every donut shop in town had a fast DC charger in the parking lot.
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Yeah. Just got to have hard points in front for a winch and push bar.Yup, I see no reason why they wouldn't be interested, especially if things go well at the LAPD with their Tesla. I came into the thread to post the pic of LAPD's Model S that they brought out for Night on Broadway back in January:
I've seen police service vehicles in the US that were Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Chevrolet Malibu, Dodge Avenger/Charger, Ford Fusion... And YES, these cars are REPLACING the old Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis/LTD fleet. The Model ☰ may well be smaller on the outside than some, but will likely be just as large on the inside as current popular choices.Sorry, I don't think the Model 3 will work as a police car in the US (at least not in any significant volume other than maybe for PR purposes). It's too small for US police tastes (even the full size vehicles that are replacing the Crown Victoria, police find cramped). It is about as likely as a Cadillac ATS, Lincoln MKC or MKZ as a police car.
There are also Mercedes-Benz, Volvo, and AUDI police cars in service worldwide. Regionally, the Model ☰ will be an AMERICAN car -- thus it should be eligible for consideration by municipal fleets across the nation, just like those that supposedly hail from Detroit. Most police vehicles are NOT 'interceptors'. Those are almost always limited series vehicles. The 'focus' is on meeting the transportation needs for anyone who might decide to buy the car. This, so that Tesla Motors may accelerate the advent of sustainable transport by bringing compelling mass market electric cars to market as soon as possible.Yes, there are some examples of 3 series being used as police cars in other countries, but part of that is regional supplier relations. I don't think it will be that easy to break into that (nor will Tesla be interested in getting their cars through the certification process and producing a "pursuit" or "interceptor" version). It is much better to focus on the consumer market.
Just looking at the Camry, the front passenger dimensions (head/shoulder/hip/leg) are practically the same as the Model S. The 3 series however has significantly lower shoulder room (it doesn't list hip room). I find it unlikely the 3 will be just as large inside.I've seen police service vehicles in the US that were Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Chevrolet Malibu, Dodge Avenger/Charger, Ford Fusion... And YES, these cars are REPLACING the old Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis/LTD fleet. The Model ☰ may well be smaller on the outside than some, but will likely be just as large on the inside as current popular choices.
I put the two paragraphs separately for this reason. Tesla might have a regional advantage in the US, but its size is small for this market. In other markets used to smaller cars, Tesla does not have such regional advantage. That was my main point.There are also Mercedes-Benz, Volvo, and AUDI police cars in service worldwide. Regionally, the Model ☰ will be an AMERICAN car -- thus it should be eligible for consideration by municipal fleets across the nation, just like those that supposedly hail from Detroit. Most police vehicles are NOT 'interceptors'. Those are almost always limited series vehicles. The 'focus' is on meeting the transportation needs for anyone who might decide to buy the car. This, so that Tesla Motors may accelerate the advent of sustainable transport by bringing compelling mass market electric cars to market as soon as possible.
If Tesla repeats the nonsense with the small 12V battery, the Model 3 would not be used regularly as a police car.
I think they'd opt for cheaper cars and I'd personally be very upset if my town or state bought them.
Sorry, I don't think the Model 3 will work as a police car in the US (at least not in any significant volume other than maybe for PR purposes). It's too small for US police tastes (even the full size vehicles that are replacing the Crown Victoria, police find cramped). It is about as likely as a Cadillac ATS, Lincoln MKC or MKZ as a police car.
Yes, there are some examples of 3 series being used as police cars in other countries, but part of that is regional supplier relations. I don't think it will be that easy to break into that (nor will Tesla be interested in getting their cars through the certification process and producing a "pursuit" or "interceptor" version). It is much better to focus on the consumer market.
Perhaps you have never seen the movie 'Beverly Hills Cop II' (1987)...? It features the BMW 3-Series as police cars in Beverly Hills. It wasn't 'move fake' either, I worked in Century City, adjacent to Beverly Hills back then and those were their actual, ordinary, everyday cop cars back then. The Model S is already being used as 'fleet vehicles' by a TAXI company that services Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam. You may expect to see both Model X and Model ☰ fulfilling similar roles in years to come.Neither Cops or Bad Guys will be using M3's. Tesla would only devalue their brand image by selling M3's as Fleet vehicles.
The motor pool will still have plenty of work trying to keep their 25-year-old Chevrolet Caprice and Ford Crown Victoria fleet alive. They'll be happy to have Tesla's Rangers come by to handle the Model ☰. That way they can get back to playing spades, solitaire, backgammon, or poker.Also I double Tesla would allow anybody but their own SC's work on these cars for the foreseeable future.
All Tesla Motors would have to do is consult with aftermarket vendors of light bars, push bars, winches, and whatnot to provide the proper wire harnesses and hard points on the frame to receive those off-the-shelf components. It shouldn't be any harder than on any other car. As for cooling... The car operates at room temperature. Suspension and brakes? I am fairly certain that a Model ☰ will rather easily out-corner and out-brake any LTD, Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis, Diplomat, Gran Fury, or Caprice the police could set against them... Let alone the modern day Fusion, Malibu, and Charger.Besides size, police cruisers have high demands for 'heavy duty' parts: cooling, suspension, brakes, etc. I don't see Tesla or aftermarket vendors investing in this because the cost of the car would increase greatly.