Seriously. Just press the brake a tad harder after reaching to a complete stop. It’s so easy and such a great solution.
Some people are so stubborn and can’t adapt to good solutions. Stuck in their old ways that D MUST go only forward. Sheesh
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My Model 3 loves to Roll
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Seriously. Just press the brake a tad harder after reaching to a complete stop. It’s so easy and such a great solution.
Some people are so stubborn and can’t adapt to good solutions. Stuck in their old ways that D MUST go only forward. Sheesh
chronopc
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I've driven a ton in San Francisco and even in a car with an automatic transmission the car will roll back if the hill is steep enough. The only way to prevent roll back is to simultaneously step on the accelerator while releasing the brakes. It's much easier to just use the Hold function.
Yup. Me too. SF has some good hills. In a traditional manual it’s tough lol. My cousin rolled back half a cars length when cars didn’t have auto hold features. In a E46 ///M3. She servived.
Fully agree. I drove manuals almost exclusively for 20 years, and miss them tremendously, but contrary to what some think, I feel that "Creep Off" doesn't mimic any of the good attributes of manual transmissions: the fun of rowing through the gears, down shifting, rev matching, all of which are not applicable to an EV. Creep Off mimics only the less desirable qualities of a manual - namely, the risk of rolling on an incline, and potentially less safe or less precise maneuvering at low speed.
I therefore prefer Creep to be turned on for the Model 3. In my stick shift cars, I could move forward or backward very slowly just by expertly manipulating the clutch, with my right foot hovering over the brake for safety. If Creep is off in the Model 3, the only way to inch forward is to press the accelerator, and then your right foot has to move quickly to the brake if necessary, which is less safe than hovering your right foot over it. (And no, I don't view using your left foot on the brake as a safe alternative.)
For stops on inclines, I find that Hold works very well, and indeed it engages almost automatically when the car senses that it's on a slope, with virtually no extra pressure on the brake pedal required. I do wish that it would always engage as easily; my last car had a dual-clutch automated manual, and Hold always engaged when I came to a complete stop, without any extra pressure on the brake pedal needed. This could make very low speed maneuvering (e.g., pulling into a very tight spot) a bit of a pain, as I had to hit the gas to get it to disengage, but there was a button on the console that allowed me to temporarily disable it.
Knightshade
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As you have discovered, the car already has that feature as standard. “Vehicle Hold”. Press firmly on the brake pedal when not moving, moving slowly or just as you are stopping. . It works great.
Because with a stick, your left foot is only controlling the clutch. With a two-pedal car, if you use your left foot to operate the brake, in a panic situation, you might inadvertently push both pedals to the floor.
I am pretty sure in a two pedal push, brake wins and the car will complain to you. So not really a problem.
Knightshade
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Yeah, I expect you're right, considering that accelerator pedals in even ICE cars tend to be electronically rather than physically connected to the throttle these days. Still, old habits die hard, I guess. I learned on a stick, with my left foot dedicated to the clutch, or idle when I didn't need to touch the clutch. I don't see it moving to the brake anytime soon.
Heck, I've done all three pedals pushed during a car club slalom event. Completely lost track of where my feet were and pushed everything down. Worked fine to stop me. Shouldn't be a problem in just about any car since brakes are stronger than engines even without special two-pedal accelerator lockout.
JeffK
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Encountered a use case just today, there are some train tracks on a steep hill. Train was coming and the car in front of me had pulled too far forward. It backed up and instead of me having to put the car into reverse to back up as well, I simply let off the brake a bit and slid backwards a foot or two then engaged hill hold. It was so much more convenient then having to switch to reverse.
Good one JeffK - while I would have attempted reverse - you did find a good use for the rollback feature!
Seems like a lot of drivers learned on stick here- it might just take some getting used to.
Tried Creep mode - and it seems similar to driving a regular automatic ice car. Didnt find a case when it rolled back. It did remove the HOLD feature though when selected.
Would still prefer a toggle in the menu that would be better in the hilly area where I live.
Seems like a lot of drivers learned on stick here- it might just take some getting used to.
Tried Creep mode - and it seems similar to driving a regular automatic ice car. Didnt find a case when it rolled back. It did remove the HOLD feature though when selected.
Would still prefer a toggle in the menu that would be better in the hilly area where I live.
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