@M3 2018 good luck with Tesla....what repairs are they actually doing, do you know? I've been following noise reduction threads and it seems to me that Noico in the trunk and doors has minimal impact. The door seals as reported by the OP seem to be the best option followed by the RPM wind seal. I did test a 1.6 dB decrease from the RPM seal (concrete freeway at 74mph), but I need to replicate it a few times and take an average to be sure.
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Reducing noise and keeping the door sills clean
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Holding up extremely well!! Actually, the doors now close extremely well. There's more "thump" in the close and with all the crazy rain we had the door sills are in pretty good shape. Water still gets in and out of there but it's 100 times less dirty. I drover over 1,000 miles and have been through some serious rain storms and flooded roads. (Drove to/from San Diego/Las Vegas in downpours.)
Thanks Brad for all your efforts, much appreciated.
We like hearing that the doors close better with a thump and there is less dirt.
The bigger overall question is whether it quiets cabin noise overall? If you have already shared, maybe I missed it. Would you be willing to give your honest opinion:
What is the overall impact on cabin noise on the highway with the outer seals?
We like hearing that the doors close better with a thump and there is less dirt.
The bigger overall question is whether it quiets cabin noise overall? If you have already shared, maybe I missed it. Would you be willing to give your honest opinion:
What is the overall impact on cabin noise on the highway with the outer seals?
Noise? Yes, it definitely helps. I want more noise reduction though. Not sure what to try next. There's a lot of glass, so I'm thinking there's a limit to what we can accomplish unless we can somehow replace with thicker glass.
I have now done all the above. Each one made some difference. Here is my opinion (I didnt do any dB measurements) in order of the most effective to the least.
Noico on all doors
Window tint
Tesla front sun shade
RPM Tesla wind kit
Foam in trunk shelf opening
Noico in frunk/trunk
Door seals (made doors harder to close)
Hi All,
Thanks to Chuckie and Brad for their efforts and for sharing their findings with fellow owners.
Anyone in the Seattle area want to do the door seals and door noicoing? If so PM me.
It would be far more productive and fun to do this with a fellow Model 3 owner.
Interesting that Chuckie thinks the door seals help with noise the least of the items on his list. Wondering if we should skip door seals if it makes it harder to close the doors. Do you still recommend the outer seals? Would you do it over again? Do you think you can successfully uninstall them? Was it worth it?
I have window tint, I have the front sun shade. I need to install RPM wind kit, doors seals and door noicoing.
Thanks!
Thanks to Chuckie and Brad for their efforts and for sharing their findings with fellow owners.
Anyone in the Seattle area want to do the door seals and door noicoing? If so PM me.
It would be far more productive and fun to do this with a fellow Model 3 owner.
Interesting that Chuckie thinks the door seals help with noise the least of the items on his list. Wondering if we should skip door seals if it makes it harder to close the doors. Do you still recommend the outer seals? Would you do it over again? Do you think you can successfully uninstall them? Was it worth it?
I have window tint, I have the front sun shade. I need to install RPM wind kit, doors seals and door noicoing.
Thanks!
I think the seals could block more noise if u put them closer to the door edge to make a tighter seal. This issue is that it’s a very fine balance between a tight seal and a door that must be slammed really hard to close properly. I have been continually making adjustments especially on the rear doors for a couple of weeks now. With my kids and even other adults who get into my car for the first time, I now have to check each door before leaving. If I can’t find a proper fit, I may just remove the top part of the seal. I think the lower part does not affect the door closing.
Thanks for the inspriation @BradS! I just installed the seals and made a video. Will test tomorrow against the baseline from my other sound deadening videos!
Hi Brad,
To me, since most of the highway noise is from the tires and road, have you tried or considered sound proofing the wheel walls using dense material like the video below?
Do you think it is a good idea?
That may help. I haven't tried anything that extensive yet. I think any further noise reduction is going to have to come from improvements to the glass area. (Which I have no idea how to improve short of thicker glass.)
I'm sure it goes without saying that this should not be required for any new car, let alone one at this price point. But I suppose the real question would be, what is Tesla's official response? And is the level of noise folks are hearing considered "normal?"
I'm wondering if it's just a larger scale build issue or if some folks have a higher bar set for expectations. I've been in a RWD Model 3 and the level of tire/road/wind noise appeared to be fairly average. But that was a short drive and just one vehicle. When comparing to other vehicles, engine noise is only going to drown out so much. Especially when cruising on the highway.
In either case, hopefully everybody is bringing this up to Telsa directly before making modifications. Both the dealer and contacting their corporate offices directly. It will be harder to make them fix the issue (if there is one) if folks just provide their own patches and fixes.
I'm wondering if it's just a larger scale build issue or if some folks have a higher bar set for expectations. I've been in a RWD Model 3 and the level of tire/road/wind noise appeared to be fairly average. But that was a short drive and just one vehicle. When comparing to other vehicles, engine noise is only going to drown out so much. Especially when cruising on the highway.
In either case, hopefully everybody is bringing this up to Telsa directly before making modifications. Both the dealer and contacting their corporate offices directly. It will be harder to make them fix the issue (if there is one) if folks just provide their own patches and fixes.
I think the noise level is acceptable for a car of this class. I'm used to higher end vehicles where the noise level is much lower. I'm trying to get to 750 status. Also, I think I should mention that the Model 3 is as quiet as our 750 until you get over 65 MPH. That's when the tide turns and is my personal objective to reduce. Reduce the noise at 65+ MPH.
I bought the front and the back. I didn't notice any difference in the dB measurements that I made with the sunshades installed. However, subjectively the sound seems a bit less sharp in some way. The front fits fine but not that impressed with the rear. It sags a bit, has some wrinkles, and depending on the angle of the sun the visibility out of the rear is compromised. Looking through the front sunshade gives a weird geometric effect and I kind of missed the view out of the front sunroof. I took them out.
There are some threads where people have put Dynamat in the wheel wells and they didn't seem to indicate there was much change in the noise. Not sure how Dynamat compares to the material in this video though.
Glamisduner
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I don't think this is a good test at all. If you want to block noise just use closed cell foam, you won't be able to hear *sugar*.
However with road noise comes vibration, which is reduced by adding weight /mass to the thing that is vibrating.
I would love to try these different techniques, but my door panels rattle so bad that I feat if I apply stuff and the problem is with the panels or clips themselves tesla will void warranty
Right now I swear I can hear every clip in the passenger door rattling going over ruff terrain. There is also creaking noises every time I'm on and off the accelerator. I think I just have a ton of body flex and door panel flex I have been in 4 times for rattles and I need to book my 5th appointment but they want a recording of the noise. Guess I need to find a sound recorder or some way to mount a phone / gopro so I can make a decent video.