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Daily Roundup: 24 November
Posts from 24 Nov 00:01 GMT to 24 Nov 23:59 GMT
Votes as of 25 Nov 19:13 GMT

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ggr
45 | Link ➤

24 Nov 19:21
This question keeps coming up. So let's see if I can help to either clarify or further muddy the waters.

There are three kinds of funds in the world:
1. Index funds, which (in the context of this discussion) track the S&P 500 index as exactly as possible. These funds have no discretion about what a...
JBRR
37 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:49
some clarification from Shirley Meng on Elon's 50 cent comment.

https://twitter.com/YingShirleyMen1/status/1331276061351452672?s=20
Curt Renz
36 | Link ➤

24 Nov 19:36
Craig Johnson is a managing director and technical strategist at Piper Sandler (formerly Piper Jaffray). He was a regular guest of mine on my old TV show, and still sends me his newsletters. In early 2013 he recommended TSLA, which led to my first purchase at $38 ($7.60 post-split).

Below is what C...
Curt Renz
35 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:17
My Brokerage's Newsfeed - this afternoon:

CFRA REITERATES STRONG BUY OPINION ON SHARES OF TESLA, INC. 1:43 pm ET November 24, 2020 (CFRA) Print We increase our 12-month price target by $100 to $650, implying a '22 P/E of 113x. Our adjusted EPS estimates remain $2.30 for '20, $3.50 for '21, and $5.7...
JBRR
31 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:46
Source: EV-Volumes - The Electric Vehicle World Sales Database
JBRR
30 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:23
{no text}
Artful Dodger
26 | Link ➤

24 Nov 20:38
Here is Call "Open Interest" x 100 (to represent # shares, not Contracts) through Christmas:

Nov 27: 20,195,400

Dec 04: 6,284,200

Dec 11: 5,280,100

Dec 18: 24,616,400

Dec 24: 4,352,300
Dec 31: 2,892,500
We can see quickly that there is only elevated levels of shares subject to being 'Called' o...
generalenthu
26 | Link ➤

24 Nov 19:43
Volume is anemic and is not even sufficient for proper delta hedging to take place. I don't think any buying has started in earnest.

A 35 point move needs perhaps about 55 million traded shares to facilitate delta hedging and as of this writing we have traded only 42 million shares. Interesting tim...
Todesbuckler
24 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:51
Norway finally received a new car shipment. 112 Tesla registered yesterday compared to ~200 quarter-to-date.
All Model 3 were LR from the US. Presumably, new SR Model 3 for Norway will be shipped from Giga Shanghai as well.

Source:
Tesla Registration Stats
FrankSG
23 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:25
Don't disagree with any of this, except for the fact that you use present tense. TSLA volume is way too low right now for any of this to be currently going on. If there are buyers, it's definitely not anybody big. I think the main reason for the rise from $410 to $550 has been some speculation, and ...
Baumisch
22 | Link ➤

24 Nov 12:12
Thank you for uploading - I put it on my Youtube:

UPDATE: Still being processed ... come on YT go go go !
Curt Renz
20 | Link ➤

24 Nov 23:33
Despite TSLA's charge to record highs, ARK has not trimmed any of its TSLA shares since it last did so on Thursday.
Curt Renz
20 | Link ➤

24 Nov 1:15
No trimming of Tesla by ARK today despite the big up move.
UkNorthampton
18 | Link ➤

24 Nov 12:08
Tesla: Elon Musk verkündet neues Modell speziell für Europa und Batteriefabrik - WELT

Elon could have asked me (even better, ask an Italian living in an ancient hilltop town). Just to note that Berlin has massive amount of space compared to many European cities & towns.

Elon The Disruptor: "I was ...
JBRR
17 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:59
*JAPAN CONSIDERS ADDITIONAL SUBSIDIES FOR EV PURCHASES, NHK SAYS
Buckminster
17 | Link ➤

24 Nov 20:15
17 mins in Elon states Semi will use structural battery pack. Sounds like this change only (rather than chemistry) is what has delayed the Semi and most likely Roadster as it has an architectural impact.
Cherry Wine
15 | Link ➤

24 Nov 18:36
$65M in sell orders at $550. Don’t know what it was at earlier.

EDIT: $40M.

EDIT 10:44 AM PT: Sell orders at $550 are getting whittled down. $37.5M...order book starting to get buy-side heavy. This can always change on the fly though.

EDIT 10:45 AM PT: Aaaaand it's gone.
Artful Dodger
15 | Link ➤

24 Nov 1:08
After-action Report: Mon, Nov 23, 2020: (Full-Day's Trading)

Headline: "TSLA Jumps the Gate setting 4 New ATHs"

Traded: $26,306,498,329.04 ($26.31B)
Volume: 50,288,248
VWAP: $523.11

Close: $521.85 / VWAP: 100.48%
TSLA closed ABOVE today's Avg SP
TSLA MaxPain: $470

Mkt Cap: TSLA / TM $494.662B / ...
Buckminster
14 | Link ➤

24 Nov 20:52
Worth watching this. Radar seems to be able to pickup not only kerbs etc. but even painted lines all on it's own! Amazing redundancy.
Curt Renz
14 | Link ➤

24 Nov 17:34
Benzinga - 10 minutes ago: How The Biden Administration Could Benefit EV Players In The US

Excerpt:

Are Tax Incentives Ahead? Restoration of the EV tax credit for Tesla Inc is central to steepening the demand adoption curve for consumers in the U.S., Ives said.
FrankSG
14 | Link ➤

24 Nov 14:54
Check out NIO, XPEV, LI. All three are down significantly on huge volumes.

TSLA seems slightly affected by this as well, but not nearly as severely. Macros are also down a tad since open.

EDIT: Looks like there might be a further rotation away from growth/tech into stocks that benefit from vaccine...
JBRR
14 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:34
Musk: 500KM range semi truck fully loaded is trivial
Causalien
13 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:00
I can't turn off the analysis part of my brain.

That person's tweets reads like his need to be right out weight his need to make money.

Part of the reason why I've managed to side step disaster is that I am quick to admit to myself I am wrong. With no one to report to, I do not have to pamper my e...
Tes La Ferrari
13 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:13
California allows companies to charge for autonomous car rides

Just in time for the latest FSD beta release...
Curt Renz
12 | Link ➤

24 Nov 18:28
Electrek - this morning: Tesla Semi electric truck to have up to 621 miles of range, says Elon Musk - Electrek

Top 5 Authors - Informative + Helpful


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Sancho
62 | Link ➤

24 Nov 11:04
I spoke to a lot of investment professionals over the years, and about 95% held a negative view of TSLA as an investment. Stunningly, that view persisted into the beginning of this year, despite everything that Tesla was achieving in plain sight.

Any professional who got TSLA wrong really should b...
clmason
61 | Link ➤

24 Nov 23:25
I was not expecting 1100% gains back in 2011.

Sharing this for education purposes:

Sorry, I don't have anyone else to celebrate with besides you all. Congrats Team!!!
Curt Renz
57 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:00
TSLA +6.4%

Again, all-time intraday and closing highs.
Prunesquallor
52 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:00
I would be on the outside looking in if not for :
1) My wife asking about Tesla cars back in Nov 2018
2) Me researching the car
3) Me buying M3 Dec 2018
4) Me finding this thread April 2019
5) Me investing starting in May 2019
6) Me very happy Nov 2020
Krugerrand
39 | Link ➤

24 Nov 14:04
And the point everyone who thinks government to the rescue in Germany is that Tesla is about to become ‘German’.

I continue to be amazed that there are still people ‘here’ stuck in a box of conventional thinking. As if the innovation and disruption and extraordinary accomplishments of Tesla only a...
Mike Smith
38 | Link ➤

24 Nov 2:43
Elon on Twitter: "FSD Beta 5 coming out in a few days. Improvement should be significant."

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1331062680921235456
computerchuck
27 | Link ➤

24 Nov 13:25
Cheers to the longs
ZeApelido
25 | Link ➤

24 Nov 17:24
Today TSLA reached within $0.01 / share of me reaching a double 'naire. WTF can't believe this actually happened in 2020.
Cherry Wine
24 | Link ➤

24 Nov 17:36
Yeah dude. I was facing a margin call and had a brokerage balance of $13,000 in June of...could it really be, last year? To now holding over a million dollars. Boggles. The. Mind.
Tim S
23 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:43
My advice... buy a Model Y now (especially if you are currently driving an ICE). It will be a while before you can test drive a Cybertruck. The Y will hold its value better than just about any car. It will be the best car you've ever owned. You will save a ton on gas. You can always trade it in for ...
StealthP3D
21 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:08
There would be no point in doing that unless they just want to speculate like (presumably) they can do at any time. Different funds within a firm are comprised of different owners or holders of the fund. Every transaction needs to happen at current market rates. There are exceptions but that doesn't...
Artful Dodger
20 | Link ➤

24 Nov 18:52
HAMMER TIME!

Cheers!
FrankSG
20 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:25
Don't disagree with any of this, except for the fact that you use present tense. TSLA volume is way too low right now for any of this to be currently going on. If there are buyers, it's definitely not anybody big. I think the main reason for the rise from $410 to $550 has been some speculation, and ...
Artful Dodger
20 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:45
Pre-Market High: $541.50 +19.65 +3.77% (05:33:02 AM)

It seems pretty consistent that we're in a $20/day 'melt-up'.

Cheers!
Nocturnal
19 | Link ➤

24 Nov 20:28
I'm beginning to go over my year end charitable donations. It's been such a great year for me financially I'll feel like a heel if I don't greatly ramp that up.
MC3OZ
19 | Link ➤

24 Nov 4:47
While I agree, there is a limit to what governments can do.

They can't force customers, particularly overseas customers, to buy inferior cars at inflated prices.

They can protect the local industry via tariffs and subsidies, but often the end result is the local industry becomes dependent, and a b...
Chunky Jr.
18 | Link ➤

24 Nov 15:52
I'm usually on the outside looking in on opportunities like TSLA. It's fun to be on the inside for once.
Causalien
18 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:00
I can't turn off the analysis part of my brain.

That person's tweets reads like his need to be right out weight his need to make money.

Part of the reason why I've managed to side step disaster is that I am quick to admit to myself I am wrong. With no one to report to, I do not have to pamper my e...
RobStark
17 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:37
New all time high and passing $500B in Market Cap calls out for reposting celebratory meme.
StealthP3D
17 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:45
I think this video makes clear that FSD is on a robust path, not just a fancy parlor trick that appears to work but will fail whenever everything is not perfect. I was particularly impressed with the way it became more cautious and tentative when the various cameras were selectively blocked.

This s...
FrankSG
17 | Link ➤

24 Nov 1:40
I wonder if the pace of the TSLA move-up has anything to do with buyers not wanting to get ahead of the upper bollinger band too much. I don't really trade on TA or anything, but I've noticed from @Papafox posts this year, that pretty much every run up did not get too far ahead of the upper bollinge...
Nocturnal
16 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:03
We are watching game theory in practice. Many funds etc. want or need to buy the stock. If those buyers were able to cooperate and trust each other they would all buy slowly so as not to make the price spike and cost them more money. That works until one of them starts to get a little greedy (think ...
Paul_SF
16 | Link ➤

24 Nov 14:36
{no text}
Baumisch
16 | Link ➤

24 Nov 12:12
Thank you for uploading - I put it on my Youtube:

UPDATE: Still being processed ... come on YT go go go !
MartinAustin
15 | Link ➤

24 Nov 13:58
CNBC's coverage of Tesla... doh!!!

1) there is an EV wave and since Tesla is an TV stock, it's going up. Look at NIO. TSLA obviously caught up in that.
2) Elon Musk is now the world's 2nd richest man, wooo look at that.
3) does it make you nervous? it's so high...

While completely silent on:
1) S&...

Top 5 Authors - Loved + Liked


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ZeApelido
47 | Link ➤

24 Nov 23:37
I have calculated that if the current trend continues for the next 173 trading days, I will become the wealthiest person in the world.
AimStellar
45 | Link ➤

24 Nov 11:58
I downloaded and am fine ... except all my TSLA shares were liquidated and I now have a portfolio full of Nikola and Halliburton??
TheTalkingMule
43 | Link ➤

24 Nov 13:54
I don't want to shock or upset any of you, but CNBC hasn't mentioned TSLA in it's "stocks making the biggest moves in pre-market" today. Unclear why. Perhaps it's just a clerical error?
JBRR
41 | Link ➤

24 Nov 8:23
"How do you end up the worlds 2nd richest man?" "Start as the richest man in the world and bet on Blue Origin"

"how do you end up as the world 3rd richest man?" "Start as the richest and bet on hydrogen and porche taycan"
MC3OZ
40 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:56
Converting to official units :-,TSLA is now up over 2.5 Gordons in the past week.
BlackS
31 | Link ➤

24 Nov 20:54
Being in tech myself, one silver lining to the pandemic has been to demonstrate beyond doubt that people CAN work from home effectively and efficiently --- except for TMC members on days like today
BlackS
25 | Link ➤

24 Nov 23:04
Found out why $TSLA is up AH....based on the pure ridiculousness of this article:

Is Tesla About to Get Crushed by General Motors?

I think GJ wrote this secretly and published it under someone else's name
Right_Said_Fred
24 | Link ➤

24 Nov 11:24
A total of 8 posts on colonoscopy were just flushed out. All it took was some laxative prep. Don't let your accounts get flushed out too.
rdalcanto
23 | Link ➤

24 Nov 13:24
Dude, do you want to get rich or not....
ZeApelido
22 | Link ➤

24 Nov 22:23
Just remember, Adam Jonas' range for TSLA stock last year was $2 - $100.

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Sancho
66 | Link ➤

24 Nov 11:04
I spoke to a lot of investment professionals over the years, and about 95% held a negative view of TSLA as an investment. Stunningly, that view persisted into the beginning of this year, despite everything that Tesla was achieving in plain sight.

Any professional who got TSLA wrong really should b...
clmason
61 | Link ➤

24 Nov 23:25
I was not expecting 1100% gains back in 2011.

Sharing this for education purposes:

Sorry, I don't have anyone else to celebrate with besides you all. Congrats Team!!!
Curt Renz
59 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:00
TSLA +6.4%

Again, all-time intraday and closing highs.
ZeApelido
53 | Link ➤

24 Nov 23:37
I have calculated that if the current trend continues for the next 173 trading days, I will become the wealthiest person in the world.
ggr
53 | Link ➤

24 Nov 19:21
This question keeps coming up. So let's see if I can help to either clarify or further muddy the waters.

There are three kinds of funds in the world:
1. Index funds, which (in the context of this discussion) track the S&P 500 index as exactly as possible. These funds have no discretion about what a...
Prunesquallor
53 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:00
I would be on the outside looking in if not for :
1) My wife asking about Tesla cars back in Nov 2018
2) Me researching the car
3) Me buying M3 Dec 2018
4) Me finding this thread April 2019
5) Me investing starting in May 2019
6) Me very happy Nov 2020
Mike Smith
49 | Link ➤

24 Nov 2:43
Elon on Twitter: "FSD Beta 5 coming out in a few days. Improvement should be significant."

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1331062680921235456
AimStellar
48 | Link ➤

24 Nov 11:58
I downloaded and am fine ... except all my TSLA shares were liquidated and I now have a portfolio full of Nikola and Halliburton??
MC3OZ
47 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:56
Converting to official units :-,TSLA is now up over 2.5 Gordons in the past week.
Curt Renz
47 | Link ➤

24 Nov 19:36
Craig Johnson is a managing director and technical strategist at Piper Sandler (formerly Piper Jaffray). He was a regular guest of mine on my old TV show, and still sends me his newsletters. In early 2013 he recommended TSLA, which led to my first purchase at $38 ($7.60 post-split).

Below is what C...
TheTalkingMule
47 | Link ➤

24 Nov 13:54
I don't want to shock or upset any of you, but CNBC hasn't mentioned TSLA in it's "stocks making the biggest moves in pre-market" today. Unclear why. Perhaps it's just a clerical error?
JBRR
47 | Link ➤

24 Nov 8:23
"How do you end up the worlds 2nd richest man?" "Start as the richest man in the world and bet on Blue Origin"

"how do you end up as the world 3rd richest man?" "Start as the richest and bet on hydrogen and porche taycan"
JBRR
44 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:49
some clarification from Shirley Meng on Elon's 50 cent comment.

https://twitter.com/YingShirleyMen1/status/1331276061351452672?s=20
JBRR
44 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:23
{no text}
FrankSG
43 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:25
Don't disagree with any of this, except for the fact that you use present tense. TSLA volume is way too low right now for any of this to be currently going on. If there are buyers, it's definitely not anybody big. I think the main reason for the rise from $410 to $550 has been some speculation, and ...
Krugerrand
42 | Link ➤

24 Nov 14:04
And the point everyone who thinks government to the rescue in Germany is that Tesla is about to become ‘German’.

I continue to be amazed that there are still people ‘here’ stuck in a box of conventional thinking. As if the innovation and disruption and extraordinary accomplishments of Tesla only a...
BlackS
41 | Link ➤

24 Nov 20:54
Being in tech myself, one silver lining to the pandemic has been to demonstrate beyond doubt that people CAN work from home effectively and efficiently --- except for TMC members on days like today
Right_Said_Fred
39 | Link ➤

24 Nov 11:24
A total of 8 posts on colonoscopy were just flushed out. All it took was some laxative prep. Don't let your accounts get flushed out too.
Baumisch
38 | Link ➤

24 Nov 12:12
Thank you for uploading - I put it on my Youtube:

UPDATE: Still being processed ... come on YT go go go !
Curt Renz
37 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:17
My Brokerage's Newsfeed - this afternoon:

CFRA REITERATES STRONG BUY OPINION ON SHARES OF TESLA, INC. 1:43 pm ET November 24, 2020 (CFRA) Print We increase our 12-month price target by $100 to $650, implying a '22 P/E of 113x. Our adjusted EPS estimates remain $2.30 for '20, $3.50 for '21, and $5.7...
JBRR
33 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:46
Source: EV-Volumes - The Electric Vehicle World Sales Database
Sancho
32 | Link ➤

24 Nov 12:02
For those of you just waking up, you’re not going to need to drink any coffee this morning.
Causalien
31 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:00
I can't turn off the analysis part of my brain.

That person's tweets reads like his need to be right out weight his need to make money.

Part of the reason why I've managed to side step disaster is that I am quick to admit to myself I am wrong. With no one to report to, I do not have to pamper my e...
Artful Dodger
30 | Link ➤

24 Nov 20:38
Here is Call "Open Interest" x 100 (to represent # shares, not Contracts) through Christmas:

Nov 27: 20,195,400

Dec 04: 6,284,200

Dec 11: 5,280,100

Dec 18: 24,616,400

Dec 24: 4,352,300
Dec 31: 2,892,500
We can see quickly that there is only elevated levels of shares subject to being 'Called' o...
generalenthu
29 | Link ➤

24 Nov 19:43
Volume is anemic and is not even sufficient for proper delta hedging to take place. I don't think any buying has started in earnest.

A 35 point move needs perhaps about 55 million traded shares to facilitate delta hedging and as of this writing we have traded only 42 million shares. Interesting tim...

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TravelFree
16 | Link ➤

24 Nov 19:01
I need to sell some because Tesla is taking over my portfolios. I hold it in all my accounts. Need to decide what to invest the cash in. Thinking more NIO. My first sell limit is $580 too.
rdalcanto
2 | Link ➤

24 Nov 23:53
I would not be the least bit surprised if the stock goes from ~700-800 back to 450 after inclusion is complete. People who have been front running will take their profits and run. Shorts will pile on, etc. I hope it doesn't happen, but I'm mentally prepared for it and will be ready to trade for it (...
MikeAtkinson
2 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:38
Probably more that it is using map data. An AI like this will spew out its best "guess" even when cameras are blocked, it would probably even give road outlines even with no sensor input.
trailhound
2 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:41
Today's High / Low 52 Week High / Low
556.9 35.05 ▲ 6.72% 23,302,146 $521.85 559.99 / 521.20 $526 / $65.42

No 560 for you!!!
So close....
ZachF
2 | Link ➤

24 Nov 13:12
I was literally having this same thought last night!

Great minds...
traxila
2 | Link ➤

24 Nov 13:52
Think people need to move away from the idea that governments ever need to pay their debts, specifically the ones that own printing presses. This is the kind of thing that only occurs when wars break out. And then you have other things to worry about.

Have no doubt that bailouts are in the picture...
 
Daily Roundup: 25 November
Posts from 25 Nov 00:01 GMT to 25 Nov 23:58 GMT
Votes as of 26 Nov 14:27 GMT

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ZeApelido
29 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:12
Tesla is going to build a factory to make chargers in China

https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1331609215648010242?s=20
Artful Dodger
25 | Link ➤

25 Nov 7:32
NASDAQ sets the zero point for the day equal to the 08:00:00 AM share price, then percentages are calculated and displayed from that point for comparison(s) to other Indices (or other equities).

You'll find that this is the way HF tradering systems (like hedge funds) are setup as well. It's quite c...
Paul_SF
23 | Link ➤

25 Nov 4:58
Construction and operation of Tesla's gigafactory in Shanghai maintains rapid progress - Xinhua | English.news.cn
Cobbler
22 | Link ➤

25 Nov 12:47
Second price increase in a month period for the Belgium Model 3 SR+ ....
Was at 48800€ November, 25 days ago increase to 49490€ and now 50490€. Currency adjustment?
Christine600
21 | Link ➤

25 Nov 23:56
Morgan Stanley Downgrades Ford, Says EV Strategy Is 'Not Fully Clear'

Adam Jonas downgraded Ford's stock from Overweight to Equal-Weight with an unchanged $9 price target.

Management's unclear strategy makes it more difficult to model Ford's EV growth profile given the "state of flux" of its EV st...
Artful Dodger
17 | Link ➤

25 Nov 1:07
After-action Report: Tue, Nov 24, 2020: (Full-Day's Trading)

Headline: "TSLA Melts Up w. Macro Tailwinds"

Traded: $29,389,396,345.43 ($29.39B)
Volume: 53,753,328
VWAP: $546.75

Close: $555.38 / VWAP: 101.68%
TSLA closed ABOVE today's Avg SP
TSLA MaxPain: $490

Mkt Cap: TSLA / TM $526.445B / $198.7...
Curt Renz
16 | Link ➤

25 Nov 3:29
Reuters - this morning: Ford’s new CEO tackles warranty costs in bid to boost profit

What is barely mentioned is that the long established automakers must pay their franchised dealerships to make warranty repairs. I once had my car recalled to have an 80-cent part replaced in two minutes. I asked t...
Sudre
15 | Link ➤

25 Nov 0:10
This might actually work. I found a free GIF app to put together the last four IO charts.

Looks like Puts are more numerous than Calls at the $500 strike as of close yesterday. There are not many Puts selling above that tho which is odd? All we get is a few $520s? Definitely seems like a push down...
Lbkmxp100d
14 | Link ➤

25 Nov 20:12
My neighbor who has the Cadillac self driving told me the same, that Cadillac self driving is ranked higher. I asked him for a drive. It nothing more than a lane keeping. I then gave him ride in my Tesla that has the beta FSD. It blew his mind. Not even in same league
Sudre
14 | Link ➤

25 Nov 15:29
THEY is not one person or MM. THEY is probably a dozen groups with more money under management than Elon has in stock options. THEY have different ideas about what THEY want to happen. One of them is even possibly short. That means that a bone has to be thrown and things move in step or there may be...
Curt Renz
13 | Link ➤

25 Nov 23:10
Still no trimming of TSLA by ARK since last doing so 6 days ago, despite TSLA's current string of 3 record highs.
engle
11 | Link ➤

25 Nov 14:09
[edited: @Knightshade re: Index Funds buying window]

On 11/30 (I think we will see their press release after the market closes), S&P Indices will announce what percentage of $TSLA their clients, the wonderful "must buy at any price and hold" passive S&P 500 index funds shall have to buy close to bu...
JBRR
11 | Link ➤

25 Nov 13:14
Massive pile of economic data coming in 15 minutes
JBRR
11 | Link ➤

25 Nov 7:23
Join the Cell Team | Tesla

Cool footage here
Zero CO2
10 | Link ➤

25 Nov 19:47
Tesla teardown expert breaks down the new 4680 Battery Pack

may have been posted already but i am too far behind reading 100's page to look so here you go

pretty interesting Munro speculates on the 4680 battery pack design ... this will be another game changer
viridi
10 | Link ➤

25 Nov 15:04
Lots of effort to keep TSLA below $550 this a.m. Big selling to rapidly stop TSLA from running soon after the open. Once TSLA was brought below $550, the capping started. As TSLA made a run towards $550 a bit ago, the typical pattern of large sell orders being put in and then pulled started. A brief...
Right_Said_Fred
10 | Link ➤

25 Nov 13:00
The exchange rate has been steady and even trending upwards a bit, so that is not the reason for the price hike. And it's also contrary to the fact that this is a MIC car, which presumably costs less to build. Conclusion: demand in Q4 must be off the charts.
Artful Dodger
10 | Link ➤

25 Nov 2:10
Agreed. Many here thought we'd see the typical 4th of July bear raid, leading to a Summer lull in TSLA trading.

2020 proved exactly the opposite: The Forth kicked off this amazing Bull run which has yet to slow it's pace.

One thing we can say for certain is that many traders will NOT be travelling...
UkNorthampton
9 | Link ➤

25 Nov 17:05
https://twitter.com/ng_eso/status/1331630079257038849

Uk needs more storage - Megapacks and Highview compressed air storage please

"We’re forecasting tight margins on the #electricity system over the next few days owing to a number of factors, primarily varying renewable generation levels and cold...
StealthP3D
9 | Link ➤

25 Nov 1:39
By holding a non-dividend bearing stock long-term, there is NO opportunity to realize cash in the short-term. You would have to sell some.
There is always a time and a place for withdrawing cash from your investment portfolio. But you are fooling yourself if you think it's somehow better to take pro...
Discoducky
9 | Link ➤

25 Nov 1:58
I have 3 CT's on order for RT's and my conservative case is also 24 months
Singuy
8 | Link ➤

25 Nov 13:17
Looks like ev stock apocalypse this am. Average of -10% for Xpeng, li, and nio premarket.
chrsk
8 | Link ➤

25 Nov 14:00
The price for X and S was increased in Norway overnight. 5630$.

Strange, as the dollar has weakened quite a bit over the past months.
Causalien
8 | Link ➤

25 Nov 1:47
You can tell that some were caught off guard and some weren't.
The capping action before the announcement was very suspicious. However if you look at option premium it means that the majority of the people did not see it coming. And lurking in all these trading chat rooms. Most people do not know th...
ZeApelido
7 | Link ➤

25 Nov 22:30
latest Limiting Factor video on silicon

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ClownMouth
91 | Link ➤

25 Nov 1:54
Men & Women, Kings & Queens - I know the stock is minting new Teslanaires every hour lately but allow me to humor you with a tale of a much smaller sum.

Through boneheaded oversight - I was saving in multiple other accounts - I only opened a Roth in November 2018. Every couple years I take a TD re...
Lbkmxp100d
74 | Link ➤

25 Nov 20:12
My neighbor who has the Cadillac self driving told me the same, that Cadillac self driving is ranked higher. I asked him for a drive. It nothing more than a lane keeping. I then gave him ride in my Tesla that has the beta FSD. It blew his mind. Not even in same league
Curt Renz
61 | Link ➤

25 Nov 19:59
Barron's - hour ago: Tesla Stock Rises Again, Creating Another Problem for Index Funds

Excerpt:

That means Tesla will likely go into the S&P 500 as the index's fifth or sixth largest company. And the more valuable it gets, the more shares index funds have to buy. And the more stock index funds hav...
JoNoSaisQuoi
53 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:57
I might be quite, but I am an old timer, I began building my position in March 2013. I have never sold a share. Nope it’s not a smirk for me. Nothing but gratitude because whenever I have doubted myself I check in here. It is comforting to see many familiar old posters. So many have left. Did they s...
Curt Renz
51 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:00
$DJI -0.6%
COMP +0.6%
SPX -0.2%

NKLA -12.3%
F -3.9%
GM -2.2%
FCAU +0.7%

TSLA +3.4%

Another day of TSLA all-time intraday and closing highs
4chi
46 | Link ➤

25 Nov 18:37
Happy US Thanksgiving to all the posters in here. Appreciate all the knowledge passed along in this thread. I read it daily but have never posted. So Thanks.

I'm just HODL in several accts. Eyeing a $721 SP to make us Teslanaires.
cyclingthealps
40 | Link ➤

25 Nov 8:41
I am still here, not posting much but grateful for all the valuable content provided here. Once more, thank you all.
My current status is that my portfolio is nearing €100.000 which is unbelievable because at the beginning of 2018 my portfolio was €6000-€10000.
Pezpunk
36 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:42
buy-and-hold has got me within spitting distance of 8 figures. why engage in complicated, risky behavior when a simple, safe strategy is making me rich already? not advice or criticism. just my own personal philosophy.

edit: i suppose i should acknowledge that "safe" is a relative term. anywhere ot...
2daMoon
35 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:02
After lurking here for months I wanted to celebrate my first TSLA purchase going from Short to Long and went ahead and signed up.

Y'all are a ton of fun and have become one of my daily go-to resources. Along with Teslarati, SMR (love you all), Tesla Daily, and of course Nasdaq and Fidelity sites.
...
TheTalkingMule
32 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:33
I'd just like to reiterate what a horrendous idea this was to give 36 days notice rather than the traditional 7.

We learn many lessons in trading and the value of simply remaining long from posters here, but let us not forget the lessons from the other side of the counter. Everything these idiots d...
Robocop
29 | Link ➤

25 Nov 20:10
I don't bring up Tesla to general public. Too many dumb reactions. I just quietly think "You'll be driving one in 2025." Or rather, it will be driving them.
JBRR
29 | Link ➤

25 Nov 7:23
Join the Cell Team | Tesla

Cool footage here
rdalcanto
26 | Link ➤

25 Nov 18:51
Fidelity won't give up. After failing to get me to talk to one of their advisors about my Portfolio (which is 100% TSLA), they called my wife about diversifying and getting help to manage it (as if any of their advisor's returns can get to even 1/10th of mine). She told them we aren't interested.......
mickificki
26 | Link ➤

25 Nov 17:36
OT: I'll never forget this experience I had in Vegas. Was with the wife and kid walking down the strip and came across a homeless man who was asking for $20 or more. I scoffed at him thinking to myself what person would ask for THAT much to start off with.

He looked at me and said, "You know, this ...
Chunky Jr.
26 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:34
I thought about dabbling in options, but after reading about them for a while, I decided it might be more productive to just set that money on fire so at least it could have some value keeping me warm. I admire those of you who know how to play that game - it looks way too complicated for my feeble ...
H Mak
24 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:39
On 31st August TSLA closed at 498 so it's a 15% rise from then till today. In the three months since then we've had:

Battery Day
Q3 deliveries
Q3 earnings
S&P announcement

The last few days have felt a bit mad, but when you put a 15% rise in the context of those events, it's actually all rather se...
Paul_SF
24 | Link ➤

25 Nov 0:28
with all the respect, if I was you I would just buy the Y now, the defects you claim are keeping you from getting it are completely irrelevant.

get the Y and go on a road trip!
Artful Dodger
23 | Link ➤

25 Nov 23:35
If this happens, Tesla simply announces another 2:1 Stock Dividend on Christmas Eve, and the Shortzes have 2 weeks to buy ANOTHER $50B of TSLA to replace the phantom shares they poofed into existance (remember, large Index Funds are Shareholders of Record, and are known to Tesla, unlike the 'Benefic...
Lycanthrope
21 | Link ➤

25 Nov 13:43
Probably, the $$ is very weak for the moment - have been watching it as I needed to convert some of my portfolio cash to € for this bloody house*. Was hoping it would strengthen with the stabilising political situation in the US, but doesn't appear to have impacted at all.

*don't like to talk about...
Unpilot
20 | Link ➤

25 Nov 17:39
The thing about these stories...we don't see much of the other side. You know the dude who turned 1 million into 0...or maybe negative numbers.

That happens too.
TheTalkingMule
20 | Link ➤

25 Nov 4:12
Past behavior is a good indication of future behavior.....I assume they'll go with the two tranche option and it will implode the universe.

Imagine Dec 14th or so when the first buying window drives SP from $630 to $850 and then it just sits there. Obviously it would be stupid to sell.....there's a...
1101011
20 | Link ➤

25 Nov 2:25
Congrats Spacex. Recovering a first stage seven times? Terrific!
woodisgood
20 | Link ➤

25 Nov 0:30
Don’t be. They’re envious of how well you sleep at night.
Lycanthrope
19 | Link ➤

25 Nov 14:24
R2, you say? I took delivery of mine this morning! And no panel gaps!
mekberg
18 | Link ➤

25 Nov 20:50
The larger the problem, the bigger the opportunity.

Climate change is the largest problem (existential threat) of our lifetimes. Elon has an amazing way of applying first principles to solve problems. This is why Tesla is the largest holding in my portfolio. I, like @Krugerrand, have held on for ye...

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kanweg
36 | Link ➤

25 Nov 19:23
Don’t feel bad, it could be worse. I’m the only person Curt Renz never had on his show (at least, that is the impression I get from his posts that start with who he had on his show.)
Johan
31 | Link ➤

25 Nov 8:34
So basically you're saying you buy when the price is lower, then sell as the price has gone up, then buy back when the price is lower again? Rinse, repeat, and voila you make more money than just buying and holding? Interesting concept, now if you could just give me a heads up every time the price i...
woodisgood
30 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:17
Did I read that correctly? You were short TSLA?

Someone get Neuralink on the phone...this is a neuroscience breakthrough. We can grow brain!
oldTAVguy
30 | Link ➤

25 Nov 13:43
CNBS lead TSLA video this AM has David Trainer saying that TSLA is only worth $50 per share.

Shows that CNBS is the greatest source ever for financial analysis. /s

FYI:
David Trainer
Seeking Alpha
Financial Blogger
Ranked #6,245 out of 7,739 Bloggers on TipRanks (#12,084 out of 14,851 overall expe...
Mike Smith
28 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:35
We should start a support thread for those of us suffering through feelings of guilt about 2020 being the best year of their life..
Chunky Jr.
26 | Link ➤

25 Nov 0:41
see also : "Is Apple's iPod about to get crushed by Microsoft's Zune?"
MXWing
23 | Link ➤

25 Nov 18:13
Ugg Thanksgiving is going to be awkward tomorrow.

My inlaws were foolish enough to have me manage their account.

Being conservative, I sold OTM covered calls so they can lock in some profit.

The problem, is I bought those calls in my account.

I'm ITM, but also In the doghouse.

Advice?
JusRelax
22 | Link ➤

25 Nov 15:01
Hmmm... that's weird. Fidelity is having this weird glitch in my portfolio today where all the numbers are red instead of green. It looks so abnormal.
Todd Burch
22 | Link ➤

25 Nov 14:33
Oh my God. TSLA is down 0.12%.
ZeApelido
20 | Link ➤

25 Nov 23:07
867-5309

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ClownMouth
92 | Link ➤

25 Nov 1:54
Men & Women, Kings & Queens - I know the stock is minting new Teslanaires every hour lately but allow me to humor you with a tale of a much smaller sum.

Through boneheaded oversight - I was saving in multiple other accounts - I only opened a Roth in November 2018. Every couple years I take a TD re...
Lbkmxp100d
90 | Link ➤

25 Nov 20:12
My neighbor who has the Cadillac self driving told me the same, that Cadillac self driving is ranked higher. I asked him for a drive. It nothing more than a lane keeping. I then gave him ride in my Tesla that has the beta FSD. It blew his mind. Not even in same league
Curt Renz
65 | Link ➤

25 Nov 19:59
Barron's - hour ago: Tesla Stock Rises Again, Creating Another Problem for Index Funds

Excerpt:

That means Tesla will likely go into the S&P 500 as the index's fifth or sixth largest company. And the more valuable it gets, the more shares index funds have to buy. And the more stock index funds hav...
JoNoSaisQuoi
55 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:57
I might be quite, but I am an old timer, I began building my position in March 2013. I have never sold a share. Nope it’s not a smirk for me. Nothing but gratitude because whenever I have doubted myself I check in here. It is comforting to see many familiar old posters. So many have left. Did they s...
Curt Renz
55 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:00
$DJI -0.6%
COMP +0.6%
SPX -0.2%

NKLA -12.3%
F -3.9%
GM -2.2%
FCAU +0.7%

TSLA +3.4%

Another day of TSLA all-time intraday and closing highs
Mike Smith
47 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:35
We should start a support thread for those of us suffering through feelings of guilt about 2020 being the best year of their life..
4chi
47 | Link ➤

25 Nov 18:37
Happy US Thanksgiving to all the posters in here. Appreciate all the knowledge passed along in this thread. I read it daily but have never posted. So Thanks.

I'm just HODL in several accts. Eyeing a $721 SP to make us Teslanaires.
Johan
47 | Link ➤

25 Nov 8:34
So basically you're saying you buy when the price is lower, then sell as the price has gone up, then buy back when the price is lower again? Rinse, repeat, and voila you make more money than just buying and holding? Interesting concept, now if you could just give me a heads up every time the price i...
rdalcanto
46 | Link ➤

25 Nov 18:51
Fidelity won't give up. After failing to get me to talk to one of their advisors about my Portfolio (which is 100% TSLA), they called my wife about diversifying and getting help to manage it (as if any of their advisor's returns can get to even 1/10th of mine). She told them we aren't interested.......
Chunky Jr.
46 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:34
I thought about dabbling in options, but after reading about them for a while, I decided it might be more productive to just set that money on fire so at least it could have some value keeping me warm. I admire those of you who know how to play that game - it looks way too complicated for my feeble ...
JBRR
40 | Link ➤

25 Nov 7:23
Join the Cell Team | Tesla

Cool footage here
cyclingthealps
40 | Link ➤

25 Nov 8:41
I am still here, not posting much but grateful for all the valuable content provided here. Once more, thank you all.
My current status is that my portfolio is nearing €100.000 which is unbelievable because at the beginning of 2018 my portfolio was €6000-€10000.
kanweg
38 | Link ➤

25 Nov 19:23
Don’t feel bad, it could be worse. I’m the only person Curt Renz never had on his show (at least, that is the impression I get from his posts that start with who he had on his show.)
Pezpunk
37 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:42
buy-and-hold has got me within spitting distance of 8 figures. why engage in complicated, risky behavior when a simple, safe strategy is making me rich already? not advice or criticism. just my own personal philosophy.

edit: i suppose i should acknowledge that "safe" is a relative term. anywhere ot...
2daMoon
36 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:02
After lurking here for months I wanted to celebrate my first TSLA purchase going from Short to Long and went ahead and signed up.

Y'all are a ton of fun and have become one of my daily go-to resources. Along with Teslarati, SMR (love you all), Tesla Daily, and of course Nasdaq and Fidelity sites.
...
TheTalkingMule
34 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:33
I'd just like to reiterate what a horrendous idea this was to give 36 days notice rather than the traditional 7.

We learn many lessons in trading and the value of simply remaining long from posters here, but let us not forget the lessons from the other side of the counter. Everything these idiots d...
oldTAVguy
34 | Link ➤

25 Nov 13:43
CNBS lead TSLA video this AM has David Trainer saying that TSLA is only worth $50 per share.

Shows that CNBS is the greatest source ever for financial analysis. /s

FYI:
David Trainer
Seeking Alpha
Financial Blogger
Ranked #6,245 out of 7,739 Bloggers on TipRanks (#12,084 out of 14,851 overall expe...
woodisgood
33 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:17
Did I read that correctly? You were short TSLA?

Someone get Neuralink on the phone...this is a neuroscience breakthrough. We can grow brain!
H Mak
32 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:39
On 31st August TSLA closed at 498 so it's a 15% rise from then till today. In the three months since then we've had:

Battery Day
Q3 deliveries
Q3 earnings
S&P announcement

The last few days have felt a bit mad, but when you put a 15% rise in the context of those events, it's actually all rather se...
Chunky Jr.
32 | Link ➤

25 Nov 0:41
see also : "Is Apple's iPod about to get crushed by Microsoft's Zune?"
Robocop
30 | Link ➤

25 Nov 20:10
I don't bring up Tesla to general public. Too many dumb reactions. I just quietly think "You'll be driving one in 2025." Or rather, it will be driving them.
ZeApelido
30 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:12
Tesla is going to build a factory to make chargers in China

https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1331609215648010242?s=20
Lycanthrope
28 | Link ➤

25 Nov 14:24
R2, you say? I took delivery of mine this morning! And no panel gaps!
mickificki
27 | Link ➤

25 Nov 17:36
OT: I'll never forget this experience I had in Vegas. Was with the wife and kid walking down the strip and came across a homeless man who was asking for $20 or more. I scoffed at him thinking to myself what person would ask for THAT much to start off with.

He looked at me and said, "You know, this ...
TheTalkingMule
27 | Link ➤

25 Nov 4:12
Past behavior is a good indication of future behavior.....I assume they'll go with the two tranche option and it will implode the universe.

Imagine Dec 14th or so when the first buying window drives SP from $630 to $850 and then it just sits there. Obviously it would be stupid to sell.....there's a...

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StealthP3D
170
votes
22 posts
7.7 v/p
  1. I think this says more to how much you understand ...
  2. By holding a non-dividend bearing stock long-term,...
  3. Your monitor might be messed up. Just buy two more...
  4. Justice?
  5. I've made a lot of money using options over the ye...
Curt Renz
168
votes
5 posts
33.6 v/p
  1. Barron's - hour ago: Tesla Stock Rises Again, Crea...
  2. $DJI -0.6% COMP +0.6% SPX -0.2% NKLA -12.3% F -3....
  3. Reuters - this morning: Ford’s new CEO tackles war...
  4. Still no trimming of TSLA by ARK since last doing ...
  5. Electrek - hour ago: Tesla launches new microsite ...
Lycanthrope
168
votes
17 posts
9.9 v/p
  1. R2, you say? I took delivery of mine this morning!...
  2. Probably, the $$ is very weak for the moment - hav...
  3. As said a few times, by others and I, they should ...
  4. Now in AH, yes! But boy, that was a bullish day t...
  5. I knew basically nothing about them, but magicked ...
TheTalkingMule
123
votes
9 posts
13.7 v/p
  1. I'd just like to reiterate what a horrendous idea ...
  2. Past behavior is a good indication of future behav...
  3. Everyone! I ran here as fast as I could! Is everyo...
  4. Everybody's different. Some can handle the lunacy ...
  5. Let's keep it rational people! Nov 30th is two ha...
Artful Dodger
118
votes
6 posts
19.7 v/p
  1. NASDAQ sets the zero point for the day equal to th...
  2. If this happens, Tesla simply announces another 2:...
  3. After-action Report: Tue, Nov 24, 2020: (Full-Day'...
  4. Agreed. Many here thought we'd see the typical 4th...
  5. Lol, you know that the Mars launch window was Summ...

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TravelFree
2 | Link ➤

25 Nov 15:11
I'll describe the simple strategy and ignore your "give me" sarcasm:
Step 1: Buy your first shares in this strategy and hold until the shares double in price. Now sell 50% of those shares. The remaining shares are now all zero bases as you have pulled your basis out and bought something that has rea...
TravelFree
2 | Link ➤

25 Nov 7:35
While the other car companies do have to reimburse Dealers for warranty work, Tesla still has a cost of maintaining their own service centers too. They do avoid duplication of certain jobs other car dealers have such as additional administration, but facilities costs and most of the employees costs ...
 
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Posts from 26 Nov 00:05 GMT to 26 Nov 23:59 GMT
Votes as of 27 Nov 14:46 GMT

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Mike Smith
46 | Link ➤

26 Nov 4:25
The new FSD Beta is out and it's a huge improvement.

-Pulls right up to stop lines
-Goes through yellow lights appropriately
-Excellent roundabouts
-Far fewer interventions
cyclingthealps
27 | Link ➤

26 Nov 7:55
Short interest increased (a little) in the period from 10/30/2020 (share price $388) to 11/13/2020 (share price $408)

Shares shorted from 47.800.000 to 47.900.000
Float shorted from 6,34% to 6,32% (which is a decrease, some kind of float increase should have happened in this time period, I will tra...
tinyrodent
22 | Link ➤

26 Nov 21:15
Original German: Verleihung des Axel Springer Awards: "An Evening for Elon Musk - Mission to Mars" live aus Berlin am 1. Dezember, Axel Springer SE, Pressemitteilung - lifePR

Google Translate:

Presentation of the Axel Springer Award: "An Evening for Elon Musk - Mission to Mars" live from Berlin on...
AudubonB
21 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:23
No. That is not how it works for your proposed "Index Fund manager". Manager has to re-allocate all funds according to the S&P's percentile directives.

To keep it simple, let's imagine the Bakewell 4 Index, and posit that it includes Bakewell Enterprises at 40% of the index; MXWing Inc at 25%, Musk...
Words of HABIT
18 | Link ➤

26 Nov 12:55
Canadian pension fund giants call for green COVID-19 recovery

November 25th Yahoo! finance article by Jeff Lagerquist.

"The chief executive officers of eight Canadian pension funds, collectively representing about $1.6 trillion in assets under management, are calling for a green recovery from the ...
Lycanthrope
14 | Link ➤

26 Nov 18:25
That was the $1 per contract Jan 2021 $650's that @Green Pete gave us the heads-up on last September, sold prematurely in February for $220... Big mistake, currently trading at $2,232 (accounting for split).

That's $2,231,000.00 gains from a single $1000 trade if I had held...

And the June 2022 $1...
Artful Dodger
14 | Link ➤

26 Nov 1:10
After-action Report: Wed, Nov 25, 2020: (Full-Day's Trading)

Headline: "TSLA Lays Down the Smak w. New ATH at the Close"

Traded: $27,517,641,308.72 ($27.52B)
Volume: 48,969,488
VWAP: $561.93

Close: $574.00 / VWAP: 102.20%
TSLA closed ABOVE today's Avg SP
TSLA MaxPain: $505

Mkt Cap: TSLA / TM $54...
Artful Dodger
14 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:18
Yeah, the exact opposite happened as Traders are staying at work (or WFH) during this pandemic. Volume built the SP over the day, ending with the simultaneous climax of an Intraday ATH at the ATH Close.

Did I mention the other 2 ATHs today? ATH Open and ATH Intraday Low. Indeed, today was the 4th ...
MP3Mike
13 | Link ➤

26 Nov 2:30
A good video by Rob that goes over hw many shares need to be bought as the TSLA, and S&P500, price changes. (It doesn't work how most people think.)

Updated Look at Tesla’s S&P 500 Inclusion, FSD Beta 5, Supercharger Factory, & TSLA Stock - YouTube
Artful Dodger
12 | Link ➤

26 Nov 7:35
Predictionn relative to the Closing SP before the announcement: $408.09

The runup after the 5:1 Share Dividend announcement after hrs on Aug 11 was either:

95% (based on Tue, Sep 1 PreMarket high), or
82.7% (based on Tue, Sep 1 Opening SP)
Note that the 'forced' buying due to the Share Dividend wa...
Artful Dodger
11 | Link ➤

26 Nov 21:48
Here's the thing: the Aug 2020 Stock dividend + Cap raise showed us that $5B of forced buying over a 1 mth period drove the SP up ~90%

Now, we're looking out at a MINIMUM of $50B for forced buying over a 1 mth period. Sure it could be a bit more, and the S&P Committee might dick with the rules a ta...
Mike Smith
11 | Link ➤

26 Nov 17:01
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Curt Renz
10 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:58
TSLA - #1 Stock Among Millennial & Gen Z Investors

CNBC - hour ago:
amolina
9 | Link ➤

26 Nov 23:12
This is what I was implying. Imagine having SP at ATH, but with naked shorts and then Tesla countering it with a stock split.
I hope that you are right about MM's/hedgies not being foolish.

Here is a great FSD video with the latest release 2020.44.15.3. This one should hopefully lead us to US wid...
Artful Dodger
9 | Link ➤

26 Nov 8:17
Tesla trading at €481.95 early in the session at Tradegate Berlin (TLO) (the equivalent of $575.02)

Cheers!
Artful Dodger
9 | Link ➤

26 Nov 3:01
Yeah, TSLA 10-yr CAGR is 55%. Picked up up a tad to 62.67% CAGR over the past 5 years.

2021 will handle that easily.

Cheers!
woodisgood
7 | Link ➤

26 Nov 19:01
It’s worth pointing out for some of the folks that are interested in dabbling that gains like that on non-lottery ticket call options are unlikely to happen again for TSLA. They occur when the options market fails to anticipate upcoming rapid growth, resulting in options mispricing. This was the sce...
Knightshade
7 | Link ➤

26 Nov 4:38
Market Chameleon

click the "historical" tab on the right there
jeewee3000
5 | Link ➤

26 Nov 19:36
If you buy the LEAPS when TSLA is (relatively) low, yes. If you buy at a peak (which could be right now) you're way better off hodling shares.

Source: experience
Green Pete
5 | Link ➤

26 Nov 19:56
Oooof. I have been hesitating to do the math on what holding these would have been. That hurts lol. I do hope people made some money on that post tho. I certainly didn't make that much on it. But maybe someone did
UkNorthampton
5 | Link ➤

26 Nov 17:39
My thought was to massively improve poor China Supercharger network (partly due to limits on where Tesla-only chargers can be put) and to extend out as part of roads and belt. So tesla chargers made in China could be internal to China, added to roads and belt trunk routes and sold in nearby countrie...
Lycanthrope
5 | Link ➤

26 Nov 18:13
Looks like IV went up

Jan 2021: Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) Options Chain - Yahoo Finance
Christine600
5 | Link ➤

26 Nov 15:53
And now it's at $571 (or €479.95)

Tradegate Exchange
Prunesquallor
5 | Link ➤

26 Nov 2:21
I did the SharesPost online test and evidently passed as a credited investor. Minimum buyin for SpaceX was listed as $100K. I was contacted by a broker, but when I told her I was only interested in SpaceX, her reply was:

"I’d be happy to arrange a call, however I will let you know that SpaceX is a ...
Artful Dodger
5 | Link ➤

26 Nov 2:37
No, those numbers were collected in answer to a specific question: "Are there enough shares under 'Call' contract to satify the required purchases of the S&P 500 Index funds.

The answer is 'No', and the buying continues...

Cheers!

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SunCatcher
78 | Link ➤

26 Nov 1:24
New York Post; "Elon Musk passes Bill Gates on rich list, but still lags in philanthropy"
I won't add the link, but will say this; what greater charity can he contribute to than to "Accelerate the World's Transition to Sustainable Energy", and save lives from the deadly effects of pollution from th...
FrankSG
38 | Link ➤

26 Nov 7:42
I won't make an exact prediction, which is impossible anyway, but the model I've created will give people a lot more data to base their own predictions on. The main use of the model is to give people a better feel for how much selling pressure there will be at various stock price levels.

Going to g...
Open Interest
30 | Link ➤

26 Nov 19:20
I’d like to give thanks to this wonderful Tesla community I feel privileged to be part of.

I can’t thank you enough for the education, the encouragement, discussions and laughs along the way. What a journey it has been, especially this year.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
Paul_SF
29 | Link ➤

26 Nov 16:47
Happy Thanksgiving!

By next Thanksgiving, Tera Austin and Tera Berlin will be up and running.

Enjoy the ride!
Artful Dodger
27 | Link ➤

26 Nov 21:48
Here's the thing: the Aug 2020 Stock dividend + Cap raise showed us that $5B of forced buying over a 1 mth period drove the SP up ~90%

Now, we're looking out at a MINIMUM of $50B for forced buying over a 1 mth period. Sure it could be a bit more, and the S&P Committee might dick with the rules a ta...
PeterJA
25 | Link ➤

26 Nov 23:46
Anyone thinking of selling their TSLA shares at $600 or $800 or $1000 should watch this video. The nuclear bomb that will destroy the auto industry as we know it is coming much sooner than most people expect, and your company is gonna unleash it.
feigen66
24 | Link ➤

26 Nov 16:36
Happy Thanksgiving. I am very grateful for all the long term investors, disagreeing or agreeing with me, investing the future of humanity.

People told me the P/E of TSLA is unrealistic. I asked, "What's the P/E to have your children and grandchildren a place to live on Earth?"
Artful Dodger
20 | Link ➤

26 Nov 22:10
I explained the details back in Aug and Sep, live as events unfolded. Maybe subscribe?

You don't seem to have really grok'd the purpose and utility of the Share Dividend: if/when Tesla determines that excessive naked short selling has occurred, to the point where it is artificially suppressing TSL...
amolina
19 | Link ➤

26 Nov 23:12
This is what I was implying. Imagine having SP at ATH, but with naked shorts and then Tesla countering it with a stock split.
I hope that you are right about MM's/hedgies not being foolish.

Here is a great FSD video with the latest release 2020.44.15.3. This one should hopefully lead us to US wid...
UnknownSoldier
19 | Link ➤

26 Nov 9:50
Saw this on WSB and reposting it here:
Thanks PLTR and NIO, donating $500 to my local food bank for all the Covid unemployment. : wallstreetbets

Today, we should all be thankful for what we have because there are many this year who have nothing. If you share this sentiment, you can also find your l...
S3XY
18 | Link ➤

26 Nov 17:27
With the loss of Jack Rickard this year I'm thankful that we still have Sandy Munroe to inform us mere laymen. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
aubreymcfato
18 | Link ➤

26 Nov 9:37
I need to tell it to somebody: today, if it's green, I'll get my ten bagger for my average price. Not a true 1000% because I got also more expensive shares, but still
JBRR
18 | Link ➤

26 Nov 10:56
Massive improvements in new FSD build
Mike Smith
17 | Link ➤

26 Nov 4:25
The new FSD Beta is out and it's a huge improvement.

-Pulls right up to stop lines
-Goes through yellow lights appropriately
-Excellent roundabouts
-Far fewer interventions
Favguy
14 | Link ➤

26 Nov 15:45
I'm very disturbed to see at least 7 of you think this is funny, I'm suffering quite badly from this affliction, especially now I no longer have to go to work, so there are no distractions!! I'm even suffering when the markets are closed as being British, I switch to watching the exchange rate chang...
ByeByeJohnny
13 | Link ➤

26 Nov 23:06
Today I bought the most expensive thing I've ever paid for. More expensive than the only apartment I've ever bought 30 years ago. More expensive than any of the two used cars I've ever bought.

I spent less than 1/10th of my gains since S&P inclusion was announced.

Saving the rest for my ticket to ...
MC3OZ
12 | Link ➤

26 Nov 22:36
Yes this really caught my attention for several reasons China currently has 4,000 Supercharger stalls, while they might deploy an additional 4,000-5,000 per year IMO some of these stall are for export Europe and Asia Pacific.
In turn that means Supercharger stalls built in America can be used for No...
FireMedic
12 | Link ➤

26 Nov 18:46
shocking, I know. Yet another hit piece aimed at our beloved Tesla because they won’t pay advertising. So glad management is holding string. Cuz **** ‘em, YouTubees will pick up the slack and do real journalism.
Robocop
12 | Link ➤

26 Nov 17:10
I have always expected this to happen eventually, the question for me is who's the first OEM to capitulate? My instinct says VW. Note: I think this would be a great move for whatever OEM finally give up. Imagine a 2025 VW EV and the dealer can say 'It can charge nationwide on all Tesla superchargers...
WarpedOne
12 | Link ➤

26 Nov 17:30
That would be most awesome... cancel it now only to be forced to include it in a few years at 10x the current valuation.
They missed their best train, all subsequent ones will be worse and worse.

Inclusion is not bad for S&P, non-inclusion is. And is also getting progressively worse.
rdalcanto
12 | Link ➤

26 Nov 14:41
Happy ThanksforgivingusTSLA everyone!
Sudre
12 | Link ➤

26 Nov 15:59
To me the big news is Tesla is building a China factory to build !!10,000!! Superchargers a year. We know earlier this year non-Tesla's were seen charging on Superchargers so this factory can make chargers for anyone. This is the kind of scale needed to get high speed charging more accessible than g...
jerry33
11 | Link ➤

26 Nov 21:48
In terms of car numbers that's correct S and X will not do much to transition from fossil fuels, but in terms of image it's not correct. It's hard to sell popular priced cars if you don't also have image cars, and there's a market segment that likes larger cars so there's an advantage to supplying t...
Right_Said_Fred
11 | Link ➤

26 Nov 22:07
All posts on IRA and taxes were moved to where they belong: Tax questions and strategies
Artful Dodger
11 | Link ➤

26 Nov 22:35
Yeah, it's interesting that they're holding back, since the report seems to have been ready for some time. At least Tasha has been teasing it for awhile.

Some folks here have speculated that ARK Invest is holding back to see the outcome of the Fall 2020 FSD Beta test program. If things go well, and...

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MXWing
35 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:18
Cashed out some TSLA profit so buy my Bolt today!

(said no one ever)
Tes La Ferrari
30 | Link ➤

26 Nov 16:51
A little sad to see her go.

Enjoy the Y!
MXWing
26 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:20
Mary Barra, also places a sell rating on GM!

GM CEO Mary Barra Sells $7.7 Million Worth Of GM Stock.
Chunky Jr.
25 | Link ➤

26 Nov 19:31
On this Thanksgiving, I'm thankful I'm not short TSLA
Beezer_9
25 | Link ➤

26 Nov 13:21
The only day we will all be on the same page
Khamul
24 | Link ➤

26 Nov 13:45
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ INTERLUDE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Are you or a loved one suffering from Tickertitis?

Cases of a severe new disease is on the rise: Tickertitis can infect everybody over the age of 18.

At stage one symptoms are mild; decreased movement, dry and itching eyes, and rhythmic spasms ...
Silentkeravelt
20 | Link ➤

26 Nov 1:22
Is he not embarrassed to show photos of his TSLA position on the wall for all to see?
Causalien
16 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:43
What if, Cathy is just staring at this forum and holding because of us and we, at the same time is holding because she is holding.
Billionaire
15 | Link ➤

26 Nov 2:04
@Billionaire
StealthP3D
13 | Link ➤

26 Nov 21:35
She would probably laugh at how small it was.

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SunCatcher
81 | Link ➤

26 Nov 1:24
New York Post; "Elon Musk passes Bill Gates on rich list, but still lags in philanthropy"
I won't add the link, but will say this; what greater charity can he contribute to than to "Accelerate the World's Transition to Sustainable Energy", and save lives from the deadly effects of pollution from th...
Mike Smith
63 | Link ➤

26 Nov 4:25
The new FSD Beta is out and it's a huge improvement.

-Pulls right up to stop lines
-Goes through yellow lights appropriately
-Excellent roundabouts
-Far fewer interventions
FrankSG
39 | Link ➤

26 Nov 7:42
I won't make an exact prediction, which is impossible anyway, but the model I've created will give people a lot more data to base their own predictions on. The main use of the model is to give people a better feel for how much selling pressure there will be at various stock price levels.

Going to g...
Artful Dodger
38 | Link ➤

26 Nov 21:48
Here's the thing: the Aug 2020 Stock dividend + Cap raise showed us that $5B of forced buying over a 1 mth period drove the SP up ~90%

Now, we're looking out at a MINIMUM of $50B for forced buying over a 1 mth period. Sure it could be a bit more, and the S&P Committee might dick with the rules a ta...
Beezer_9
36 | Link ➤

26 Nov 13:21
The only day we will all be on the same page
cyclingthealps
36 | Link ➤

26 Nov 7:55
Short interest increased (a little) in the period from 10/30/2020 (share price $388) to 11/13/2020 (share price $408)

Shares shorted from 47.800.000 to 47.900.000
Float shorted from 6,34% to 6,32% (which is a decrease, some kind of float increase should have happened in this time period, I will tra...
MXWing
36 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:18
Cashed out some TSLA profit so buy my Bolt today!

(said no one ever)
Open Interest
32 | Link ➤

26 Nov 19:20
I’d like to give thanks to this wonderful Tesla community I feel privileged to be part of.

I can’t thank you enough for the education, the encouragement, discussions and laughs along the way. What a journey it has been, especially this year.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
tinyrodent
32 | Link ➤

26 Nov 21:15
Original German: Verleihung des Axel Springer Awards: "An Evening for Elon Musk - Mission to Mars" live aus Berlin am 1. Dezember, Axel Springer SE, Pressemitteilung - lifePR

Google Translate:

Presentation of the Axel Springer Award: "An Evening for Elon Musk - Mission to Mars" live from Berlin on...
Tes La Ferrari
31 | Link ➤

26 Nov 16:51
A little sad to see her go.

Enjoy the Y!
Chunky Jr.
30 | Link ➤

26 Nov 19:31
On this Thanksgiving, I'm thankful I'm not short TSLA
PeterJA
29 | Link ➤

26 Nov 23:46
Anyone thinking of selling their TSLA shares at $600 or $800 or $1000 should watch this video. The nuclear bomb that will destroy the auto industry as we know it is coming much sooner than most people expect, and your company is gonna unleash it.
Khamul
29 | Link ➤

26 Nov 13:45
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ INTERLUDE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Are you or a loved one suffering from Tickertitis?

Cases of a severe new disease is on the rise: Tickertitis can infect everybody over the age of 18.

At stage one symptoms are mild; decreased movement, dry and itching eyes, and rhythmic spasms ...
Paul_SF
29 | Link ➤

26 Nov 16:47
Happy Thanksgiving!

By next Thanksgiving, Tera Austin and Tera Berlin will be up and running.

Enjoy the ride!
MXWing
29 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:20
Mary Barra, also places a sell rating on GM!

GM CEO Mary Barra Sells $7.7 Million Worth Of GM Stock.
AudubonB
29 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:23
No. That is not how it works for your proposed "Index Fund manager". Manager has to re-allocate all funds according to the S&P's percentile directives.

To keep it simple, let's imagine the Bakewell 4 Index, and posit that it includes Bakewell Enterprises at 40% of the index; MXWing Inc at 25%, Musk...
amolina
28 | Link ➤

26 Nov 23:12
This is what I was implying. Imagine having SP at ATH, but with naked shorts and then Tesla countering it with a stock split.
I hope that you are right about MM's/hedgies not being foolish.

Here is a great FSD video with the latest release 2020.44.15.3. This one should hopefully lead us to US wid...
Words of HABIT
28 | Link ➤

26 Nov 12:55
Canadian pension fund giants call for green COVID-19 recovery

November 25th Yahoo! finance article by Jeff Lagerquist.

"The chief executive officers of eight Canadian pension funds, collectively representing about $1.6 trillion in assets under management, are calling for a green recovery from the ...
feigen66
27 | Link ➤

26 Nov 16:36
Happy Thanksgiving. I am very grateful for all the long term investors, disagreeing or agreeing with me, investing the future of humanity.

People told me the P/E of TSLA is unrealistic. I asked, "What's the P/E to have your children and grandchildren a place to live on Earth?"
Silentkeravelt
24 | Link ➤

26 Nov 1:22
Is he not embarrassed to show photos of his TSLA position on the wall for all to see?
Lycanthrope
23 | Link ➤

26 Nov 18:25
That was the $1 per contract Jan 2021 $650's that @Green Pete gave us the heads-up on last September, sold prematurely in February for $220... Big mistake, currently trading at $2,232 (accounting for split).

That's $2,231,000.00 gains from a single $1000 trade if I had held...

And the June 2022 $1...
Favguy
23 | Link ➤

26 Nov 15:45
I'm very disturbed to see at least 7 of you think this is funny, I'm suffering quite badly from this affliction, especially now I no longer have to go to work, so there are no distractions!! I'm even suffering when the markets are closed as being British, I switch to watching the exchange rate chang...
Artful Dodger
23 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:18
Yeah, the exact opposite happened as Traders are staying at work (or WFH) during this pandemic. Volume built the SP over the day, ending with the simultaneous climax of an Intraday ATH at the ATH Close.

Did I mention the other 2 ATHs today? ATH Open and ATH Intraday Low. Indeed, today was the 4th ...
Artful Dodger
20 | Link ➤

26 Nov 22:10
I explained the details back in Aug and Sep, live as events unfolded. Maybe subscribe?

You don't seem to have really grok'd the purpose and utility of the Share Dividend: if/when Tesla determines that excessive naked short selling has occurred, to the point where it is artificially suppressing TSL...
S3XY
19 | Link ➤

26 Nov 17:27
With the loss of Jack Rickard this year I'm thankful that we still have Sandy Munroe to inform us mere laymen. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

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Daily Roundup: 27 November
Posts from 27 Nov 00:14 GMT to 27 Nov 23:49 GMT
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CorneliusXX
30 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:28
Carsonight has an update on Fremont cell volumes.

https://twitter.com/carsonight/status/1332418955386912768
Curt Renz
28 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:46
MT Newswires within my trading platform - premarket:

Analyst Actions: Northeast Securities Initiates Tesla with Add Rating, Street-High $700 Price Target
amolina
23 | Link ➤

27 Nov 13:55
Found this really cool chart on Chinese EV market. Didn't expect such a share in terms of total Dollars volume.
As an investor, I ask myself, what would it look like once MIC Model Y comes online. Tesla's sales should atleast double in a period of 6-12 months minimum. How many other players can do t...
JBRR
22 | Link ➤

27 Nov 17:09
https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1332362983780081675?s=20

VOLKSWAGEN WILL NOT PRODUCE A SMALL ELECTRIC CAR FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER THREE YEARS - FT
Curt Renz
21 | Link ➤

27 Nov 23:06
ARK has not trimmed any of its quite large TSLA holdings, since it did so on November 19, despite TSLA now on a string of 4 consecutive record highs.

EDIT to Add: TSLA is now 12.89% of ARKQ.
Lycanthrope
16 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:51
As posted earlier (but I don't see it any more), looks like this assassination in Iran has spooked the macro and the MM's are just helping it down

Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, Iran's top nuclear scientist, assassinated near Tehran

Iran's most senior nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh has been assassinate...
Curt Renz
15 | Link ➤

27 Nov 17:22
It's Friday, a weekly options expiration day. A cursory survey makes it appear that the $590 strikes may be the most profitable target for big option writers (mainly hedge funds and market makers).

There is a cost to manipulation, but the prime consideration is that the options expire today, while ...
Tes La Ferrari
15 | Link ➤

27 Nov 17:18
JB’s involvement is why I decided to pull the trigger and take a position in this a while back. Not advice.
Battery startup backed by VW and Tesla cofounder JB Straubel QuantumScape (QS) goes public - Electrek

Interesting quote from the article.

“QuantumScape even impressed Tesla cofounder and f...
Sudre
15 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:08
WOW..... with 38,000 Calls with a strike of $600 sold, today I would say $600 is the line in the sand. I am guessing THEY have been buying up shares like candy all week to cover the $600 strikes but if we close above $600 I just can't see how THEY will be happy at all. The $600 strike was no where n...
UkNorthampton
14 | Link ➤

27 Nov 1:14
Shanghai made Model 3 arrives in Europe by boat.

Tesla ship arrives in Europe with China-made Model 3 exports

https://twitter.com/mortenlund89/status/1332038664084451333

Not sure how it compares to other car carriers in size/capacity

TOSCANA (IMO 9398333, Vehicles Carrier) - Ship Details and Cur...
Lycanthrope
13 | Link ➤

27 Nov 8:41
So, with expected lower volumes (although not a given for this special pandemic-Thanksgiving), what will the manips target?

MP is indicated as $505, but this is not in line with the situation on the field where $542.50 +/- $2.49 would be the closing price of choice for the THEM.

They went for this...
Artful Dodger
12 | Link ➤

27 Nov 23:39
After-action Report: Fri, Nov 27, 2020: (Half-Day Session)

Headline: "TSLA Tickles 600 + Another ATH Close"

Traded: $22,130,498,625.35 ($22.13B)
Volume: 37,486,996
VWAP: $590.35

Close: $585.76 / VWAP: 99.21%
TSLA closed BELOW today's Avg SP
TSLA MaxPain: $520

Mkt Cap: TSLA / TM $555.242B / $195....
UkNorthampton
11 | Link ➤

27 Nov 20:19
BP took over Polar chargers (UK) and now raised prices

New charges (tariffs in UK English) are all more expensive for 150kw.

BP - up to 47p/kwh
UK Tesla is 26p/kwh

Once people understand the advantages of Tesla Supercharging (availability, reliability, cost) - Tesla as a car becomes much more att...
engle
11 | Link ➤

27 Nov 2:40
Russ' $TSLA "Base", "Bear", "Best", and "Elon's 20M units" Share Price Predictions for 12/31/2030

I think @Robocop makes an important point. $AAPL market cap is ~$2T today. If you assume that $TSLA continues to be the dominant force in a growing EV market profit-wise (like Apple over Android), with...
Christine600
10 | Link ➤

27 Nov 19:01
Another interesting tweet from Gary Black affecting deadlines for a possible squeeze:

Important: Since TSLA inclusion is effective before market 12/14 and 12/21, indexers should have full positions in place by Friday 12/11 and 12/18 at end of trading.

https://twitter.com/garyblack00/status/1332379...
gabeincal
10 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:14
Lost about $20k. On that trade. Sigh...
traxila
10 | Link ➤

27 Nov 14:45
OT:

For those interested in the claimed main competition for batteries to TSLA, which will probably not start selling actual solid state batteries until 2024, the reverse merger is official and QuantumScape is now trading as QS. VW banking on them big time.

Hope they succeed...plenty of market ou...
Curt Renz
10 | Link ➤

27 Nov 5:31
Forbes - half hour ago: New U.S. Climate Portfolio Must Emphasize Innovation And Grid Development, IEA Chief Says
Curt Renz
9 | Link ➤

27 Nov 20:08
TD Ameritrade Network - this morning:
Cherry Wine
9 | Link ➤

27 Nov 14:55
Very light on the sell side today.

EDIT: 7:07 AM PDT: Sell-side looking much more robust now.
NakedLong
8 | Link ➤

27 Nov 23:29
I always considered myself a super bull on Tesla, but the stock has gone up considerably faster than myself and pretty much everyone else imagined. I have several thoughts around this topic, but my general idea is that we have a massive conservative bias with our Tesla predictions.

Take a look back...
Artful Dodger
8 | Link ➤

27 Nov 7:37
Tesla trading at €479.75 early in the session at Tradegate Berlin (TLO) (the equivalent of $571.92). Light volume with just 3.4K shares traded so far.

Cheers!
petit_bateau
8 | Link ➤

27 Nov 10:04
Scenario analysis like yours or Ark's are a good way to view this. Here is a very crude version of that.

If you consider that AAPL gets a ~$2t market cap from a 12% global market share for $1k devices & their associated revenue & cost ecology. In comparison TSLA's mid-case of 10mln cars/yr by 2030 ...
OrthoSurg
8 | Link ➤

27 Nov 2:14
Wow, the improvement rate is incredible.
Just drove the last 2 days with FSD in the snow in Montreal highways in the worst conditions and it behaves really great. Not perfect when the road are snowy but I see robotaxis happening within next 2 years.

The stock price will go insane.

That’s a 10T mar...
Knightshade
7 | Link ➤

27 Nov 20:35
Look at battery production- current and projected- that's how.

Tesla, if they execute everything perfectly through about 2030, hopes to have enough batteries to replace roughly 25% of annual ICE sales in a year including supply from partners.

And Tesla is well ahead of everyone else in their plans...

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Cattledog
85 | Link ➤

27 Nov 0:48
Way back in early 2013, after we had been driving our 2012 Model S for a month or two, I was gushing about the car on this forum, 'best car I've ever owned, etc.'. Someone remarked, 'You realize you own the WORST version of the Model S Tesla is ever going to make.' Bingo, pushed more chips into the ...
Curt Renz
60 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:00
$DJI +0.1%
COMP +0.9%
SPX +0.2%

NKLA -7.6%
GM -0.9%
F +0.1%
FCAU +0.3%

TSLA +2.0%

A fourth consecutive session of TSLA all-time intraday and closing highs
Ameliorate
51 | Link ➤

27 Nov 3:54
Happy thanksgiving to my neighbors!

All time high's are pretty nice, might be at a bit of an ATH myself.
Feeling like my truck order will be a few years yet so this inventory model X happened. O.O
Probably retire my parents dangerous old vehicle and split the usage of the X and my current truck ...
SOULPEDL
43 | Link ➤

27 Nov 20:40
Done - Model Y w/ FSD, White Seats, Metallic Blue.
Cyber still on order. Get em while you can, I'm serious.
JaredM3
37 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:48
Thank you for confirming which I was already 99% decided was to hold them and just add to it. I hope to be able to put another 50-100k by the end of January.

I love the atmosphere in here and how everyone just wants to help everyone, and share their knowledge and experiences regardless of their pos...
Words of HABIT
35 | Link ➤

27 Nov 0:16
Dave Lee's Investment Podcost 198. What's next for Tesla.
Dave was a big reason why I invested in Tesla January 2013 after reading his posts on TMC since October 2012. And a big part of why I am still invested in Tesla today.
Thanks Dave. Thanks TMC. Thanks Tesla.
Unpilot
33 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:58
Hope you all have a good weekend.
Go outside walk in nature..hug your loved ones.
Be thankful for all you have.

Then put the helmet and seat belts on because next week is going to be a wild fun ride!
NakedLong
32 | Link ➤

27 Nov 23:29
I always considered myself a super bull on Tesla, but the stock has gone up considerably faster than myself and pretty much everyone else imagined. I have several thoughts around this topic, but my general idea is that we have a massive conservative bias with our Tesla predictions.

Take a look back...
Johan
32 | Link ➤

27 Nov 13:59
I was going to post that the last few months reminds of the time period in 2013 where we had multi-dag huge gap-ups and those enormous upticks after ERs, in which I made a small fortune trading options which almost paid for my Model S. So I looked up a quick stock price chart overview for all of TSL...
Todd Burch
25 | Link ➤

27 Nov 19:54
No offense to anyone holding FB, but I can’t understand how it’s STILL worth more than Tesla. It’s basically a webpage with a thumbs-up button and the most complicated logic is that if I know Joey, and Jesus knows Joey, then I know Jesus.

Meanwhile, Tesla is transforming the world and teaching cars...
samppa
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:37
It's been a great week! Looking forward to next 3 weeks
Time to celebrate a bit
Sancho
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:04
Let’s use the holiday weekend to rest and restore. The month ahead should be wild.

Happy holidays to you and your families.
hobbes
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:01
I found the reason TSLA´s up again today:

Unbelievable. Just wow.
engle
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 2:40
Russ' $TSLA "Base", "Bear", "Best", and "Elon's 20M units" Share Price Predictions for 12/31/2030

I think @Robocop makes an important point. $AAPL market cap is ~$2T today. If you assume that $TSLA continues to be the dominant force in a growing EV market profit-wise (like Apple over Android), with...
StealthP3D
22 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:52
Yep. I always use a logarithmic chart for longer time periods:

In this logarithmic chart, those early days 2011-2012 look just almost as good as recent performance except for one thing. I was fully aware of Tesla since before it went public and had plenty of investment capital when they did. But I ...
heltok
21 | Link ➤

27 Nov 1:39
The progress from first FSD beta to current FSD beta has been incredible. Sure it has mainly been bug fixes, but it seems that the neural network is also improving. If this keeps going then we will very rapidly approach 99.9999%. At some point bugfixes will slow and it will be more a grind of uncomm...
JaredM3
20 | Link ➤

27 Nov 20:41
Hi Everyone,

I just want to start off by saying I’m a complete noob when it comes to anything stocks. I’ve always been leary about it as I know a few people who have lost quite a bit. I turned to real estate instead.

While I’m not by any means wealthy, I live comfortably within my means. I remembe...
corduroy
19 | Link ➤

27 Nov 15:25
The more I learn hanging around here, the more it all comes down to 1 rule:
Todd Burch
19 | Link ➤

27 Nov 14:47
Getting ready to pop open my “she at $3k equivalent and this ain’t even close to done” champagne for breakfast.
Brian121
19 | Link ➤

27 Nov 15:10
Alcohol is not suitable for me. so instead ... ...
Prunesquallor
18 | Link ➤

27 Nov 22:43
Tesla Storms the S&P 500. Here’s the Bull Case.
-Barron's

OK, all you meme-makers. Have at it!
Nocturnal
18 | Link ➤

27 Nov 1:56
Musk was bullied greatly as a kid. He hates bullies. When you have gone through that trauma it’s formative in your personality. I can relate.
Brian121
16 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:01
FTFY
OrthoSurg
16 | Link ➤

27 Nov 2:14
Wow, the improvement rate is incredible.
Just drove the last 2 days with FSD in the snow in Montreal highways in the worst conditions and it behaves really great. Not perfect when the road are snowy but I see robotaxis happening within next 2 years.

The stock price will go insane.

That’s a 10T mar...
Phobi
15 | Link ➤

27 Nov 14:56
ehem...

(Picked up 2 pre-market @ 572 btw )

Long and strong.

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H Mak
25 | Link ➤

27 Nov 13:39
My god it's looking like it might hit $600. Investing in Tesla is costing me a fortune in champagne!
This was only last week:
TheTalkingMule
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 14:52
Hadn't planned on drinking today.
ZsoZso
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 14:41
Kolodny - Lopez joint article: TSLA is doomed, they can't even organize a proper Black Friday sale, the price goes up instead of down. Who would be an idiot to buy ? Clearly they are going bankwupt!
SOULPEDL
22 | Link ➤

27 Nov 15:03
I'm concerned - all the headlines for today on TD site...
Better sell another 100 shares!
Nocturnal
19 | Link ➤

27 Nov 15:15
Even my Ex would at least wait until I finished my coffee.
SOULPEDL
19 | Link ➤

27 Nov 14:59
The day day just started and you're calling me a loser already?
Nocturnal
17 | Link ➤

27 Nov 15:40
Soon
Ipe
17 | Link ➤

27 Nov 14:37
Well so much for my buy order at $541
SOULPEDL
15 | Link ➤

27 Nov 15:14
{no text}
Lycanthrope
13 | Link ➤

27 Nov 15:16
Probably why we haven't heard from @NicoV for some time = liver failure...

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Cattledog
92 | Link ➤

27 Nov 0:48
Way back in early 2013, after we had been driving our 2012 Model S for a month or two, I was gushing about the car on this forum, 'best car I've ever owned, etc.'. Someone remarked, 'You realize you own the WORST version of the Model S Tesla is ever going to make.' Bingo, pushed more chips into the ...
Curt Renz
61 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:00
$DJI +0.1%
COMP +0.9%
SPX +0.2%

NKLA -7.6%
GM -0.9%
F +0.1%
FCAU +0.3%

TSLA +2.0%

A fourth consecutive session of TSLA all-time intraday and closing highs
Ameliorate
53 | Link ➤

27 Nov 3:54
Happy thanksgiving to my neighbors!

All time high's are pretty nice, might be at a bit of an ATH myself.
Feeling like my truck order will be a few years yet so this inventory model X happened. O.O
Probably retire my parents dangerous old vehicle and split the usage of the X and my current truck ...
SOULPEDL
44 | Link ➤

27 Nov 20:40
Done - Model Y w/ FSD, White Seats, Metallic Blue.
Cyber still on order. Get em while you can, I'm serious.
NakedLong
40 | Link ➤

27 Nov 23:29
I always considered myself a super bull on Tesla, but the stock has gone up considerably faster than myself and pretty much everyone else imagined. I have several thoughts around this topic, but my general idea is that we have a massive conservative bias with our Tesla predictions.

Take a look back...
JaredM3
38 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:48
Thank you for confirming which I was already 99% decided was to hold them and just add to it. I hope to be able to put another 50-100k by the end of January.

I love the atmosphere in here and how everyone just wants to help everyone, and share their knowledge and experiences regardless of their pos...
Words of HABIT
38 | Link ➤

27 Nov 0:16
Dave Lee's Investment Podcost 198. What's next for Tesla.
Dave was a big reason why I invested in Tesla January 2013 after reading his posts on TMC since October 2012. And a big part of why I am still invested in Tesla today.
Thanks Dave. Thanks TMC. Thanks Tesla.
Johan
37 | Link ➤

27 Nov 13:59
I was going to post that the last few months reminds of the time period in 2013 where we had multi-dag huge gap-ups and those enormous upticks after ERs, in which I made a small fortune trading options which almost paid for my Model S. So I looked up a quick stock price chart overview for all of TSL...
Unpilot
36 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:58
Hope you all have a good weekend.
Go outside walk in nature..hug your loved ones.
Be thankful for all you have.

Then put the helmet and seat belts on because next week is going to be a wild fun ride!
Todd Burch
35 | Link ➤

27 Nov 19:54
No offense to anyone holding FB, but I can’t understand how it’s STILL worth more than Tesla. It’s basically a webpage with a thumbs-up button and the most complicated logic is that if I know Joey, and Jesus knows Joey, then I know Jesus.

Meanwhile, Tesla is transforming the world and teaching cars...
engle
35 | Link ➤

27 Nov 2:40
Russ' $TSLA "Base", "Bear", "Best", and "Elon's 20M units" Share Price Predictions for 12/31/2030

I think @Robocop makes an important point. $AAPL market cap is ~$2T today. If you assume that $TSLA continues to be the dominant force in a growing EV market profit-wise (like Apple over Android), with...
CorneliusXX
34 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:28
Carsonight has an update on Fremont cell volumes.

https://twitter.com/carsonight/status/1332418955386912768
amolina
31 | Link ➤

27 Nov 13:55
Found this really cool chart on Chinese EV market. Didn't expect such a share in terms of total Dollars volume.
As an investor, I ask myself, what would it look like once MIC Model Y comes online. Tesla's sales should atleast double in a period of 6-12 months minimum. How many other players can do t...
Prunesquallor
30 | Link ➤

27 Nov 22:43
Tesla Storms the S&P 500. Here’s the Bull Case.
-Barron's

OK, all you meme-makers. Have at it!
Curt Renz
30 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:46
MT Newswires within my trading platform - premarket:

Analyst Actions: Northeast Securities Initiates Tesla with Add Rating, Street-High $700 Price Target
TheTalkingMule
30 | Link ➤

27 Nov 14:52
Hadn't planned on drinking today.
hobbes
28 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:01
I found the reason TSLA´s up again today:

Unbelievable. Just wow.
H Mak
27 | Link ➤

27 Nov 13:39
My god it's looking like it might hit $600. Investing in Tesla is costing me a fortune in champagne!
This was only last week:
StealthP3D
26 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:52
Yep. I always use a logarithmic chart for longer time periods:

In this logarithmic chart, those early days 2011-2012 look just almost as good as recent performance except for one thing. I was fully aware of Tesla since before it went public and had plenty of investment capital when they did. But I ...
samppa
26 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:37
It's been a great week! Looking forward to next 3 weeks
Time to celebrate a bit
JBRR
26 | Link ➤

27 Nov 17:09
https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1332362983780081675?s=20

VOLKSWAGEN WILL NOT PRODUCE A SMALL ELECTRIC CAR FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER THREE YEARS - FT
Sancho
25 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:04
Let’s use the holiday weekend to rest and restore. The month ahead should be wild.

Happy holidays to you and your families.
heltok
25 | Link ➤

27 Nov 1:39
The progress from first FSD beta to current FSD beta has been incredible. Sure it has mainly been bug fixes, but it seems that the neural network is also improving. If this keeps going then we will very rapidly approach 99.9999%. At some point bugfixes will slow and it will be more a grind of uncomm...
Curt Renz
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 23:06
ARK has not trimmed any of its quite large TSLA holdings, since it did so on November 19, despite TSLA now on a string of 4 consecutive record highs.

EDIT to Add: TSLA is now 12.89% of ARKQ.
SOULPEDL
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 15:03
I'm concerned - all the headlines for today on TD site...
Better sell another 100 shares!

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Mich
7 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:26
if ark is not selling it's a good sign. If they are selling its just a mandatory operation based on their guidelines. This information is worthless.
Mo City
7 | Link ➤

27 Nov 6:29
Agree or disagree: It is very likely TSLA closes at $670 or above next Thursday or Friday?

Comments also much appreciated.
Runarbt
3 | Link ➤

27 Nov 17:41
No. Mostly its FIFO - First In First Out.
euro2012
2 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:17
I dipped into some margin to pick up some Jan 15 $700’s as well. Thanks for all of your guidance.
FS_FRA
2 | Link ➤

27 Nov 7:10
TL.0 opened at €479.30 ($570.80) in Frankfurt.

Good luck to all on this short trading day.

I'm hoping for a significant dip
 
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Daily Roundup: 28 November
Posts from 28 Nov 00:06 GMT to 28 Nov 23:31 GMT
Votes as of 29 Nov 21:13 GMT

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Todesbuckler
32 | Link ➤

28 Nov 10:00
New video from Giga Shanghai with first Model Y doing the test track:

Yason Yang:
"I have seen Tesla Model Y for testing in GF3 many times, which means that GF3 will soon be able to mass produce model Y, just waiting for the production license and sales license."
Artful Dodger
32 | Link ➤

28 Nov 2:53
Only if history repeats:

8 days in August:

8 days in November:

Hint: the August run was 15 days (not 8), and was fueled by just $5B in forced buying (not $50B).

TL;dr We're just about half way into this run. And the end is Dec 24, not Dec 21 (Index funds can buy +/- 3 days of the effective inclu...
Right_Said_Fred
17 | Link ➤

28 Nov 18:51
Have we reached the top of this runup at 598 yesterday? I believe we have not, if you compare it to the other runups we had this year.

- All of those tops were a blow off top: 965 pre-split in January, 1796 pre-split in July, 498 post-split in August (if you count the 540 in premarket the next day)...
The Martian
15 | Link ➤

28 Nov 1:34
Agreed. Among other points, the above point is even overlooked by a lot of Tesla bulls. In below tweet, Cobra Kai is referring to Dojo. I remember in other Dojo related Elon tweets, when someone asked if Dojo will be available to other people for NN training, Elon said Yes. That mean Tesla intend to...
Curt Renz
11 | Link ➤

28 Nov 2:51
A YouTuber comes to the conclusion that many media outlets actually shun Tesla because it does not pay for advertising. Surprise! Surprise! He points to a glaring example in the Sunday London Times of November 15.

Sam Alexander - Nov 22:
UkNorthampton
9 | Link ➤

28 Nov 21:32
if you read the guardian article mentioned by @UnknownSoldier (caution advised, it's awful), the taycan owners didn't plan - they relied on the car's navigation system. - ‘Why did it take nine hours to go 130 miles in our new electric Porsche?’

Now, you can do that in a Tesla in most places but any...
jbcarioca
8 | Link ➤

28 Nov 16:00
Somehow I cannot resist pointing out the folly of conventional thinking. Just consider the following:

Parts of the 'Nifty 50'. Today
Xerox Amazon
Polaroid Tesla
Eastman Kodak Apple

I was active during the 'Nifty 50'. The three Nifty 50 for all practical purposes do not exist although all three ha...
JBRR
8 | Link ➤

28 Nov 10:27
Herbert Diess: "The change will take place in ten years - with or without Volkswagen"

„In rund zehn Jahren werden wir autonom fahren können“

Google Translate

How we transform Volkswagen
st_lopes
8 | Link ➤

28 Nov 4:52
A high balance in a TFSA could get you some attention (I suspect mine will). Though the bar for CRA to be able to recategorize your gains as taxable is fairly high. Note that the outcome of such a re-categorization is worse than just going from non taxable to capital gain treatment (eg 50% of gain b...
BrownOuttaSpec
7 | Link ➤

28 Nov 18:58
Not sure if you guys have had your car in for service recently (or ever) but mine is right now. I called the service center number and it recognized the number I called from and that my car was in service and it informed me of the status. Pretty slick, I was impressed. I remember reading that they d...
Knightshade
7 | Link ➤

28 Nov 14:31
Even Obsborne didn't actually Osborne themselves- there's a lot of urban legend around how much this actually happens.

Yes- his video has been discussed in this thread numerous times- real world #s are already behind his optimistic predictions- and his claims regarding how fast we moved from horse ...
capster
6 | Link ➤

28 Nov 20:41
Would you please break up the walls of text you post by adding a blank line between your paragraphs (two carriage returns instead of one on this forum) or indenting the first line of each paragraph?

You have some worthwhile contributions but it’s harder to get at them with no visible structure to h...
mejojo
6 | Link ➤

28 Nov 20:47
Note that "unmarried" does not equal "single"
Brian121
6 | Link ➤

28 Nov 12:54
Agree. Even Ross Gerber, arguably one of the most vocal and most articulating Tesla bull analysist had an episode.

Last year when Tesla started to take off and reached a price of either 400 or 500, Ross's tune changed. For a couple of days he started to tweet stuff like: This is the once in a life ...
Artful Dodger
6 | Link ➤

28 Nov 11:00
Lol! That old plan for Giga Shanghai is years out-of-date and inaccurate even for existing Model 3 facilities. Best to just view a few drone videos from local Tesla enthusiast Wu Wa.

Cheers!
Todd Burch
6 | Link ➤

28 Nov 11:57
Referring to this Twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/truth_tesla/status/1332613785572532224?s=21

It’s been funny to watch Gary Black’s tweets the last few weeks.

When S&P inclusion announcement came, he was pumping TSLA and calling an expected top around $550.

This seemed quite low to me, and it...
StealthP3D
5 | Link ➤

28 Nov 4:05
Exactly. We speak of a lot here of Tesla trying not to "Osborne" sales of one product with another, newer, better product. But the real Osborne effect is that EV's Osborne traditional ICE autos as people gradually figure out how superior an EV is to ICE. That is why legacy auto is dragging their fee...
UkNorthampton
4 | Link ➤

28 Nov 22:19
Joint statement of the Zero Emission Vehicle Transition Council
Joint statement of the Zero Emission Vehicle Transition Council

Quite a wide selection of countries. Not all 26 though.

Signatories:
Alok Sharma, COP President and Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, UK
Be...
Knightshade
4 | Link ➤

28 Nov 19:59
I mean- either you believe Elon or you don't.

He told us on BD the reason they're dumping all these resources into batteries and doing tons of stuff nobody else is doing is, they hope, if they perfectly execute everything on multiple fronts, to reach 20 million a year production on or before 2030.
...
clmason
4 | Link ➤

28 Nov 16:44
With the next 2-3 weeks of S&P inclusion drama, I fully expect Elon to fuel the fire with something new that no one was thinking about. When the dust settles I predict $650B market cap and then shortly thereafter Tesla will announce a new CEO comp plan that lays out a roadmap to $2T market cap.
Right_Said_Fred
4 | Link ➤

28 Nov 18:30
And another 11 posts on taxes deducted from this thread.

They can now be found at Tax questions and strategies
StealthP3D
4 | Link ➤

28 Nov 14:28
I see the "worries" and "concerns" have started.

1) There is no such thing as a concerning "too high a rise in SP". If the shares go too high, they will come back down. Problem solved. Those of us who are long-term holders have seen that happen in the past and are certain to see it happen in the fu...
hobbes
4 | Link ➤

28 Nov 7:22
Tesla mentioned 31 times at Volkswagen call a week ago:
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
amolina
4 | Link ➤

28 Nov 1:29
FSD Beta reaching Canada according to Twitter
https://twitter.com/FSDBetaCanada/status/1332050678047510531
Johann Koeber
3 | Link ➤

28 Nov 16:09
Business here in Germany is going really well, it seems.

2 weeks ago I ordered another M3 (and last week an MS Plaid). The order page said Feb2021 delivery. Yesterday I got a call that I could take delivery this year if I wish.

So my new M3 has a tentative delivery date of Dec. 24, which is remark...

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Todd Burch
92 | Link ➤

28 Nov 11:57
Referring to this Twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/truth_tesla/status/1332613785572532224?s=21

It’s been funny to watch Gary Black’s tweets the last few weeks.

When S&P inclusion announcement came, he was pumping TSLA and calling an expected top around $550.

This seemed quite low to me, and it...
cliffski
44 | Link ➤

28 Nov 13:52
Just had a sudden realization about robototaxis.

As someone who doesn't really need the extra income, and lives somewhere rural (not exactly an uber service in all these fields) I had always assumed that robotaxi would be useless for me, and people like me, who live in super-low density locations/....
StealthP3D
40 | Link ➤

28 Nov 7:42
That's funny. Because S&P snubbed Tesla by not including them when they were clearly eligible, then they realized they were in a pickle that was getting worse with each passing profitable quarter. Better late than never, but they basically proved they needed Tesla more than Tesla needed them. Elon h...
StealthP3D
40 | Link ➤

28 Nov 4:05
Exactly. We speak of a lot here of Tesla trying not to "Osborne" sales of one product with another, newer, better product. But the real Osborne effect is that EV's Osborne traditional ICE autos as people gradually figure out how superior an EV is to ICE. That is why legacy auto is dragging their fee...
Right_Said_Fred
39 | Link ➤

28 Nov 18:51
Have we reached the top of this runup at 598 yesterday? I believe we have not, if you compare it to the other runups we had this year.

- All of those tops were a blow off top: 965 pre-split in January, 1796 pre-split in July, 498 post-split in August (if you count the 540 in premarket the next day)...
Johann Koeber
39 | Link ➤

28 Nov 16:09
Business here in Germany is going really well, it seems.

2 weeks ago I ordered another M3 (and last week an MS Plaid). The order page said Feb2021 delivery. Yesterday I got a call that I could take delivery this year if I wish.

So my new M3 has a tentative delivery date of Dec. 24, which is remark...
StealthP3D
33 | Link ➤

28 Nov 14:28
I see the "worries" and "concerns" have started.

1) There is no such thing as a concerning "too high a rise in SP". If the shares go too high, they will come back down. Problem solved. Those of us who are long-term holders have seen that happen in the past and are certain to see it happen in the fu...
JBRR
26 | Link ➤

28 Nov 10:27
Herbert Diess: "The change will take place in ten years - with or without Volkswagen"

„In rund zehn Jahren werden wir autonom fahren können“

Google Translate

How we transform Volkswagen
Navin
24 | Link ➤

28 Nov 17:44
The $20 million of Tesla stock Elon Musk purchased as part of his SEC settlement is now worth $167m
Artful Dodger
21 | Link ➤

28 Nov 4:18
FTFY. Now, wanna bet it hits 695 next week? And it's still a long way to Dec 24th.

TL;dr HODL
EVMeister
20 | Link ➤

28 Nov 8:30
Indeed they do. You can press the "Support TMC" button in the footer to find out more. You get a neat ltitle badge under your name to show for it. I have one, too. I didn't do it for the badge, I did it because I use this site daily and it provides unique insights and information. I first gave suppo...
Artful Dodger
19 | Link ➤

28 Nov 5:03
Indeed, 4th consequtive day of TSLA ATHs in all 4 categories:

Open
High
Low
Close
And, we're now up +43.5% over the past 8 sessions.

Cheers!
Artful Dodger
18 | Link ➤

28 Nov 7:56
You're joking, right? Dojo will see things you wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. Watch C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be etched in time, like lightning in the rain. Time to live.

Ask me again in 500 years. Then we'll see ...
StealthP3D
16 | Link ➤

28 Nov 20:26
I would suggest you believe I'm being inconsistent because you didn't bother to actually understand what I said. It might be necessary to leave personal biases behind and read it again.

Tesla had settled down to a nice solid $408/share before S&P announced they had decided to include them. By my re...
jkirkwood001
16 | Link ➤

28 Nov 4:56
Personally, it's Apple I question the value of. Phone hardware is becoming commodity (how many pixels do you need in your image. Really.) And they don't get "it's the information, stupid" as well as Google. I know the vast majority will disagree with me on this (yeah, about $2T disagree!) Not an App...
Brian121
15 | Link ➤

28 Nov 12:54
Agree. Even Ross Gerber, arguably one of the most vocal and most articulating Tesla bull analysist had an episode.

Last year when Tesla started to take off and reached a price of either 400 or 500, Ross's tune changed. For a couple of days he started to tweet stuff like: This is the once in a life ...
StealthP3D
15 | Link ➤

28 Nov 14:41
I am fully aware of the history of the term "Osborne". You are repeating yourself and bringing up things that are completely irrelevant to the discussion. However, the term is a real term with a real meaning and is often used to denote a specific thing that actually occurs to this day across many di...
charlesgres
14 | Link ➤

28 Nov 12:05
I agree.. I derive little value of what he's saying.. He'll always confidently state what will happen, and it never happens..
Johnny Ma
14 | Link ➤

28 Nov 2:08
Been a while since I've visited but just needed to say:

Wow. Incredible post. Glad more people know who Gwern is.

Anyway, I'm not selling even after today's, the week's, the month's, the year's SP action. You need to think a lot bigger if you're going to get my shares.
capster
13 | Link ➤

28 Nov 20:41
Would you please break up the walls of text you post by adding a blank line between your paragraphs (two carriage returns instead of one on this forum) or indenting the first line of each paragraph?

You have some worthwhile contributions but it’s harder to get at them with no visible structure to h...
clmason
12 | Link ➤

28 Nov 16:44
With the next 2-3 weeks of S&P inclusion drama, I fully expect Elon to fuel the fire with something new that no one was thinking about. When the dust settles I predict $650B market cap and then shortly thereafter Tesla will announce a new CEO comp plan that lays out a roadmap to $2T market cap.
jbcarioca
12 | Link ➤

28 Nov 16:00
Somehow I cannot resist pointing out the folly of conventional thinking. Just consider the following:

Parts of the 'Nifty 50'. Today
Xerox Amazon
Polaroid Tesla
Eastman Kodak Apple

I was active during the 'Nifty 50'. The three Nifty 50 for all practical purposes do not exist although all three ha...
LiveLong&Profit
12 | Link ➤

28 Nov 12:46
Right.
Kinda strange that it is actually easy to believe that traditional automakers are not cutting edge. A few years back I would have thought that the traditional automaker were paragons of efficiency and innovation. Tesla was accused, FUD'ingly but also partially truthfully of being bad at manu...
BrownOuttaSpec
11 | Link ➤

28 Nov 18:58
Not sure if you guys have had your car in for service recently (or ever) but mine is right now. I called the service center number and it recognized the number I called from and that my car was in service and it informed me of the status. Pretty slick, I was impressed. I remember reading that they d...
vikings123
11 | Link ➤

28 Nov 15:55
I couldn’t agree with you more. I remember the day when S&P snubbed TSLA back in September. The tone of his tweet had me concerned that the guy would something to himself. It was pretty funny to see him go from pumping S&P inclusion to acting like the world was coming to an end.

While I appreciate ...

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Nocturnal
60 | Link ➤

28 Nov 15:11
Before I became a Tesla investor I actually enjoyed weekends.
Navin
26 | Link ➤

28 Nov 17:44
The $20 million of Tesla stock Elon Musk purchased as part of his SEC settlement is now worth $167m
Artful Dodger
25 | Link ➤

28 Nov 5:23
... or MAGNET

MSFT
APPL
GOOGL
NFLX
ETSY
TSLA
Cheers!
Rammstein
13 | Link ➤

28 Nov 5:52
Who’s looking forward to putting a bed in the back of the Cybertruck and put it in self driving. So many fun things I can think of while in the bed and the truck is driving itself.
OrthoSurg
11 | Link ➤

28 Nov 12:13
One of my coworker always dreamed of a Porsche because he consider himself a “purist”. What does it mean theses days? Who knows
But the range of the Taycan ended up being so ridiculous particularly with the cold weather here in Canada, that he just told me he decided to buy an etron. Damn brand loya...
StealthP3D
11 | Link ➤

28 Nov 0:16
Also, it's a good rule to not sell any covered calls before any dramatic rises that are completely unexpected.

/s
bestfind
7 | Link ➤

28 Nov 7:17
Anyone else wondering how short and longer term demand will hold up with just two very similar models responsible for all growth?

For Europe I first thought that everything was sold out this quarter as they moved delivery in the design center to February. Now it seems that the inventory list has be...
dw4ngg
6 | Link ➤

28 Nov 3:35
Father Time
LTC_RRR
5 | Link ➤

28 Nov 22:27
California isn't a country . . . yet
Navin
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28 Nov 17:18
I’m sure the lady who always attends shareholder meetings and asks questions about NOT using leather for Tesla cars will enjoy this feature immensely.

Top 5 Authors - Funny


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Todd Burch
98 | Link ➤

28 Nov 11:57
Referring to this Twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/truth_tesla/status/1332613785572532224?s=21

It’s been funny to watch Gary Black’s tweets the last few weeks.

When S&P inclusion announcement came, he was pumping TSLA and calling an expected top around $550.

This seemed quite low to me, and it...
Nocturnal
69 | Link ➤

28 Nov 15:11
Before I became a Tesla investor I actually enjoyed weekends.
Right_Said_Fred
56 | Link ➤

28 Nov 18:51
Have we reached the top of this runup at 598 yesterday? I believe we have not, if you compare it to the other runups we had this year.

- All of those tops were a blow off top: 965 pre-split in January, 1796 pre-split in July, 498 post-split in August (if you count the 540 in premarket the next day)...
Navin
52 | Link ➤

28 Nov 17:44
The $20 million of Tesla stock Elon Musk purchased as part of his SEC settlement is now worth $167m
cliffski
45 | Link ➤

28 Nov 13:52
Just had a sudden realization about robototaxis.

As someone who doesn't really need the extra income, and lives somewhere rural (not exactly an uber service in all these fields) I had always assumed that robotaxi would be useless for me, and people like me, who live in super-low density locations/....
StealthP3D
45 | Link ➤

28 Nov 4:05
Exactly. We speak of a lot here of Tesla trying not to "Osborne" sales of one product with another, newer, better product. But the real Osborne effect is that EV's Osborne traditional ICE autos as people gradually figure out how superior an EV is to ICE. That is why legacy auto is dragging their fee...
Johann Koeber
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28 Nov 16:09
Business here in Germany is going really well, it seems.

2 weeks ago I ordered another M3 (and last week an MS Plaid). The order page said Feb2021 delivery. Yesterday I got a call that I could take delivery this year if I wish.

So my new M3 has a tentative delivery date of Dec. 24, which is remark...
StealthP3D
42 | Link ➤

28 Nov 7:42
That's funny. Because S&P snubbed Tesla by not including them when they were clearly eligible, then they realized they were in a pickle that was getting worse with each passing profitable quarter. Better late than never, but they basically proved they needed Tesla more than Tesla needed them. Elon h...
Artful Dodger
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28 Nov 2:53
Only if history repeats:

8 days in August:

8 days in November:

Hint: the August run was 15 days (not 8), and was fueled by just $5B in forced buying (not $50B).

TL;dr We're just about half way into this run. And the end is Dec 24, not Dec 21 (Index funds can buy +/- 3 days of the effective inclu...
StealthP3D
37 | Link ➤

28 Nov 14:28
I see the "worries" and "concerns" have started.

1) There is no such thing as a concerning "too high a rise in SP". If the shares go too high, they will come back down. Problem solved. Those of us who are long-term holders have seen that happen in the past and are certain to see it happen in the fu...
Todesbuckler
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28 Nov 10:00
New video from Giga Shanghai with first Model Y doing the test track:

Yason Yang:
"I have seen Tesla Model Y for testing in GF3 many times, which means that GF3 will soon be able to mass produce model Y, just waiting for the production license and sales license."
JBRR
35 | Link ➤

28 Nov 10:27
Herbert Diess: "The change will take place in ten years - with or without Volkswagen"

„In rund zehn Jahren werden wir autonom fahren können“

Google Translate

How we transform Volkswagen
Artful Dodger
26 | Link ➤

28 Nov 5:23
... or MAGNET

MSFT
APPL
GOOGL
NFLX
ETSY
TSLA
Cheers!
Artful Dodger
24 | Link ➤

28 Nov 7:56
You're joking, right? Dojo will see things you wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. Watch C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be etched in time, like lightning in the rain. Time to live.

Ask me again in 500 years. Then we'll see ...
EVMeister
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28 Nov 8:30
Indeed they do. You can press the "Support TMC" button in the footer to find out more. You get a neat ltitle badge under your name to show for it. I have one, too. I didn't do it for the badge, I did it because I use this site daily and it provides unique insights and information. I first gave suppo...
Artful Dodger
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28 Nov 4:18
FTFY. Now, wanna bet it hits 695 next week? And it's still a long way to Dec 24th.

TL;dr HODL
Brian121
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28 Nov 12:54
Agree. Even Ross Gerber, arguably one of the most vocal and most articulating Tesla bull analysist had an episode.

Last year when Tesla started to take off and reached a price of either 400 or 500, Ross's tune changed. For a couple of days he started to tweet stuff like: This is the once in a life ...
Curt Renz
21 | Link ➤

28 Nov 2:51
A YouTuber comes to the conclusion that many media outlets actually shun Tesla because it does not pay for advertising. Surprise! Surprise! He points to a glaring example in the Sunday London Times of November 15.

Sam Alexander - Nov 22:
Artful Dodger
21 | Link ➤

28 Nov 5:03
Indeed, 4th consequtive day of TSLA ATHs in all 4 categories:

Open
High
Low
Close
And, we're now up +43.5% over the past 8 sessions.

Cheers!
jbcarioca
20 | Link ➤

28 Nov 16:00
Somehow I cannot resist pointing out the folly of conventional thinking. Just consider the following:

Parts of the 'Nifty 50'. Today
Xerox Amazon
Polaroid Tesla
Eastman Kodak Apple

I was active during the 'Nifty 50'. The three Nifty 50 for all practical purposes do not exist although all three ha...
Rammstein
20 | Link ➤

28 Nov 5:52
Who’s looking forward to putting a bed in the back of the Cybertruck and put it in self driving. So many fun things I can think of while in the bed and the truck is driving itself.
The Martian
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28 Nov 1:34
Agreed. Among other points, the above point is even overlooked by a lot of Tesla bulls. In below tweet, Cobra Kai is referring to Dojo. I remember in other Dojo related Elon tweets, when someone asked if Dojo will be available to other people for NN training, Elon said Yes. That mean Tesla intend to...
capster
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28 Nov 20:41
Would you please break up the walls of text you post by adding a blank line between your paragraphs (two carriage returns instead of one on this forum) or indenting the first line of each paragraph?

You have some worthwhile contributions but it’s harder to get at them with no visible structure to h...
BrownOuttaSpec
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28 Nov 18:58
Not sure if you guys have had your car in for service recently (or ever) but mine is right now. I called the service center number and it recognized the number I called from and that my car was in service and it informed me of the status. Pretty slick, I was impressed. I remember reading that they d...
clmason
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28 Nov 16:44
With the next 2-3 weeks of S&P inclusion drama, I fully expect Elon to fuel the fire with something new that no one was thinking about. When the dust settles I predict $650B market cap and then shortly thereafter Tesla will announce a new CEO comp plan that lays out a roadmap to $2T market cap.

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jkirkwood001
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28 Nov 4:56
Personally, it's Apple I question the value of. Phone hardware is becoming commodity (how many pixels do you need in your image. Really.) And they don't get "it's the information, stupid" as well as Google. I know the vast majority will disagree with me on this (yeah, about $2T disagree!) Not an App...
Bet TSLA
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28 Nov 20:02
Bizarre. You claim you have some knowledge of the motivations and feelings of the S&P 500 committee members? In truth you have no idea why they did what they did. You are just inventing stuff here to fit your narrative. You are also claiming to know how Elon feels, which is nonsense. All you know ab...
Bet TSLA
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28 Nov 21:23
And I would suggest that you haven't bothered to understand what I've written. Now you're imagining I have "personal biases", presumably more significant than the personal biases we all have. Personally I'm biased towards truth, accuracy, consistency, and good spelling and grammar. I tend to be bias...
Knightshade
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28 Nov 14:53
Yes- in response to you repeating yourself.

It's like we have to debunk the same thing every month or two.

What did I bring up that's irrelevant?

I find the claim unlikely given literally everything I wrote was directly in reply to "things" that you brought up- even quoting your bringing them up ...
9837264723849
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28 Nov 6:37
We'd better stop talking about Tesla this way if we don't want governments to start breaking up Tesla as a monopoly (cf. Standard Oil Co. of New Jersey v. United States). I'm surprised Musk didn't think of the risk earlier.
Bet TSLA
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28 Nov 5:11
Yeah, kind of makes all the people saying "Who cares about the S&P? They need Tesla way more than Tesla needs them." look pretty dumb. It's quite clear that TSLA is better off (i.e. higher) now than before the S&P index committee admitted that Tesla exists.
Knightshade
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28 Nov 15:19
That's not really a mistake in anything- it's an example not tied to the brand.

If your premise is it won't be Ford selling those EVs- that doesn't change what I posted at all.

Who DOES produce them?

You need somebody that is not Tesla to produce over 20 million EVs in 2030 to get 50% of the enti...
amolina
2 | Link ➤

28 Nov 1:29
FSD Beta reaching Canada according to Twitter
https://twitter.com/FSDBetaCanada/status/1332050678047510531
 
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Weekly Roundup: 28 November
Posts from 21 Nov 13:24 GMT to 28 Nov 23:31 GMT
Votes as of 29 Nov 21:20 GMT

Top 100 Informative + Helpful

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Lycanthrope
57 | Link ➤

23 Nov 11:10
The reality of hybrids: https://twitter.com/transenv/status/1330769714277199872
ggr
48 | Link ➤

24 Nov 19:21
This question keeps coming up. So let's see if I can help to either clarify or further muddy the waters.

There are three kinds of funds in the world:
1. Index funds, which (in the context of this discussion) track the S&P 500 index as exactly as possible. These funds have no discretion about what a...
Mike Smith
47 | Link ➤

26 Nov 4:25
The new FSD Beta is out and it's a huge improvement.

-Pulls right up to stop lines
-Goes through yellow lights appropriately
-Excellent roundabouts
-Far fewer interventions
Curt Renz
39 | Link ➤

24 Nov 19:36
Craig Johnson is a managing director and technical strategist at Piper Sandler (formerly Piper Jaffray). He was a regular guest of mine on my old TV show, and still sends me his newsletters. In early 2013 he recommended TSLA, which led to my first purchase at $38 ($7.60 post-split).

Below is what C...
CorneliusXX
38 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:28
Carsonight has an update on Fremont cell volumes.

https://twitter.com/carsonight/status/1332418955386912768
JBRR
38 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:49
some clarification from Shirley Meng on Elon's 50 cent comment.

https://twitter.com/YingShirleyMen1/status/1331276061351452672?s=20
Lbkmxp100d
38 | Link ➤

23 Nov 3:20
Street high PT and 1,000 Bull case. Wow!
Curt Renz
37 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:17
My Brokerage's Newsfeed - this afternoon:

CFRA REITERATES STRONG BUY OPINION ON SHARES OF TESLA, INC. 1:43 pm ET November 24, 2020 (CFRA) Print We increase our 12-month price target by $100 to $650, implying a '22 P/E of 113x. Our adjusted EPS estimates remain $2.30 for '20, $3.50 for '21, and $5.7...
Todesbuckler
32 | Link ➤

28 Nov 10:00
New video from Giga Shanghai with first Model Y doing the test track:

Yason Yang:
"I have seen Tesla Model Y for testing in GF3 many times, which means that GF3 will soon be able to mass produce model Y, just waiting for the production license and sales license."
Artful Dodger
32 | Link ➤

28 Nov 2:53
Only if history repeats:

8 days in August:

8 days in November:

Hint: the August run was 15 days (not 8), and was fueled by just $5B in forced buying (not $50B).

TL;dr We're just about half way into this run. And the end is Dec 24, not Dec 21 (Index funds can buy +/- 3 days of the effective inclu...
JBRR
32 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:46
Source: EV-Volumes - The Electric Vehicle World Sales Database
JBRR
30 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:23
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Curt Renz
29 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:46
MT Newswires within my trading platform - premarket:

Analyst Actions: Northeast Securities Initiates Tesla with Add Rating, Street-High $700 Price Target
ZeApelido
29 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:12
Tesla is going to build a factory to make chargers in China

https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1331609215648010242?s=20
cyclingthealps
27 | Link ➤

26 Nov 7:55
Short interest increased (a little) in the period from 10/30/2020 (share price $388) to 11/13/2020 (share price $408)

Shares shorted from 47.800.000 to 47.900.000
Float shorted from 6,34% to 6,32% (which is a decrease, some kind of float increase should have happened in this time period, I will tra...
Artful Dodger
27 | Link ➤

24 Nov 20:38
Here is Call "Open Interest" x 100 (to represent # shares, not Contracts) through Christmas:

Nov 27: 20,195,400

Dec 04: 6,284,200

Dec 11: 5,280,100

Dec 18: 24,616,400

Dec 24: 4,352,300
Dec 31: 2,892,500
We can see quickly that there is only elevated levels of shares subject to being 'Called' o...
samppa
27 | Link ➤

23 Nov 11:56
I recently spoke with one used-car salesguy. He said that often they as trade-in they get a pluginhybrid, where battery is completely broken, because it has never been plugged in. Especially common if they are company cars. Hybrids are taxed less here.
heltok
27 | Link ➤

23 Nov 6:16
Anyone else getting tired of all analysts upgrading Tesla right after Tesla has had a bull run? It’s like they use a formula
new price target = current price + ∆analyst where ∆analyst is a fixed percentage. That these random publishing of this totally predictable number should somehow change the fut...
Curt Renz
26 | Link ➤

27 Nov 23:06
ARK has not trimmed any of its quite large TSLA holdings, since it did so on November 19, despite TSLA now on a string of 4 consecutive record highs.

EDIT to Add: TSLA is now 12.89% of ARKQ.
Christine600
26 | Link ➤

25 Nov 23:56
Morgan Stanley Downgrades Ford, Says EV Strategy Is 'Not Fully Clear'

Adam Jonas downgraded Ford's stock from Overweight to Equal-Weight with an unchanged $9 price target.

Management's unclear strategy makes it more difficult to model Ford's EV growth profile given the "state of flux" of its EV st...
generalenthu
26 | Link ➤

24 Nov 19:43
Volume is anemic and is not even sufficient for proper delta hedging to take place. I don't think any buying has started in earnest.

A 35 point move needs perhaps about 55 million traded shares to facilitate delta hedging and as of this writing we have traded only 42 million shares. Interesting tim...
amolina
25 | Link ➤

27 Nov 13:55
Found this really cool chart on Chinese EV market. Didn't expect such a share in terms of total Dollars volume.
As an investor, I ask myself, what would it look like once MIC Model Y comes online. Tesla's sales should atleast double in a period of 6-12 months minimum. How many other players can do t...
tinyrodent
25 | Link ➤

26 Nov 21:15
Original German: Verleihung des Axel Springer Awards: "An Evening for Elon Musk - Mission to Mars" live aus Berlin am 1. Dezember, Axel Springer SE, Pressemitteilung - lifePR

Google Translate:

Presentation of the Axel Springer Award: "An Evening for Elon Musk - Mission to Mars" live from Berlin on...
Artful Dodger
25 | Link ➤

25 Nov 7:32
NASDAQ sets the zero point for the day equal to the 08:00:00 AM share price, then percentages are calculated and displayed from that point for comparison(s) to other Indices (or other equities).

You'll find that this is the way HF tradering systems (like hedge funds) are setup as well. It's quite c...
Todesbuckler
25 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:51
Norway finally received a new car shipment. 112 Tesla registered yesterday compared to ~200 quarter-to-date.
All Model 3 were LR from the US. Presumably, new SR Model 3 for Norway will be shipped from Giga Shanghai as well.

Source:
Tesla Registration Stats
JBRR
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 17:09
https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1332362983780081675?s=20

VOLKSWAGEN WILL NOT PRODUCE A SMALL ELECTRIC CAR FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER THREE YEARS - FT
Paul_SF
24 | Link ➤

25 Nov 4:58
Construction and operation of Tesla's gigafactory in Shanghai maintains rapid progress - Xinhua | English.news.cn
amolina
24 | Link ➤

23 Nov 15:26
Quite crazy CALL made today morning. Very bullish OTM calls for December ends.
~6M call bets are rare, even so if they are very much OTM and short term like 1 month.
I am wondering about how big fund insider's be playing the insider info card about additions?

Secondly, I would like to start a specu...
FrankSG
23 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:25
Don't disagree with any of this, except for the fact that you use present tense. TSLA volume is way too low right now for any of this to be currently going on. If there are buyers, it's definitely not anybody big. I think the main reason for the rise from $410 to $550 has been some speculation, and ...
Blue horseshoe
23 | Link ➤

22 Nov 22:17
The entire portion of ten million shares is not just from the large block of institutional buying. It would also include a small portion of trades by momentum and algorithmic trades as they see a large buyer come in and they try to take advantage of that fact.

Not to get too deep into the weeds of...
AudubonB
22 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:23
No. That is not how it works for your proposed "Index Fund manager". Manager has to re-allocate all funds according to the S&P's percentile directives.

To keep it simple, let's imagine the Bakewell 4 Index, and posit that it includes Bakewell Enterprises at 40% of the index; MXWing Inc at 25%, Musk...
Cobbler
22 | Link ➤

25 Nov 12:47
Second price increase in a month period for the Belgium Model 3 SR+ ....
Was at 48800€ November, 25 days ago increase to 49490€ and now 50490€. Currency adjustment?
Baumisch
22 | Link ➤

24 Nov 12:12
Thank you for uploading - I put it on my Youtube:

UPDATE: Still being processed ... come on YT go go go !
wipster
22 | Link ➤

23 Nov 23:22
Market will be up big tomorrow, GSA just validated Presidential Transition process!

First on CNN: GSA tells Biden that transition can formally begin

First on CNN: GSA tells Biden that transition can formally begin - CNNPolitics
Mike Smith
21 | Link ➤

23 Nov 4:20
From Streetinsider:

Tesla (TSLA) PT Raised to $560 at Wedbush, Bull Case Raised to $1000

Wedbush analyst Daniel Ives raised the price target on Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) to $560.00 (from $500.00) while maintaining a Neutral rating. The analyst also raised his Bull Case to $1000 from $800 to reflect thi...
Curt Renz
20 | Link ➤

24 Nov 23:33
Despite TSLA's charge to record highs, ARK has not trimmed any of its TSLA shares since it last did so on Thursday.
Curt Renz
20 | Link ➤

24 Nov 1:15
No trimming of Tesla by ARK today despite the big up move.
RobStark
20 | Link ➤

23 Nov 8:38
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UkNorthampton
19 | Link ➤

24 Nov 12:08
Tesla: Elon Musk verkündet neues Modell speziell für Europa und Batteriefabrik - WELT

Elon could have asked me (even better, ask an Italian living in an ancient hilltop town). Just to note that Berlin has massive amount of space compared to many European cities & towns.

Elon The Disruptor: "I was ...
tcoombes
19 | Link ➤

23 Nov 22:03
I was a senior exec in publicly traded companies and participated in stock grants, options, and pay for performance. In my experience, when a company is growing insiders tend to accumulate and sell to cover taxation. When companies are struggling or when an exec is about to exit then larger sales of...
TheTalkingMule
19 | Link ➤

23 Nov 14:01
I know this is going to come to as a shocking surprise to a lot of you, but CNBC isn't mentioning TSLA in its "stocks making the biggest moves in pre-market". I mean, its up more than nearly every other company mentioned, but....
Knightshade
19 | Link ➤

23 Nov 3:05
VWs squeeze happened because Porsche announced "Oh hey we secretly bought up most of the company- and saxony owns almost all the rest... FYI the total float on the entire market is only like half of the current amount shorted...have fun!"

That's not even remotely remotely remotely like the situatio...
Words of HABIT
18 | Link ➤

26 Nov 12:55
Canadian pension fund giants call for green COVID-19 recovery

November 25th Yahoo! finance article by Jeff Lagerquist.

"The chief executive officers of eight Canadian pension funds, collectively representing about $1.6 trillion in assets under management, are calling for a green recovery from the ...
Buckminster
18 | Link ➤

24 Nov 20:15
17 mins in Elon states Semi will use structural battery pack. Sounds like this change only (rather than chemistry) is what has delayed the Semi and most likely Roadster as it has an architectural impact.
ABCTG
18 | Link ➤

22 Nov 18:12
https://twitter.com/heydave7/status/1330553052957347841
Right_Said_Fred
17 | Link ➤

28 Nov 18:51
Have we reached the top of this runup at 598 yesterday? I believe we have not, if you compare it to the other runups we had this year.

- All of those tops were a blow off top: 965 pre-split in January, 1796 pre-split in July, 498 post-split in August (if you count the 540 in premarket the next day)...
Artful Dodger
17 | Link ➤

25 Nov 1:07
After-action Report: Tue, Nov 24, 2020: (Full-Day's Trading)

Headline: "TSLA Melts Up w. Macro Tailwinds"

Traded: $29,389,396,345.43 ($29.39B)
Volume: 53,753,328
VWAP: $546.75

Close: $555.38 / VWAP: 101.68%
TSLA closed ABOVE today's Avg SP
TSLA MaxPain: $490

Mkt Cap: TSLA / TM $526.445B / $198.7...
JBRR
17 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:59
*JAPAN CONSIDERS ADDITIONAL SUBSIDIES FOR EV PURCHASES, NHK SAYS
Cobbler
17 | Link ➤

23 Nov 20:19
FUD debunked: NextMove lied. Tesla Germany specs updated:
Lycanthrope
16 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:51
As posted earlier (but I don't see it any more), looks like this assassination in Iran has spooked the macro and the MM's are just helping it down

Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, Iran's top nuclear scientist, assassinated near Tehran

Iran's most senior nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh has been assassinate...
Tes La Ferrari
16 | Link ➤

27 Nov 17:18
JB’s involvement is why I decided to pull the trigger and take a position in this a while back. Not advice.
Battery startup backed by VW and Tesla cofounder JB Straubel QuantumScape (QS) goes public - Electrek

Interesting quote from the article.

“QuantumScape even impressed Tesla cofounder and f...
Lycanthrope
16 | Link ➤

26 Nov 18:25
That was the $1 per contract Jan 2021 $650's that @Green Pete gave us the heads-up on last September, sold prematurely in February for $220... Big mistake, currently trading at $2,232 (accounting for split).

That's $2,231,000.00 gains from a single $1000 trade if I had held...

And the June 2022 $1...
Curt Renz
16 | Link ➤

25 Nov 23:10
Still no trimming of TSLA by ARK since last doing so 6 days ago, despite TSLA's current string of 3 record highs.
Curt Renz
16 | Link ➤

25 Nov 3:29
Reuters - this morning: Ford’s new CEO tackles warranty costs in bid to boost profit

What is barely mentioned is that the long established automakers must pay their franchised dealerships to make warranty repairs. I once had my car recalled to have an 80-cent part replaced in two minutes. I asked t...
Buckminster
16 | Link ➤

24 Nov 20:52
Worth watching this. Radar seems to be able to pickup not only kerbs etc. but even painted lines all on it's own! Amazing redundancy.
Tes La Ferrari
16 | Link ➤

23 Nov 23:45
Tesla looking to hire 7000 employees at Giga Berlin

Harvesters Are Back At The Tesla Giga Berlin For More Clearing
Curt Renz
16 | Link ➤

23 Nov 20:11
WSJ - 10 minutes ago: WSJ News Exclusive | Janet Yellen Is Biden’s Pick for Treasury Secretary

Excerpt:

President-elect Joe Biden plans to nominate former Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen, an economist at the forefront of policy-making for three decades, to become the next Treasury secretar...
Remster32
16 | Link ➤

23 Nov 7:01
Excerpt from the note (emphasis added):

Raising PT to $560, Bull Case now $1,000. While Model 3's remain the core driver, going forward new designs around Cybertruck and Model Y will further aid growth globally and thus enable to Tesla to achieve its million delivery units likely by 2023 (2022 not ...
tinyrodent
16 | Link ➤

22 Nov 16:16
I enjoyed watching this short (~1 min) video from Wuwa several times. It's a time lapse showing the impressively coordinated movement of new Model 3 vehicles around the Shanghai factory site.

On the west side, new bridge construction nears completion, and it appears Tesla has taken over a parking l...
Curt Renz
16 | Link ➤

21 Nov 19:20
Business Insider - this morning: All of Tesla's other services will be worth more than its car business, according to one Wall Street analyst who says the company should be compared to Apple, Tinder, and more.
The Martian
15 | Link ➤

28 Nov 1:34
Agreed. Among other points, the above point is even overlooked by a lot of Tesla bulls. In below tweet, Cobra Kai is referring to Dojo. I remember in other Dojo related Elon tweets, when someone asked if Dojo will be available to other people for NN training, Elon said Yes. That mean Tesla intend to...
UkNorthampton
15 | Link ➤

27 Nov 20:19
BP took over Polar chargers (UK) and now raised prices

New charges (tariffs in UK English) are all more expensive for 150kw.

BP - up to 47p/kwh
UK Tesla is 26p/kwh

Once people understand the advantages of Tesla Supercharging (availability, reliability, cost) - Tesla as a car becomes much more att...
Curt Renz
15 | Link ➤

27 Nov 17:22
It's Friday, a weekly options expiration day. A cursory survey makes it appear that the $590 strikes may be the most profitable target for big option writers (mainly hedge funds and market makers).

There is a cost to manipulation, but the prime consideration is that the options expire today, while ...
Sudre
15 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:08
WOW..... with 38,000 Calls with a strike of $600 sold, today I would say $600 is the line in the sand. I am guessing THEY have been buying up shares like candy all week to cover the $600 strikes but if we close above $600 I just can't see how THEY will be happy at all. The $600 strike was no where n...
MP3Mike
15 | Link ➤

26 Nov 2:30
A good video by Rob that goes over hw many shares need to be bought as the TSLA, and S&P500, price changes. (It doesn't work how most people think.)

Updated Look at Tesla’s S&P 500 Inclusion, FSD Beta 5, Supercharger Factory, & TSLA Stock - YouTube
Artful Dodger
15 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:00
There's a lot of front-running going on right now. S&P Committee could possibly announce THREE (3) equally weighted tranches effective Dec 7, 14, and 21.

With the common practice of Index fund buying +/- 5 trading days before an inclusion date, that allows those funds to begin buying anytime after...
Lbkmxp100d
15 | Link ➤

25 Nov 20:12
My neighbor who has the Cadillac self driving told me the same, that Cadillac self driving is ranked higher. I asked him for a drive. It nothing more than a lane keeping. I then gave him ride in my Tesla that has the beta FSD. It blew his mind. Not even in same league
Sudre
15 | Link ➤

25 Nov 0:10
This might actually work. I found a free GIF app to put together the last four IO charts.

Looks like Puts are more numerous than Calls at the $500 strike as of close yesterday. There are not many Puts selling above that tho which is odd? All we get is a few $520s? Definitely seems like a push down...
Cherry Wine
15 | Link ➤

24 Nov 18:36
$65M in sell orders at $550. Don’t know what it was at earlier.

EDIT: $40M.

EDIT 10:44 AM PT: Sell orders at $550 are getting whittled down. $37.5M...order book starting to get buy-side heavy. This can always change on the fly though.

EDIT 10:45 AM PT: Aaaaand it's gone.
Artful Dodger
15 | Link ➤

24 Nov 1:08
After-action Report: Mon, Nov 23, 2020: (Full-Day's Trading)

Headline: "TSLA Jumps the Gate setting 4 New ATHs"

Traded: $26,306,498,329.04 ($26.31B)
Volume: 50,288,248
VWAP: $523.11

Close: $521.85 / VWAP: 100.48%
TSLA closed ABOVE today's Avg SP
TSLA MaxPain: $470

Mkt Cap: TSLA / TM $494.662B / ...
hobbes
15 | Link ➤

23 Nov 17:48
Belgian University of Leuven group hacked it, got 5500 EUR from Tesla for revealing the problem:
https://www.imec-int.com/en/press/b...-imec-demonstrate-serious-flaws-tesla-model-x
Sicherheitslücke: Wenn der Tesla X innerhalb weniger Minuten geöffnet wird
UkNorthampton
14 | Link ➤

27 Nov 1:14
Shanghai made Model 3 arrives in Europe by boat.

Tesla ship arrives in Europe with China-made Model 3 exports

https://twitter.com/mortenlund89/status/1332038664084451333

Not sure how it compares to other car carriers in size/capacity

TOSCANA (IMO 9398333, Vehicles Carrier) - Ship Details and Cur...
Artful Dodger
14 | Link ➤

26 Nov 1:10
After-action Report: Wed, Nov 25, 2020: (Full-Day's Trading)

Headline: "TSLA Lays Down the Smak w. New ATH at the Close"

Traded: $27,517,641,308.72 ($27.52B)
Volume: 48,969,488
VWAP: $561.93

Close: $574.00 / VWAP: 102.20%
TSLA closed ABOVE today's Avg SP
TSLA MaxPain: $505

Mkt Cap: TSLA / TM $54...
Artful Dodger
14 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:18
Yeah, the exact opposite happened as Traders are staying at work (or WFH) during this pandemic. Volume built the SP over the day, ending with the simultaneous climax of an Intraday ATH at the ATH Close.

Did I mention the other 2 ATHs today? ATH Open and ATH Intraday Low. Indeed, today was the 4th ...
Sudre
14 | Link ➤

25 Nov 15:29
THEY is not one person or MM. THEY is probably a dozen groups with more money under management than Elon has in stock options. THEY have different ideas about what THEY want to happen. One of them is even possibly short. That means that a bone has to be thrown and things move in step or there may be...
Curt Renz
14 | Link ➤

24 Nov 17:34
Benzinga - 10 minutes ago: How The Biden Administration Could Benefit EV Players In The US

Excerpt:

Are Tax Incentives Ahead? Restoration of the EV tax credit for Tesla Inc is central to steepening the demand adoption curve for consumers in the U.S., Ives said.
FrankSG
14 | Link ➤

24 Nov 14:54
Check out NIO, XPEV, LI. All three are down significantly on huge volumes.

TSLA seems slightly affected by this as well, but not nearly as severely. Macros are also down a tad since open.

EDIT: Looks like there might be a further rotation away from growth/tech into stocks that benefit from vaccine...
JBRR
14 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:34
Musk: 500KM range semi truck fully loaded is trivial
Mo City
14 | Link ➤

23 Nov 16:27
Need $568 for Tesla to move past Berkshire to #6.
StealthP3D
14 | Link ➤

23 Nov 9:06
You can read the story here:
EV-wary dealers offered upward of $500,000 to drop Cadillac (technocodex.com)
Artful Dodger
13 | Link ➤

27 Nov 23:39
After-action Report: Fri, Nov 27, 2020: (Half-Day Session)

Headline: "TSLA Tickles 600 + Another ATH Close"

Traded: $22,130,498,625.35 ($22.13B)
Volume: 37,486,996
VWAP: $590.35

Close: $585.76 / VWAP: 99.21%
TSLA closed BELOW today's Avg SP
TSLA MaxPain: $520

Mkt Cap: TSLA / TM $555.242B / $195....
Lycanthrope
13 | Link ➤

27 Nov 8:41
So, with expected lower volumes (although not a given for this special pandemic-Thanksgiving), what will the manips target?

MP is indicated as $505, but this is not in line with the situation on the field where $542.50 +/- $2.49 would be the closing price of choice for the THEM.

They went for this...
Artful Dodger
13 | Link ➤

26 Nov 21:48
Here's the thing: the Aug 2020 Stock dividend + Cap raise showed us that $5B of forced buying over a 1 mth period drove the SP up ~90%

Now, we're looking out at a MINIMUM of $50B for forced buying over a 1 mth period. Sure it could be a bit more, and the S&P Committee might dick with the rules a ta...
Causalien
13 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:00
I can't turn off the analysis part of my brain.

That person's tweets reads like his need to be right out weight his need to make money.

Part of the reason why I've managed to side step disaster is that I am quick to admit to myself I am wrong. With no one to report to, I do not have to pamper my e...
Tes La Ferrari
13 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:13
California allows companies to charge for autonomous car rides

Just in time for the latest FSD beta release...
Artful Dodger
13 | Link ➤

23 Nov 7:16
Tesla trading at the equivalent of $498.52 in early trading in Berlin (TL0)
Artful Dodger
12 | Link ➤

26 Nov 7:35
Predictionn relative to the Closing SP before the announcement: $408.09

The runup after the 5:1 Share Dividend announcement after hrs on Aug 11 was either:

95% (based on Tue, Sep 1 PreMarket high), or
82.7% (based on Tue, Sep 1 Opening SP)
Note that the 'forced' buying due to the Share Dividend wa...
JBRR
12 | Link ➤

25 Nov 7:23
Join the Cell Team | Tesla

Cool footage here
Curt Renz
12 | Link ➤

24 Nov 18:28
Electrek - this morning: Tesla Semi electric truck to have up to 621 miles of range, says Elon Musk - Electrek
jkirkwood001
12 | Link ➤

23 Nov 15:03
NIO is now worth more than GM (and Ford and FCA, etc.)

I also added back the March 18 data point I'd lost - the low water mark for 2020. This highlights TSLA growing almost 10x in less than a year!
Curt Renz
11 | Link ➤

28 Nov 2:51
A YouTuber comes to the conclusion that many media outlets actually shun Tesla because it does not pay for advertising. Surprise! Surprise! He points to a glaring example in the Sunday London Times of November 15.

Sam Alexander - Nov 22:
Christine600
11 | Link ➤

27 Nov 19:01
Another interesting tweet from Gary Black affecting deadlines for a possible squeeze:

Important: Since TSLA inclusion is effective before market 12/14 and 12/21, indexers should have full positions in place by Friday 12/11 and 12/18 at end of trading.

https://twitter.com/garyblack00/status/1332379...
engle
11 | Link ➤

27 Nov 2:40
Russ' $TSLA "Base", "Bear", "Best", and "Elon's 20M units" Share Price Predictions for 12/31/2030

I think @Robocop makes an important point. $AAPL market cap is ~$2T today. If you assume that $TSLA continues to be the dominant force in a growing EV market profit-wise (like Apple over Android), with...
Mike Smith
11 | Link ➤

26 Nov 17:01
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Zero CO2
11 | Link ➤

25 Nov 19:47
Tesla teardown expert breaks down the new 4680 Battery Pack

may have been posted already but i am too far behind reading 100's page to look so here you go

pretty interesting Munro speculates on the 4680 battery pack design ... this will be another game changer
engle
11 | Link ➤

25 Nov 14:09
[edited: @Knightshade re: Index Funds buying window]

On 11/30 (I think we will see their press release after the market closes), S&P Indices will announce what percentage of $TSLA their clients, the wonderful "must buy at any price and hold" passive S&P 500 index funds shall have to buy close to bu...
JBRR
11 | Link ➤

25 Nov 13:14
Massive pile of economic data coming in 15 minutes
JBRR
11 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:35
Musk: 500wh/kg density is enough to get to the long ranges, 800km (fully loaded semi truck)
Mike Smith
11 | Link ➤

24 Nov 2:43
Elon on Twitter: "FSD Beta 5 coming out in a few days. Improvement should be significant."

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1331062680921235456
JRD1
11 | Link ➤

23 Nov 20:50
Every prospectus I have looked at has said between 3-7 days before and AFTER the date so that would mean between Dec 14 and 28 if they do it in one tranche. If in 2 tranches with one on Dec 14, the window would be roughly Dec 7 to Dec 28

Not all of them have set day ranges and almost all say they c...

Top 10 Authors - Informative + Helpful

AuthorTop 5 Posts
Artful Dodger
345
votes
64 posts
5.4 v/p
  1. Here's the thing: the Aug 2020 Stock dividend + Ca...
  2. Only if history repeats: 8 days in August: 8 day...
  3. If this happens, Tesla simply announces another 2:...
  4. Here is Call "Open Interest" x 100 (to represent #...
  5. HAMMER TIME! Cheers!
Curt Renz
343
votes
27 posts
12.7 v/p
  1. TSLA +6.5% All-time intraday and closing highs.
  2. Barron's - hour ago: Tesla Stock Rises Again, Crea...
  3. $DJI +0.1% COMP +0.9% SPX +0.2% NKLA -7.6% GM -0....
  4. TSLA +6.4% Again, all-time intraday and closing h...
  5. $DJI -0.6% COMP +0.6% SPX -0.2% NKLA -12.3% F -3....
JBRR
233
votes
22 posts
10.6 v/p
  1. "How do you end up the worlds 2nd richest man?" "S...
  2. some clarification from Shirley Meng on Elon's 50 ...
  3. {no text}
  4. Join the Cell Team | Tesla Cool footage here
  5. Herbert Diess: "The change will take place in ten ...
Lycanthrope
168
votes
48 posts
3.5 v/p
  1. The reality of hybrids: https://twitter.com/transe...
  2. R2, you say? I took delivery of mine this morning!...
  3. That was the $1 per contract Jan 2021 $650's that ...
  4. Probably, the $$ is very weak for the moment - hav...
  5. As said a few times, by others and I, they should ...
StealthP3D
149
votes
87 posts
1.7 v/p
  1. Exactly. We speak of a lot here of Tesla trying no...
  2. That's funny. Because S&P snubbed Tesla by not inc...
  3. I see the "worries" and "concerns" have started. ...
  4. Crazy, eh? I'm a little embarrassed about my ini...
  5. And here is the record of the analyst's calls they...
UkNorthampton
116
votes
36 posts
3.2 v/p
  1. Tesla: Elon Musk verkündet neues Modell speziell f...
  2. Shanghai made Model 3 arrives in Europe by boat. ...
  3. BP took over Polar chargers (UK) and now raised pr...
  4. Lovely. Thanks. The text is great too, this is j...
  5. I'll play dead until I need some money. After reti...
Mike Smith
93
votes
6 posts
15.5 v/p
  1. The new FSD Beta is out and it's a huge improvemen...
  2. We should start a support thread for those of us s...
  3. Elon on Twitter: "FSD Beta 5 coming out in a few d...
  4. From Streetinsider: Tesla (TSLA) PT Raised to $56...
  5. {no text}
amolina
91
votes
15 posts
6.1 v/p
  1. Found this really cool chart on Chinese EV market....
  2. This is what I was implying. Imagine having SP at ...
  3. Quite crazy CALL made today morning. Very bullish ...
  4. With all the talks about FSD value and impact on t...
  5. Did a test drive of Model X. But its just wayyyy t...
ggr
88
votes
16 posts
5.5 v/p
  1. This question keeps coming up. So let's see if I c...
  2. I guess I wasted my time writing this yesterday: T...
  3. Well, off topic for this thread, but since we're t...
  4. Their announcement was that it would be fully incl...
  5. I think he's wrong on one aspect. He points out th...
Buckminster
61
votes
8 posts
7.6 v/p
  1. 17 mins in Elon states Semi will use structural ba...
  2. Worth watching this. Radar seems to be able to pic...
  3. TSLA is not going up today because Americans are e...
  4. $3m on $700 strike Jan21s...
  5. Tesla's ability to source and integrate alternativ...

Top 100 Loved + Liked

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sbradbury
103 | Link ➤

23 Nov 20:51
So I don't post much, but TSLA is my first 10 bagger as of today. Investor since 2013
ClownMouth
94 | Link ➤

25 Nov 1:54
Men & Women, Kings & Queens - I know the stock is minting new Teslanaires every hour lately but allow me to humor you with a tale of a much smaller sum.

Through boneheaded oversight - I was saving in multiple other accounts - I only opened a Roth in November 2018. Every couple years I take a TD re...
Todd Burch
92 | Link ➤

28 Nov 11:57
Referring to this Twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/truth_tesla/status/1332613785572532224?s=21

It’s been funny to watch Gary Black’s tweets the last few weeks.

When S&P inclusion announcement came, he was pumping TSLA and calling an expected top around $550.

This seemed quite low to me, and it...
Cattledog
88 | Link ➤

27 Nov 0:48
Way back in early 2013, after we had been driving our 2012 Model S for a month or two, I was gushing about the car on this forum, 'best car I've ever owned, etc.'. Someone remarked, 'You realize you own the WORST version of the Model S Tesla is ever going to make.' Bingo, pushed more chips into the ...
SunCatcher
81 | Link ➤

26 Nov 1:24
New York Post; "Elon Musk passes Bill Gates on rich list, but still lags in philanthropy"
I won't add the link, but will say this; what greater charity can he contribute to than to "Accelerate the World's Transition to Sustainable Energy", and save lives from the deadly effects of pollution from th...
Lbkmxp100d
80 | Link ➤

25 Nov 20:12
My neighbor who has the Cadillac self driving told me the same, that Cadillac self driving is ranked higher. I asked him for a drive. It nothing more than a lane keeping. I then gave him ride in my Tesla that has the beta FSD. It blew his mind. Not even in same league
Curt Renz
71 | Link ➤

23 Nov 21:00
TSLA +6.5%

All-time intraday and closing highs.
st_lopes
67 | Link ➤

22 Nov 23:18
Took possession of my Model Y this week. I thought I was a high conviction long until this point. I’m now a you’ll be prying these shares from my cold, dead hands conviction long.

Some abrasions to paint on driver side handle (likely service team member with rings), rear brake lights TINY misalign...
Curt Renz
65 | Link ➤

25 Nov 19:59
Barron's - hour ago: Tesla Stock Rises Again, Creating Another Problem for Index Funds

Excerpt:

That means Tesla will likely go into the S&P 500 as the index's fifth or sixth largest company. And the more valuable it gets, the more shares index funds have to buy. And the more stock index funds hav...
clmason
65 | Link ➤

24 Nov 23:25
I was not expecting 1100% gains back in 2011.

Sharing this for education purposes:

Sorry, I don't have anyone else to celebrate with besides you all. Congrats Team!!!
Sancho
65 | Link ➤

24 Nov 11:04
I spoke to a lot of investment professionals over the years, and about 95% held a negative view of TSLA as an investment. Stunningly, that view persisted into the beginning of this year, despite everything that Tesla was achieving in plain sight.

Any professional who got TSLA wrong really should b...
Curt Renz
62 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:00
$DJI +0.1%
COMP +0.9%
SPX +0.2%

NKLA -7.6%
GM -0.9%
F +0.1%
FCAU +0.3%

TSLA +2.0%

A fourth consecutive session of TSLA all-time intraday and closing highs
JoNoSaisQuoi
61 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:57
I might be quite, but I am an old timer, I began building my position in March 2013. I have never sold a share. Nope it’s not a smirk for me. Nothing but gratitude because whenever I have doubted myself I check in here. It is comforting to see many familiar old posters. So many have left. Did they s...
Curt Renz
60 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:00
TSLA +6.4%

Again, all-time intraday and closing highs.
Curt Renz
55 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:00
$DJI -0.6%
COMP +0.6%
SPX -0.2%

NKLA -12.3%
F -3.9%
GM -2.2%
FCAU +0.7%

TSLA +3.4%

Another day of TSLA all-time intraday and closing highs
Prunesquallor
55 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:00
I would be on the outside looking in if not for :
1) My wife asking about Tesla cars back in Nov 2018
2) Me researching the car
3) Me buying M3 Dec 2018
4) Me finding this thread April 2019
5) Me investing starting in May 2019
6) Me very happy Nov 2020
Ameliorate
53 | Link ➤

27 Nov 3:54
Happy thanksgiving to my neighbors!

All time high's are pretty nice, might be at a bit of an ATH myself.
Feeling like my truck order will be a few years yet so this inventory model X happened. O.O
Probably retire my parents dangerous old vehicle and split the usage of the X and my current truck ...
Rammstein
53 | Link ➤

23 Nov 21:07
What a year this has been. I cracked my skull from a scooter accident 2 months ago. Got covid a month ago so had to reschedule my follow up appointment with the skull surgeon. Just had the follow up and everything is fine and covid was just a stuffy nose for me. In the meantime I became pretty rich ...
SOULPEDL
50 | Link ➤

27 Nov 20:40
Done - Model Y w/ FSD, White Seats, Metallic Blue.
Cyber still on order. Get em while you can, I'm serious.
4chi
49 | Link ➤

25 Nov 18:37
Happy US Thanksgiving to all the posters in here. Appreciate all the knowledge passed along in this thread. I read it daily but have never posted. So Thanks.

I'm just HODL in several accts. Eyeing a $721 SP to make us Teslanaires.
NakedLong
48 | Link ➤

27 Nov 23:29
I always considered myself a super bull on Tesla, but the stock has gone up considerably faster than myself and pretty much everyone else imagined. I have several thoughts around this topic, but my general idea is that we have a massive conservative bias with our Tesla predictions.

Take a look back...
avoigt
46 | Link ➤

23 Nov 11:56
My pleasure and thanks for your kind words!

Herbert Diess, CEO VW in Nov 2020

“ ... you have to take a person who changes the industry in such a way very seriously. And he doesn't only do it in the car. His commitment in space is also remarkable and therefore worthwhile to deal with him.” (…) “He ...
cliffski
44 | Link ➤

28 Nov 13:52
Just had a sudden realization about robototaxis.

As someone who doesn't really need the extra income, and lives somewhere rural (not exactly an uber service in all these fields) I had always assumed that robotaxi would be useless for me, and people like me, who live in super-low density locations/....
PeterJA
44 | Link ➤

22 Nov 17:42
A share price of $1k will give Tesla a market cap of 1 trillion dollars, not 2. Is that decoupled from reality "by the end of this year"? The market is forward looking. What will they see by the end of this year?

1) Three new factories each producing 1-2 million vehicles within a few years, if they...
JaredM3
42 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:48
Thank you for confirming which I was already 99% decided was to hold them and just add to it. I hope to be able to put another 50-100k by the end of January.

I love the atmosphere in here and how everyone just wants to help everyone, and share their knowledge and experiences regardless of their pos...
Krugerrand
42 | Link ➤

24 Nov 14:04
And the point everyone who thinks government to the rescue in Germany is that Tesla is about to become ‘German’.

I continue to be amazed that there are still people ‘here’ stuck in a box of conventional thinking. As if the innovation and disruption and extraordinary accomplishments of Tesla only a...
2daMoon
41 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:02
After lurking here for months I wanted to celebrate my first TSLA purchase going from Short to Long and went ahead and signed up.

Y'all are a ton of fun and have become one of my daily go-to resources. Along with Teslarati, SMR (love you all), Tesla Daily, and of course Nasdaq and Fidelity sites.
...
Paul_SF
41 | Link ➤

23 Nov 10:21
{no text}
StealthP3D
40 | Link ➤

28 Nov 7:42
That's funny. Because S&P snubbed Tesla by not including them when they were clearly eligible, then they realized they were in a pickle that was getting worse with each passing profitable quarter. Better late than never, but they basically proved they needed Tesla more than Tesla needed them. Elon h...
StealthP3D
40 | Link ➤

28 Nov 4:05
Exactly. We speak of a lot here of Tesla trying not to "Osborne" sales of one product with another, newer, better product. But the real Osborne effect is that EV's Osborne traditional ICE autos as people gradually figure out how superior an EV is to ICE. That is why legacy auto is dragging their fee...
cyclingthealps
40 | Link ➤

25 Nov 8:41
I am still here, not posting much but grateful for all the valuable content provided here. Once more, thank you all.
My current status is that my portfolio is nearing €100.000 which is unbelievable because at the beginning of 2018 my portfolio was €6000-€10000.
Right_Said_Fred
39 | Link ➤

28 Nov 18:51
Have we reached the top of this runup at 598 yesterday? I believe we have not, if you compare it to the other runups we had this year.

- All of those tops were a blow off top: 965 pre-split in January, 1796 pre-split in July, 498 post-split in August (if you count the 540 in premarket the next day)...
Johann Koeber
39 | Link ➤

28 Nov 16:09
Business here in Germany is going really well, it seems.

2 weeks ago I ordered another M3 (and last week an MS Plaid). The order page said Feb2021 delivery. Yesterday I got a call that I could take delivery this year if I wish.

So my new M3 has a tentative delivery date of Dec. 24, which is remark...
FrankSG
39 | Link ➤

26 Nov 7:42
I won't make an exact prediction, which is impossible anyway, but the model I've created will give people a lot more data to base their own predictions on. The main use of the model is to give people a better feel for how much selling pressure there will be at various stock price levels.

Going to g...
Khamul
39 | Link ➤

23 Nov 11:44
From the bottom of my heart: those bastards. I have no words that can accurately describe my feelings for them.

They have cheated over and over again, knowing full well that it is of imperatively importance that we get all cars converted to electric, and yet they do this over and over again.

When ...
Unpilot
38 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:58
Hope you all have a good weekend.
Go outside walk in nature..hug your loved ones.
Be thankful for all you have.

Then put the helmet and seat belts on because next week is going to be a wild fun ride!
Mike Smith
38 | Link ➤

24 Nov 2:43
Elon on Twitter: "FSD Beta 5 coming out in a few days. Improvement should be significant."

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1331062680921235456
Words of HABIT
37 | Link ➤

27 Nov 0:16
Dave Lee's Investment Podcost 198. What's next for Tesla.
Dave was a big reason why I invested in Tesla January 2013 after reading his posts on TMC since October 2012. And a big part of why I am still invested in Tesla today.
Thanks Dave. Thanks TMC. Thanks Tesla.
Pezpunk
37 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:42
buy-and-hold has got me within spitting distance of 8 figures. why engage in complicated, risky behavior when a simple, safe strategy is making me rich already? not advice or criticism. just my own personal philosophy.

edit: i suppose i should acknowledge that "safe" is a relative term. anywhere ot...
LN1_Casey
36 | Link ➤

22 Nov 5:43
Doing my part to help Q4. And help further with my Model S which should be delivered maybe in two weeks.

I already have a hotwheels Model S, and I'll get the model Model S on Friday-ish, and then my real Model S the week following. Slowing increasing in size!
CLK350
35 | Link ➤

21 Nov 18:32
From Elon directly from his Tweet,Tesla is not just cars

Elon Musk
Tesla is a vehicle for creating & producing many useful products
12:47 PM · Nov 21, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Open Interest
34 | Link ➤

26 Nov 19:20
I’d like to give thanks to this wonderful Tesla community I feel privileged to be part of.

I can’t thank you enough for the education, the encouragement, discussions and laughs along the way. What a journey it has been, especially this year.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
TheTalkingMule
34 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:33
I'd just like to reiterate what a horrendous idea this was to give 36 days notice rather than the traditional 7.

We learn many lessons in trading and the value of simply remaining long from posters here, but let us not forget the lessons from the other side of the counter. Everything these idiots d...
Krugerrand
34 | Link ➤

22 Nov 20:34
Interestingly enough, heard the exact same thing this past year when Tesla soared to just under $1,000. Lots of people patting themselves on the back when TSLA retraced (but conveniently don’t bother to mention a lot of that was pandemic related not valuation related), then got back on the TSLA too ...
StealthP3D
34 | Link ➤

21 Nov 17:09
Crazy, eh?

I'm a little embarrassed about my initial TMC reaction to it as it was unveiled. I was pretty sure Musk was being a prankster and playing a mean trick on us. How could he jerk our emotions around like this? Shattering our dreams in an instant. Certainly, the "real" Cybertruck would be r...
StealthP3D
33 | Link ➤

28 Nov 14:28
I see the "worries" and "concerns" have started.

1) There is no such thing as a concerning "too high a rise in SP". If the shares go too high, they will come back down. Problem solved. Those of us who are long-term holders have seen that happen in the past and are certain to see it happen in the fu...
Johan
32 | Link ➤

27 Nov 13:59
I was going to post that the last few months reminds of the time period in 2013 where we had multi-dag huge gap-ups and those enormous upticks after ERs, in which I made a small fortune trading options which almost paid for my Model S. So I looked up a quick stock price chart overview for all of TSL...
Paul_SF
31 | Link ➤

26 Nov 16:47
Happy Thanksgiving!

By next Thanksgiving, Tera Austin and Tera Berlin will be up and running.

Enjoy the ride!
Artful Dodger
31 | Link ➤

25 Nov 23:35
If this happens, Tesla simply announces another 2:1 Stock Dividend on Christmas Eve, and the Shortzes have 2 weeks to buy ANOTHER $50B of TSLA to replace the phantom shares they poofed into existance (remember, large Index Funds are Shareholders of Record, and are known to Tesla, unlike the 'Benefic...
PeterJA
30 | Link ➤

26 Nov 23:46
Anyone thinking of selling their TSLA shares at $600 or $800 or $1000 should watch this video. The nuclear bomb that will destroy the auto industry as we know it is coming much sooner than most people expect, and your company is gonna unleash it.
Robocop
30 | Link ➤

25 Nov 20:10
I don't bring up Tesla to general public. Too many dumb reactions. I just quietly think "You'll be driving one in 2025." Or rather, it will be driving them.
rdalcanto
30 | Link ➤

25 Nov 18:51
Fidelity won't give up. After failing to get me to talk to one of their advisors about my Portfolio (which is 100% TSLA), they called my wife about diversifying and getting help to manage it (as if any of their advisor's returns can get to even 1/10th of mine). She told them we aren't interested.......
Todd Burch
29 | Link ➤

27 Nov 19:54
No offense to anyone holding FB, but I can’t understand how it’s STILL worth more than Tesla. It’s basically a webpage with a thumbs-up button and the most complicated logic is that if I know Joey, and Jesus knows Joey, then I know Jesus.

Meanwhile, Tesla is transforming the world and teaching cars...
Artful Dodger
29 | Link ➤

26 Nov 21:48
Here's the thing: the Aug 2020 Stock dividend + Cap raise showed us that $5B of forced buying over a 1 mth period drove the SP up ~90%

Now, we're looking out at a MINIMUM of $50B for forced buying over a 1 mth period. Sure it could be a bit more, and the S&P Committee might dick with the rules a ta...
H Mak
29 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:39
On 31st August TSLA closed at 498 so it's a 15% rise from then till today. In the three months since then we've had:

Battery Day
Q3 deliveries
Q3 earnings
S&P announcement

The last few days have felt a bit mad, but when you put a 15% rise in the context of those events, it's actually all rather se...
JBRR
29 | Link ➤

25 Nov 7:23
Join the Cell Team | Tesla

Cool footage here
computerchuck
29 | Link ➤

24 Nov 13:25
Cheers to the longs
feigen66
28 | Link ➤

26 Nov 16:36
Happy Thanksgiving. I am very grateful for all the long term investors, disagreeing or agreeing with me, investing the future of humanity.

People told me the P/E of TSLA is unrealistic. I asked, "What's the P/E to have your children and grandchildren a place to live on Earth?"
Sancho
27 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:04
Let’s use the holiday weekend to rest and restore. The month ahead should be wild.

Happy holidays to you and your families.
mickificki
27 | Link ➤

25 Nov 17:36
OT: I'll never forget this experience I had in Vegas. Was with the wife and kid walking down the strip and came across a homeless man who was asking for $20 or more. I scoffed at him thinking to myself what person would ask for THAT much to start off with.

He looked at me and said, "You know, this ...
Chunky Jr.
27 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:34
I thought about dabbling in options, but after reading about them for a while, I decided it might be more productive to just set that money on fire so at least it could have some value keeping me warm. I admire those of you who know how to play that game - it looks way too complicated for my feeble ...
kenmccann
27 | Link ➤

23 Nov 14:51
I just come here to hang out with a bunch of happy people!
JBRR
26 | Link ➤

28 Nov 10:27
Herbert Diess: "The change will take place in ten years - with or without Volkswagen"

„In rund zehn Jahren werden wir autonom fahren können“

Google Translate

How we transform Volkswagen
Prunesquallor
26 | Link ➤

27 Nov 22:43
Tesla Storms the S&P 500. Here’s the Bull Case.
-Barron's

OK, all you meme-makers. Have at it!
Krugerrand
26 | Link ➤

22 Nov 14:34
@StealthP3D has talked at length about why *we* don’t do this - main point being, you will kick yourself if it doesn’t come back down and just keeps rising, and/or you don’t time the buy back correctly like the dozens and dozens of people in this thread who’ve missed the buy back.

If you need the m...
samppa
25 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:37
It's been a great week! Looking forward to next 3 weeks
Time to celebrate a bit
Paul_SF
25 | Link ➤

25 Nov 0:28
with all the respect, if I was you I would just buy the Y now, the defects you claim are keeping you from getting it are completely irrelevant.

get the Y and go on a road trip!
ZeApelido
25 | Link ➤

24 Nov 17:24
Today TSLA reached within $0.01 / share of me reaching a double 'naire. WTF can't believe this actually happened in 2020.
Navin
24 | Link ➤

28 Nov 17:44
The $20 million of Tesla stock Elon Musk purchased as part of his SEC settlement is now worth $167m
JaredM3
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 20:41
Hi Everyone,

I just want to start off by saying I’m a complete noob when it comes to anything stocks. I’ve always been leary about it as I know a few people who have lost quite a bit. I turned to real estate instead.

While I’m not by any means wealthy, I live comfortably within my means. I remembe...
StealthP3D
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:52
Yep. I always use a logarithmic chart for longer time periods:

In this logarithmic chart, those early days 2011-2012 look just almost as good as recent performance except for one thing. I was fully aware of Tesla since before it went public and had plenty of investment capital when they did. But I ...
hobbes
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 16:01
I found the reason TSLA´s up again today:

Unbelievable. Just wow.
engle
24 | Link ➤

27 Nov 2:40
Russ' $TSLA "Base", "Bear", "Best", and "Elon's 20M units" Share Price Predictions for 12/31/2030

I think @Robocop makes an important point. $AAPL market cap is ~$2T today. If you assume that $TSLA continues to be the dominant force in a growing EV market profit-wise (like Apple over Android), with...
Cherry Wine
24 | Link ➤

24 Nov 17:36
Yeah dude. I was facing a margin call and had a brokerage balance of $13,000 in June of...could it really be, last year? To now holding over a million dollars. Boggles. The. Mind.
dgodfrey
24 | Link ➤

23 Nov 0:59
Not to mention putting more emphasis on paint swirls over safest car in the world. Pretty much destroys any credibility as consumer watchdog.
Paul_SF
24 | Link ➤

22 Nov 6:54
{no text}
Tim S
23 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:43
My advice... buy a Model Y now (especially if you are currently driving an ICE). It will be a while before you can test drive a Cybertruck. The Y will hold its value better than just about any car. It will be the best car you've ever owned. You will save a ton on gas. You can always trade it in for ...
wipster
23 | Link ➤

23 Nov 23:22
Market will be up big tomorrow, GSA just validated Presidential Transition process!

First on CNN: GSA tells Biden that transition can formally begin

First on CNN: GSA tells Biden that transition can formally begin - CNNPolitics
Prunesquallor
23 | Link ➤

23 Nov 12:58
What a waste of batteries.
heltok
22 | Link ➤

27 Nov 1:39
The progress from first FSD beta to current FSD beta has been incredible. Sure it has mainly been bug fixes, but it seems that the neural network is also improving. If this keeps going then we will very rapidly approach 99.9999%. At some point bugfixes will slow and it will be more a grind of uncomm...
Artful Dodger
22 | Link ➤

26 Nov 22:10
I explained the details back in Aug and Sep, live as events unfolded. Maybe subscribe?

You don't seem to have really grok'd the purpose and utility of the Share Dividend: if/when Tesla determines that excessive naked short selling has occurred, to the point where it is artificially suppressing TSL...
Lycanthrope
22 | Link ➤

25 Nov 13:43
Probably, the $$ is very weak for the moment - have been watching it as I needed to convert some of my portfolio cash to € for this bloody house*. Was hoping it would strengthen with the stabilising political situation in the US, but doesn't appear to have impacted at all.

*don't like to talk about...
StealthP3D
22 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:08
There would be no point in doing that unless they just want to speculate like (presumably) they can do at any time. Different funds within a firm are comprised of different owners or holders of the fund. Every transaction needs to happen at current market rates. There are exceptions but that doesn't...
Artful Dodger
22 | Link ➤

23 Nov 20:21
The problem with that timing is that Tesla has a sequence of squibs lined up for Q1/Q2 2021 to rival Project Orion:

Giga Shanghai commences Model Y production (instant doubling MiC output, but at lower cost than Model Y from Fremont)
Telsa could easily retire all it's long term debt in Q1 with a Ca...
StealthP3D
22 | Link ➤

23 Nov 18:00
Which means Tesla data initiatives just keep pushing margins higher relative to other manufacturers who have to pay others for the data they need to provide to offer competitive products. Tesla can use the higher margins to increase profits, re-invest in further expansion or cut selling prices. It's...
StealthP3D
22 | Link ➤

22 Nov 19:00
I hear what you are saying but I don't really think anyone can say what Tesla is worth at any given time. Look, TSLA is worth whatever someone is willing to pay you for it at any given moment. That doesn't mean someone with a perfect and complete understanding of everything going on behind Tesla's d...
juanmedina
22 | Link ➤

21 Nov 16:04
Wow that was an amazing post. I miss that one too. I really miss those two.
Artful Dodger
21 | Link ➤

28 Nov 4:18
FTFY. Now, wanna bet it hits 695 next week? And it's still a long way to Dec 24th.

TL;dr HODL
corduroy
21 | Link ➤

27 Nov 15:25
The more I learn hanging around here, the more it all comes down to 1 rule:
amolina
21 | Link ➤

26 Nov 23:12
This is what I was implying. Imagine having SP at ATH, but with naked shorts and then Tesla countering it with a stock split.
I hope that you are right about MM's/hedgies not being foolish.

Here is a great FSD video with the latest release 2020.44.15.3. This one should hopefully lead us to US wid...
Intl Professor
21 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:40
I've had a string of them for 17 years after our wedding.
Artful Dodger
21 | Link ➤

24 Nov 18:52
HAMMER TIME!

Cheers!
EVMeister
20 | Link ➤

28 Nov 8:30
Indeed they do. You can press the "Support TMC" button in the footer to find out more. You get a neat ltitle badge under your name to show for it. I have one, too. I didn't do it for the badge, I did it because I use this site daily and it provides unique insights and information. I first gave suppo...
Todd Burch
20 | Link ➤

27 Nov 14:47
Getting ready to pop open my “she at $3k equivalent and this ain’t even close to done” champagne for breakfast.
Brian121
20 | Link ➤

27 Nov 15:10
Alcohol is not suitable for me. so instead ... ...
S3XY
20 | Link ➤

26 Nov 17:27
With the loss of Jack Rickard this year I'm thankful that we still have Sandy Munroe to inform us mere laymen. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
UnknownSoldier
20 | Link ➤

26 Nov 9:50
Saw this on WSB and reposting it here:
Thanks PLTR and NIO, donating $500 to my local food bank for all the Covid unemployment. : wallstreetbets

Today, we should all be thankful for what we have because there are many this year who have nothing. If you share this sentiment, you can also find your l...
JBRR
20 | Link ➤

26 Nov 10:56
Massive improvements in new FSD build
Unpilot
20 | Link ➤

25 Nov 17:39
The thing about these stories...we don't see much of the other side. You know the dude who turned 1 million into 0...or maybe negative numbers.

That happens too.
TheTalkingMule
20 | Link ➤

25 Nov 4:12
Past behavior is a good indication of future behavior.....I assume they'll go with the two tranche option and it will implode the universe.

Imagine Dec 14th or so when the first buying window drives SP from $630 to $850 and then it just sits there. Obviously it would be stupid to sell.....there's a...

Top 10 Authors - Loved + Liked

AuthorTop 5 Posts
StealthP3D
582
votes
87 posts
6.7 v/p
  1. Exactly. We speak of a lot here of Tesla trying no...
  2. That's funny. Because S&P snubbed Tesla by not inc...
  3. I see the "worries" and "concerns" have started. ...
  4. Crazy, eh? I'm a little embarrassed about my ini...
  5. And here is the record of the analyst's calls they...
Curt Renz
444
votes
27 posts
16.4 v/p
  1. TSLA +6.5% All-time intraday and closing highs.
  2. Barron's - hour ago: Tesla Stock Rises Again, Crea...
  3. $DJI +0.1% COMP +0.9% SPX +0.2% NKLA -7.6% GM -0....
  4. TSLA +6.4% Again, all-time intraday and closing h...
  5. $DJI -0.6% COMP +0.6% SPX -0.2% NKLA -12.3% F -3....
Artful Dodger
369
votes
64 posts
5.8 v/p
  1. Here's the thing: the Aug 2020 Stock dividend + Ca...
  2. Only if history repeats: 8 days in August: 8 day...
  3. If this happens, Tesla simply announces another 2:...
  4. Here is Call "Open Interest" x 100 (to represent #...
  5. HAMMER TIME! Cheers!
Krugerrand
217
votes
31 posts
7 v/p
  1. And the point everyone who thinks government to th...
  2. Interestingly enough, heard the exact same thing t...
  3. Hush. I’m concentrating on doing nothing.
  4. @StealthP3D has talked at length about why *we* do...
  5. 1. Tesla parts inventory doesn’t need to be as lar...
TheTalkingMule
194
votes
47 posts
4.1 v/p
  1. I don't want to shock or upset any of you, but CNB...
  2. Sharp TSLA coverage from CNBC Power Lunch just now...
  3. I'd just like to reiterate what a horrendous idea ...
  4. I know this is going to come to as a shocking surp...
  5. Hadn't planned on drinking today.
Prunesquallor
192
votes
22 posts
8.7 v/p
  1. I would be on the outside looking in if not for : ...
  2. Tesla Storms the S&P 500. Here’s the Bull Case. -B...
  3. “Our convictions are aligned with whoever is in ch...
  4. What a waste of batteries.
  5. {no text}
Paul_SF
189
votes
28 posts
6.8 v/p
  1. {no text}
  2. Happy Thanksgiving! By next Thanksgiving, Tera A...
  3. with all the respect, if I was you I would just bu...
  4. Construction and operation of Tesla's gigafactory ...
  5. {no text}
Lycanthrope
167
votes
48 posts
3.5 v/p
  1. The reality of hybrids: https://twitter.com/transe...
  2. R2, you say? I took delivery of mine this morning!...
  3. That was the $1 per contract Jan 2021 $650's that ...
  4. Probably, the $$ is very weak for the moment - hav...
  5. As said a few times, by others and I, they should ...
JBRR
157
votes
22 posts
7.1 v/p
  1. "How do you end up the worlds 2nd richest man?" "S...
  2. some clarification from Shirley Meng on Elon's 50 ...
  3. {no text}
  4. Join the Cell Team | Tesla Cool footage here
  5. Herbert Diess: "The change will take place in ten ...
Todd Burch
152
votes
7 posts
21.7 v/p
  1. Referring to this Twitter thread: https://twitter....
  2. No offense to anyone holding FB, but I can’t under...
  3. Oh my God. TSLA is down 0.12%.
  4. Getting ready to pop open my “she at $3k equivalen...
  5. To be fair, you can’t stand for reduced greenhouse...

Top 25 Funny

Author /
Votes /
Time (GMT)
Content Preview
feigen66
62 | Link ➤

22 Nov 5:04
{no text}
Nocturnal
60 | Link ➤

28 Nov 15:11
Before I became a Tesla investor I actually enjoyed weekends.
ZeApelido
50 | Link ➤

24 Nov 23:37
I have calculated that if the current trend continues for the next 173 trading days, I will become the wealthiest person in the world.
AimStellar
47 | Link ➤

24 Nov 11:58
I downloaded and am fine ... except all my TSLA shares were liquidated and I now have a portfolio full of Nikola and Halliburton??
MC3OZ
45 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:56
Converting to official units :-,TSLA is now up over 2.5 Gordons in the past week.
TheTalkingMule
45 | Link ➤

24 Nov 13:54
I don't want to shock or upset any of you, but CNBC hasn't mentioned TSLA in it's "stocks making the biggest moves in pre-market" today. Unclear why. Perhaps it's just a clerical error?
JBRR
44 | Link ➤

24 Nov 8:23
"How do you end up the worlds 2nd richest man?" "Start as the richest man in the world and bet on Blue Origin"

"how do you end up as the world 3rd richest man?" "Start as the richest and bet on hydrogen and porche taycan"
TheTalkingMule
44 | Link ➤

23 Nov 20:03
Sharp TSLA coverage from CNBC Power Lunch just now.

"Wow, that's high!"
"Yeah it is."

Really useful insights for your investor audience.
JusRelax
42 | Link ➤

23 Nov 22:11
"Breaking news: Tesla founder Elon Musk shocked at how high current Tesla valuation is" - Lora Kolodny
kanweg
41 | Link ➤

25 Nov 19:23
Don’t feel bad, it could be worse. I’m the only person Curt Renz never had on his show (at least, that is the impression I get from his posts that start with who he had on his show.)
PeterJA
39 | Link ➤

22 Nov 23:51
Consumer Reports should add a few more questions to their owner survey:

1) Is your car a chick magnet?

2) Do chicks measure your panel gaps when you pick them up?

3) Has any chick, ever, in your lifetime with chicks, given half a shite about your panel gaps?
MXWing
36 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:18
Cashed out some TSLA profit so buy my Bolt today!

(said no one ever)
wtlloyd
35 | Link ➤

23 Nov 14:49
I hate these mornings. What's the point in leaving for work when I've just made a month's income in less than an hour?
woodisgood
34 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:17
Did I read that correctly? You were short TSLA?

Someone get Neuralink on the phone...this is a neuroscience breakthrough. We can grow brain!
Tes La Ferrari

32 | Link ➤

26 Nov 16:51
A little sad to see her go.

Enjoy the Y!
Mike Smith
32 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:35
We should start a support thread for those of us suffering through feelings of guilt about 2020 being the best year of their life..
Johan
32 | Link ➤

25 Nov 8:34
So basically you're saying you buy when the price is lower, then sell as the price has gone up, then buy back when the price is lower again? Rinse, repeat, and voila you make more money than just buying and holding? Interesting concept, now if you could just give me a heads up every time the price i...
BlackS
32 | Link ➤

24 Nov 20:54
Being in tech myself, one silver lining to the pandemic has been to demonstrate beyond doubt that people CAN work from home effectively and efficiently --- except for TMC members on days like today
oldTAVguy
31 | Link ➤

25 Nov 13:43
CNBS lead TSLA video this AM has David Trainer saying that TSLA is only worth $50 per share.

Shows that CNBS is the greatest source ever for financial analysis. /s

FYI:
David Trainer
Seeking Alpha
Financial Blogger
Ranked #6,245 out of 7,739 Bloggers on TipRanks (#12,084 out of 14,851 overall expe...
AimStellar
28 | Link ➤

23 Nov 15:34
CNBC highlights ARKK in this morning's ETF spotlight segment. Proceeds to state that "the fund's top holding is ROKU ...". Tesla was not mentioned.
Chunky Jr.
27 | Link ➤

26 Nov 19:31
On this Thanksgiving, I'm thankful I'm not short TSLA
MXWing
27 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:20
Mary Barra, also places a sell rating on GM!

GM CEO Mary Barra Sells $7.7 Million Worth Of GM Stock.
ZeApelido
27 | Link ➤

25 Nov 23:07
867-5309
Chunky Jr.
27 | Link ➤

25 Nov 0:41
see also : "Is Apple's iPod about to get crushed by Microsoft's Zune?"
Pezpunk
27 | Link ➤

23 Nov 15:08
If you're concerned about the future of humanity, then buying a Hybrid is like a vegetarian ordering a cheeseburger because it has a pickle on it.

Plug-in hybrids in new emissions scandal as tests show higher pollution than claimed
Plug-in hybrids in new emissions scandal as tests show higher pollu...

Top 10 Authors - Funny

AuthorTop 5 Posts
ZeApelido
224
votes
24 posts
9.3 v/p
  1. I have calculated that if the current trend contin...
  2. Tesla is going to build a factory to make chargers...
  3. 867-5309
  4. Just remember, Adam Jonas' range for TSLA stock la...
  5. Today TSLA reached within $0.01 / share of me reac...
TheTalkingMule
202
votes
47 posts
4.3 v/p
  1. I don't want to shock or upset any of you, but CNB...
  2. Sharp TSLA coverage from CNBC Power Lunch just now...
  3. I'd just like to reiterate what a horrendous idea ...
  4. I know this is going to come to as a shocking surp...
  5. Hadn't planned on drinking today.
StealthP3D
192
votes
87 posts
2.2 v/p
  1. Exactly. We speak of a lot here of Tesla trying no...
  2. That's funny. Because S&P snubbed Tesla by not inc...
  3. I see the "worries" and "concerns" have started. ...
  4. Crazy, eh? I'm a little embarrassed about my ini...
  5. And here is the record of the analyst's calls they...
BlackS
186
votes
41 posts
4.5 v/p
  1. Being in tech myself, one silver lining to the pan...
  2. Found out why $TSLA is up AH....based on the pure ...
  3. My relentless jiggling has fixed the 'red' issue $...
  4. That explains why $GM is only up 4% today!
  5. Friend from vegas who is all in on $TSLA after i r...
Nocturnal
150
votes
30 posts
5 v/p
  1. Before I became a Tesla investor I actually enjoye...
  2. Even my Ex would at least wait until I finished my...
  3. Soon
  4. Musk was bullied greatly as a kid. He hates bullie...
  5. I'm beginning to go over my year end charitable do...
Artful Dodger
149
votes
64 posts
2.3 v/p
  1. Here's the thing: the Aug 2020 Stock dividend + Ca...
  2. Only if history repeats: 8 days in August: 8 day...
  3. If this happens, Tesla simply announces another 2:...
  4. Here is Call "Open Interest" x 100 (to represent #...
  5. HAMMER TIME! Cheers!
Krugerrand
110
votes
31 posts
3.5 v/p
  1. And the point everyone who thinks government to th...
  2. Interestingly enough, heard the exact same thing t...
  3. Hush. I’m concentrating on doing nothing.
  4. @StealthP3D has talked at length about why *we* do...
  5. 1. Tesla parts inventory doesn’t need to be as lar...
MXWing
108
votes
10 posts
10.8 v/p
  1. Cashed out some TSLA profit so buy my Bolt today! ...
  2. Mary Barra, also places a sell rating on GM! GM C...
  3. Ugg Thanksgiving is going to be awkward tomorrow. ...
  4. FIRST PERSON WHO SELLS GETS SHOT. And getting cov...
  5. Why would a SP 500 Index fund manager care? If the...
Chunky Jr.
90
votes
10 posts
9 v/p
  1. I thought about dabbling in options, but after rea...
  2. see also : "Is Apple's iPod about to get crushed b...
  3. On this Thanksgiving, I'm thankful I'm not short T...
  4. I'm usually on the outside looking in on opportuni...
  5. TSLA is now up over $100 in the past week
Unpilot
89
votes
17 posts
5.2 v/p
  1. Hope you all have a good weekend. Go outside walk...
  2. The main problem I see with options is it is like ...
  3. First Tesla I assume? They will do that to you. ...
  4. The thing about these stories...we don't see much ...
  5. Ok I am leaving the house...when I get back you gu...

Top 100 Total Positive Votes

Author /
Votes /
Time (GMT)
Content Preview
sbradbury
105 | Link ➤

23 Nov 20:51
So I don't post much, but TSLA is my first 10 bagger as of today. Investor since 2013
Todd Burch
98 | Link ➤

28 Nov 11:57
Referring to this Twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/truth_tesla/status/1332613785572532224?s=21

It’s been funny to watch Gary Black’s tweets the last few weeks.

When S&P inclusion announcement came, he was pumping TSLA and calling an expected top around $550.

This seemed quite low to me, and it...
Lbkmxp100d
97 | Link ➤

25 Nov 20:12
My neighbor who has the Cadillac self driving told me the same, that Cadillac self driving is ranked higher. I asked him for a drive. It nothing more than a lane keeping. I then gave him ride in my Tesla that has the beta FSD. It blew his mind. Not even in same league
Cattledog
96 | Link ➤

27 Nov 0:48
Way back in early 2013, after we had been driving our 2012 Model S for a month or two, I was gushing about the car on this forum, 'best car I've ever owned, etc.'. Someone remarked, 'You realize you own the WORST version of the Model S Tesla is ever going to make.' Bingo, pushed more chips into the ...
ClownMouth
95 | Link ➤

25 Nov 1:54
Men & Women, Kings & Queens - I know the stock is minting new Teslanaires every hour lately but allow me to humor you with a tale of a much smaller sum.

Through boneheaded oversight - I was saving in multiple other accounts - I only opened a Roth in November 2018. Every couple years I take a TD re...
SunCatcher
84 | Link ➤

26 Nov 1:24
New York Post; "Elon Musk passes Bill Gates on rich list, but still lags in philanthropy"
I won't add the link, but will say this; what greater charity can he contribute to than to "Accelerate the World's Transition to Sustainable Energy", and save lives from the deadly effects of pollution from th...
Curt Renz
72 | Link ➤

23 Nov 21:00
TSLA +6.5%

All-time intraday and closing highs.
Nocturnal
69 | Link ➤

28 Nov 15:11
Before I became a Tesla investor I actually enjoyed weekends.
Curt Renz
69 | Link ➤

25 Nov 19:59
Barron's - hour ago: Tesla Stock Rises Again, Creating Another Problem for Index Funds

Excerpt:

That means Tesla will likely go into the S&P 500 as the index's fifth or sixth largest company. And the more valuable it gets, the more shares index funds have to buy. And the more stock index funds hav...
Sancho
69 | Link ➤

24 Nov 11:04
I spoke to a lot of investment professionals over the years, and about 95% held a negative view of TSLA as an investment. Stunningly, that view persisted into the beginning of this year, despite everything that Tesla was achieving in plain sight.

Any professional who got TSLA wrong really should b...
st_lopes
69 | Link ➤

22 Nov 23:18
Took possession of my Model Y this week. I thought I was a high conviction long until this point. I’m now a you’ll be prying these shares from my cold, dead hands conviction long.

Some abrasions to paint on driver side handle (likely service team member with rings), rear brake lights TINY misalign...
Mike Smith
66 | Link ➤

26 Nov 4:25
The new FSD Beta is out and it's a huge improvement.

-Pulls right up to stop lines
-Goes through yellow lights appropriately
-Excellent roundabouts
-Far fewer interventions
clmason
65 | Link ➤

24 Nov 23:25
I was not expecting 1100% gains back in 2011.

Sharing this for education purposes:

Sorry, I don't have anyone else to celebrate with besides you all. Congrats Team!!!
feigen66
65 | Link ➤

22 Nov 5:04
{no text}
Curt Renz
63 | Link ➤

27 Nov 18:00
$DJI +0.1%
COMP +0.9%
SPX +0.2%

NKLA -7.6%
GM -0.9%
F +0.1%
FCAU +0.3%

TSLA +2.0%

A fourth consecutive session of TSLA all-time intraday and closing highs
JoNoSaisQuoi
63 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:57
I might be quite, but I am an old timer, I began building my position in March 2013. I have never sold a share. Nope it’s not a smirk for me. Nothing but gratitude because whenever I have doubted myself I check in here. It is comforting to see many familiar old posters. So many have left. Did they s...
Curt Renz
62 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:00
TSLA +6.4%

Again, all-time intraday and closing highs.
Lycanthrope
61 | Link ➤

23 Nov 11:10
The reality of hybrids: https://twitter.com/transenv/status/1330769714277199872
Curt Renz
59 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:00
$DJI -0.6%
COMP +0.6%
SPX -0.2%

NKLA -12.3%
F -3.9%
GM -2.2%
FCAU +0.7%

TSLA +3.4%

Another day of TSLA all-time intraday and closing highs
ggr
57 | Link ➤

24 Nov 19:21
This question keeps coming up. So let's see if I can help to either clarify or further muddy the waters.

There are three kinds of funds in the world:
1. Index funds, which (in the context of this discussion) track the S&P 500 index as exactly as possible. These funds have no discretion about what a...
Right_Said_Fred
56 | Link ➤

28 Nov 18:51
Have we reached the top of this runup at 598 yesterday? I believe we have not, if you compare it to the other runups we had this year.

- All of those tops were a blow off top: 965 pre-split in January, 1796 pre-split in July, 498 post-split in August (if you count the 540 in premarket the next day)...
NakedLong
56 | Link ➤

27 Nov 23:29
I always considered myself a super bull on Tesla, but the stock has gone up considerably faster than myself and pretty much everyone else imagined. I have several thoughts around this topic, but my general idea is that we have a massive conservative bias with our Tesla predictions.

Take a look back...
ZeApelido
56 | Link ➤

24 Nov 23:37
I have calculated that if the current trend continues for the next 173 trading days, I will become the wealthiest person in the world.
Prunesquallor
56 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:00
I would be on the outside looking in if not for :
1) My wife asking about Tesla cars back in Nov 2018
2) Me researching the car
3) Me buying M3 Dec 2018
4) Me finding this thread April 2019
5) Me investing starting in May 2019
6) Me very happy Nov 2020
Rammstein
56 | Link ➤

23 Nov 21:07
What a year this has been. I cracked my skull from a scooter accident 2 months ago. Got covid a month ago so had to reschedule my follow up appointment with the skull surgeon. Just had the follow up and everything is fine and covid was just a stuffy nose for me. In the meantime I became pretty rich ...
Ameliorate
55 | Link ➤

27 Nov 3:54
Happy thanksgiving to my neighbors!

All time high's are pretty nice, might be at a bit of an ATH myself.
Feeling like my truck order will be a few years yet so this inventory model X happened. O.O
Probably retire my parents dangerous old vehicle and split the usage of the X and my current truck ...
avoigt
54 | Link ➤

23 Nov 11:56
My pleasure and thanks for your kind words!

Herbert Diess, CEO VW in Nov 2020

“ ... you have to take a person who changes the industry in such a way very seriously. And he doesn't only do it in the car. His commitment in space is also remarkable and therefore worthwhile to deal with him.” (…) “He ...
rdalcanto
53 | Link ➤

25 Nov 18:51
Fidelity won't give up. After failing to get me to talk to one of their advisors about my Portfolio (which is 100% TSLA), they called my wife about diversifying and getting help to manage it (as if any of their advisor's returns can get to even 1/10th of mine). She told them we aren't interested.......
Navin
52 | Link ➤

28 Nov 17:44
The $20 million of Tesla stock Elon Musk purchased as part of his SEC settlement is now worth $167m
MC3OZ
52 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:56
Converting to official units :-,TSLA is now up over 2.5 Gordons in the past week.
SOULPEDL
51 | Link ➤

27 Nov 20:40
Done - Model Y w/ FSD, White Seats, Metallic Blue.
Cyber still on order. Get em while you can, I'm serious.
Mike Smith
51 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:35
We should start a support thread for those of us suffering through feelings of guilt about 2020 being the best year of their life..
4chi
50 | Link ➤

25 Nov 18:37
Happy US Thanksgiving to all the posters in here. Appreciate all the knowledge passed along in this thread. I read it daily but have never posted. So Thanks.

I'm just HODL in several accts. Eyeing a $721 SP to make us Teslanaires.
Curt Renz
50 | Link ➤

24 Nov 19:36
Craig Johnson is a managing director and technical strategist at Piper Sandler (formerly Piper Jaffray). He was a regular guest of mine on my old TV show, and still sends me his newsletters. In early 2013 he recommended TSLA, which led to my first purchase at $38 ($7.60 post-split).

Below is what C...
AimStellar
50 | Link ➤

24 Nov 11:58
I downloaded and am fine ... except all my TSLA shares were liquidated and I now have a portfolio full of Nikola and Halliburton??
JBRR
50 | Link ➤

24 Nov 8:23
"How do you end up the worlds 2nd richest man?" "Start as the richest man in the world and bet on Blue Origin"

"how do you end up as the world 3rd richest man?" "Start as the richest and bet on hydrogen and porche taycan"
TheTalkingMule
49 | Link ➤

24 Nov 13:54
I don't want to shock or upset any of you, but CNBC hasn't mentioned TSLA in it's "stocks making the biggest moves in pre-market" today. Unclear why. Perhaps it's just a clerical error?
Mike Smith
49 | Link ➤

24 Nov 2:43
Elon on Twitter: "FSD Beta 5 coming out in a few days. Improvement should be significant."

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1331062680921235456
wtlloyd
49 | Link ➤

23 Nov 14:49
I hate these mornings. What's the point in leaving for work when I've just made a month's income in less than an hour?
Johan
48 | Link ➤

25 Nov 8:34
So basically you're saying you buy when the price is lower, then sell as the price has gone up, then buy back when the price is lower again? Rinse, repeat, and voila you make more money than just buying and holding? Interesting concept, now if you could just give me a heads up every time the price i...
TheTalkingMule
48 | Link ➤

23 Nov 20:03
Sharp TSLA coverage from CNBC Power Lunch just now.

"Wow, that's high!"
"Yeah it is."

Really useful insights for your investor audience.
PeterJA
48 | Link ➤

22 Nov 17:42
A share price of $1k will give Tesla a market cap of 1 trillion dollars, not 2. Is that decoupled from reality "by the end of this year"? The market is forward looking. What will they see by the end of this year?

1) Three new factories each producing 1-2 million vehicles within a few years, if they...
Chunky Jr.
47 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:34
I thought about dabbling in options, but after reading about them for a while, I decided it might be more productive to just set that money on fire so at least it could have some value keeping me warm. I admire those of you who know how to play that game - it looks way too complicated for my feeble ...
cliffski
45 | Link ➤

28 Nov 13:52
Just had a sudden realization about robototaxis.

As someone who doesn't really need the extra income, and lives somewhere rural (not exactly an uber service in all these fields) I had always assumed that robotaxi would be useless for me, and people like me, who live in super-low density locations/....
StealthP3D
45 | Link ➤

28 Nov 4:05
Exactly. We speak of a lot here of Tesla trying not to "Osborne" sales of one product with another, newer, better product. But the real Osborne effect is that EV's Osborne traditional ICE autos as people gradually figure out how superior an EV is to ICE. That is why legacy auto is dragging their fee...
JBRR
45 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:49
some clarification from Shirley Meng on Elon's 50 cent comment.

https://twitter.com/YingShirleyMen1/status/1331276061351452672?s=20
Krugerrand
45 | Link ➤

24 Nov 14:04
And the point everyone who thinks government to the rescue in Germany is that Tesla is about to become ‘German’.

I continue to be amazed that there are still people ‘here’ stuck in a box of conventional thinking. As if the innovation and disruption and extraordinary accomplishments of Tesla only a...
wipster
45 | Link ➤

23 Nov 23:22
Market will be up big tomorrow, GSA just validated Presidential Transition process!

First on CNN: GSA tells Biden that transition can formally begin

First on CNN: GSA tells Biden that transition can formally begin - CNNPolitics
JusRelax
45 | Link ➤

23 Nov 22:11
"Breaking news: Tesla founder Elon Musk shocked at how high current Tesla valuation is" - Lora Kolodny
Paul_SF
45 | Link ➤

23 Nov 10:21
{no text}
PeterJA
45 | Link ➤

22 Nov 23:51
Consumer Reports should add a few more questions to their owner survey:

1) Is your car a chick magnet?

2) Do chicks measure your panel gaps when you pick them up?

3) Has any chick, ever, in your lifetime with chicks, given half a shite about your panel gaps?
kanweg
44 | Link ➤

25 Nov 19:23
Don’t feel bad, it could be worse. I’m the only person Curt Renz never had on his show (at least, that is the impression I get from his posts that start with who he had on his show.)
JBRR
44 | Link ➤

24 Nov 10:23
{no text}
JaredM3
43 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:48
Thank you for confirming which I was already 99% decided was to hold them and just add to it. I hope to be able to put another 50-100k by the end of January.

I love the atmosphere in here and how everyone just wants to help everyone, and share their knowledge and experiences regardless of their pos...
FrankSG
43 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:25
Don't disagree with any of this, except for the fact that you use present tense. TSLA volume is way too low right now for any of this to be currently going on. If there are buyers, it's definitely not anybody big. I think the main reason for the rise from $410 to $550 has been some speculation, and ...
Johann Koeber
42 | Link ➤

28 Nov 16:09
Business here in Germany is going really well, it seems.

2 weeks ago I ordered another M3 (and last week an MS Plaid). The order page said Feb2021 delivery. Yesterday I got a call that I could take delivery this year if I wish.

So my new M3 has a tentative delivery date of Dec. 24, which is remark...
StealthP3D
42 | Link ➤

28 Nov 7:42
That's funny. Because S&P snubbed Tesla by not including them when they were clearly eligible, then they realized they were in a pickle that was getting worse with each passing profitable quarter. Better late than never, but they basically proved they needed Tesla more than Tesla needed them. Elon h...
CorneliusXX
42 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:28
Carsonight has an update on Fremont cell volumes.

https://twitter.com/carsonight/status/1332418955386912768
Artful Dodger
42 | Link ➤

26 Nov 21:48
Here's the thing: the Aug 2020 Stock dividend + Cap raise showed us that $5B of forced buying over a 1 mth period drove the SP up ~90%

Now, we're looking out at a MINIMUM of $50B for forced buying over a 1 mth period. Sure it could be a bit more, and the S&P Committee might dick with the rules a ta...
2daMoon
42 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:02
After lurking here for months I wanted to celebrate my first TSLA purchase going from Short to Long and went ahead and signed up.

Y'all are a ton of fun and have become one of my daily go-to resources. Along with Teslarati, SMR (love you all), Tesla Daily, and of course Nasdaq and Fidelity sites.
...
BlackS
42 | Link ➤

24 Nov 20:54
Being in tech myself, one silver lining to the pandemic has been to demonstrate beyond doubt that people CAN work from home effectively and efficiently --- except for TMC members on days like today
Right_Said_Fred
42 | Link ➤

24 Nov 11:24
A total of 8 posts on colonoscopy were just flushed out. All it took was some laxative prep. Don't let your accounts get flushed out too.
Pezpunk
42 | Link ➤

23 Nov 15:08
If you're concerned about the future of humanity, then buying a Hybrid is like a vegetarian ordering a cheeseburger because it has a pickle on it.

Plug-in hybrids in new emissions scandal as tests show higher pollution than claimed
Plug-in hybrids in new emissions scandal as tests show higher pollu...
Khamul
42 | Link ➤

23 Nov 11:44
From the bottom of my heart: those bastards. I have no words that can accurately describe my feelings for them.

They have cheated over and over again, knowing full well that it is of imperatively importance that we get all cars converted to electric, and yet they do this over and over again.

When ...
Artful Dodger
41 | Link ➤

28 Nov 2:53
Only if history repeats:

8 days in August:

8 days in November:

Hint: the August run was 15 days (not 8), and was fueled by just $5B in forced buying (not $50B).

TL;dr We're just about half way into this run. And the end is Dec 24, not Dec 21 (Index funds can buy +/- 3 days of the effective inclu...
Unpilot
41 | Link ➤

27 Nov 21:58
Hope you all have a good weekend.
Go outside walk in nature..hug your loved ones.
Be thankful for all you have.

Then put the helmet and seat belts on because next week is going to be a wild fun ride!
JBRR
41 | Link ➤

25 Nov 7:23
Join the Cell Team | Tesla

Cool footage here
Lbkmxp100d
41 | Link ➤

23 Nov 3:20
Street high PT and 1,000 Bull case. Wow!
CLK350
41 | Link ➤

21 Nov 18:32
From Elon directly from his Tweet,Tesla is not just cars

Elon Musk
Tesla is a vehicle for creating & producing many useful products
12:47 PM · Nov 21, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Todd Burch
40 | Link ➤

27 Nov 19:54
No offense to anyone holding FB, but I can’t understand how it’s STILL worth more than Tesla. It’s basically a webpage with a thumbs-up button and the most complicated logic is that if I know Joey, and Jesus knows Joey, then I know Jesus.

Meanwhile, Tesla is transforming the world and teaching cars...
Words of HABIT
40 | Link ➤

27 Nov 0:16
Dave Lee's Investment Podcost 198. What's next for Tesla.
Dave was a big reason why I invested in Tesla January 2013 after reading his posts on TMC since October 2012. And a big part of why I am still invested in Tesla today.
Thanks Dave. Thanks TMC. Thanks Tesla.
FrankSG
40 | Link ➤

26 Nov 7:42
I won't make an exact prediction, which is impossible anyway, but the model I've created will give people a lot more data to base their own predictions on. The main use of the model is to give people a better feel for how much selling pressure there will be at various stock price levels.

Going to g...
cyclingthealps
40 | Link ➤

25 Nov 8:41
I am still here, not posting much but grateful for all the valuable content provided here. Once more, thank you all.
My current status is that my portfolio is nearing €100.000 which is unbelievable because at the beginning of 2018 my portfolio was €6000-€10000.
Curt Renz
40 | Link ➤

24 Nov 21:17
My Brokerage's Newsfeed - this afternoon:

CFRA REITERATES STRONG BUY OPINION ON SHARES OF TESLA, INC. 1:43 pm ET November 24, 2020 (CFRA) Print We increase our 12-month price target by $100 to $650, implying a '22 P/E of 113x. Our adjusted EPS estimates remain $2.30 for '20, $3.50 for '21, and $5.7...
Pezpunk
39 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:42
buy-and-hold has got me within spitting distance of 8 figures. why engage in complicated, risky behavior when a simple, safe strategy is making me rich already? not advice or criticism. just my own personal philosophy.

edit: i suppose i should acknowledge that "safe" is a relative term. anywhere ot...
Baumisch
39 | Link ➤

24 Nov 12:12
Thank you for uploading - I put it on my Youtube:

UPDATE: Still being processed ... come on YT go go go !
Prunesquallor
38 | Link ➤

27 Nov 22:43
Tesla Storms the S&P 500. Here’s the Bull Case.
-Barron's

OK, all you meme-makers. Have at it!
cyclingthealps
38 | Link ➤

26 Nov 7:55
Short interest increased (a little) in the period from 10/30/2020 (share price $388) to 11/13/2020 (share price $408)

Shares shorted from 47.800.000 to 47.900.000
Float shorted from 6,34% to 6,32% (which is a decrease, some kind of float increase should have happened in this time period, I will tra...
H Mak
38 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:39
On 31st August TSLA closed at 498 so it's a 15% rise from then till today. In the three months since then we've had:

Battery Day
Q3 deliveries
Q3 earnings
S&P announcement

The last few days have felt a bit mad, but when you put a 15% rise in the context of those events, it's actually all rather se...
Krugerrand
38 | Link ➤

22 Nov 20:34
Interestingly enough, heard the exact same thing this past year when Tesla soared to just under $1,000. Lots of people patting themselves on the back when TSLA retraced (but conveniently don’t bother to mention a lot of that was pandemic related not valuation related), then got back on the TSLA too ...
LN1_Casey
38 | Link ➤

22 Nov 5:43
Doing my part to help Q4. And help further with my Model S which should be delivered maybe in two weeks.

I already have a hotwheels Model S, and I'll get the model Model S on Friday-ish, and then my real Model S the week following. Slowing increasing in size!
StealthP3D
37 | Link ➤

28 Nov 14:28
I see the "worries" and "concerns" have started.

1) There is no such thing as a concerning "too high a rise in SP". If the shares go too high, they will come back down. Problem solved. Those of us who are long-term holders have seen that happen in the past and are certain to see it happen in the fu...
Johan
37 | Link ➤

27 Nov 13:59
I was going to post that the last few months reminds of the time period in 2013 where we had multi-dag huge gap-ups and those enormous upticks after ERs, in which I made a small fortune trading options which almost paid for my Model S. So I looked up a quick stock price chart overview for all of TSL...
Beezer_9
37 | Link ➤

26 Nov 13:21
The only day we will all be on the same page
MXWing
37 | Link ➤

26 Nov 0:18
Cashed out some TSLA profit so buy my Bolt today!

(said no one ever)
woodisgood
37 | Link ➤

25 Nov 21:17
Did I read that correctly? You were short TSLA?

Someone get Neuralink on the phone...this is a neuroscience breakthrough. We can grow brain!
Open Interest
36 | Link ➤

26 Nov 19:20
I’d like to give thanks to this wonderful Tesla community I feel privileged to be part of.

I can’t thank you enough for the education, the encouragement, discussions and laughs along the way. What a journey it has been, especially this year.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
tinyrodent
36 | Link ➤

26 Nov 21:15
Original German: Verleihung des Axel Springer Awards: "An Evening for Elon Musk - Mission to Mars" live aus Berlin am 1. Dezember, Axel Springer SE, Pressemitteilung - lifePR

Google Translate:

Presentation of the Axel Springer Award: "An Evening for Elon Musk - Mission to Mars" live from Berlin on...
TheTalkingMule
36 | Link ➤

25 Nov 16:33
I'd just like to reiterate what a horrendous idea this was to give 36 days notice rather than the traditional 7.

We learn many lessons in trading and the value of simply remaining long from posters here, but let us not forget the lessons from the other side of the counter. Everything these idiots d...
StealthP3D
36 | Link ➤

21 Nov 17:09
Crazy, eh?

I'm a little embarrassed about my initial TMC reaction to it as it was unveiled. I was pretty sure Musk was being a prankster and playing a mean trick on us. How could he jerk our emotions around like this? Shattering our dreams in an instant. Certainly, the "real" Cybertruck would be r...
Todesbuckler
35 | Link ➤

28 Nov 10:00
New video from Giga Shanghai with first Model Y doing the test track:

Yason Yang:
"I have seen Tesla Model Y for testing in GF3 many times, which means that GF3 will soon be able to mass produce model Y, just waiting for the production license and sales license."
JBRR
35 | Link ➤

28 Nov 10:27
Herbert Diess: "The change will take place in ten years - with or without Volkswagen"

„In rund zehn Jahren werden wir autonom fahren können“

Google Translate

How we transform Volkswagen
engle
35 | Link ➤

27 Nov 2:40
Russ' $TSLA "Base", "Bear", "Best", and "Elon's 20M units" Share Price Predictions for 12/31/2030

I think @Robocop makes an important point. $AAPL market cap is ~$2T today. If you assume that $TSLA continues to be the dominant force in a growing EV market profit-wise (like Apple over Android), with...
PeterJA
35 | Link ➤

26 Nov 23:46
Anyone thinking of selling their TSLA shares at $600 or $800 or $1000 should watch this video. The nuclear bomb that will destroy the auto industry as we know it is coming much sooner than most people expect, and your company is gonna unleash it.
oldTAVguy
35 | Link ➤

25 Nov 13:43
CNBS lead TSLA video this AM has David Trainer saying that TSLA is only worth $50 per share.

Shows that CNBS is the greatest source ever for financial analysis. /s

FYI:
David Trainer
Seeking Alpha
Financial Blogger
Ranked #6,245 out of 7,739 Bloggers on TipRanks (#12,084 out of 14,851 overall expe...
Krugerrand
35 | Link ➤

23 Nov 14:52
Hush. I’m concentrating on doing nothing.
heltok
35 | Link ➤

23 Nov 6:16
Anyone else getting tired of all analysts upgrading Tesla right after Tesla has had a bull run? It’s like they use a formula
new price target = current price + ∆analyst where ∆analyst is a fixed percentage. That these random publishing of this totally predictable number should somehow change the fut...
Christine600
34 | Link ➤

25 Nov 23:56
Morgan Stanley Downgrades Ford, Says EV Strategy Is 'Not Fully Clear'

Adam Jonas downgraded Ford's stock from Overweight to Equal-Weight with an unchanged $9 price target.

Management's unclear strategy makes it more difficult to model Ford's EV growth profile given the "state of flux" of its EV st...
Chunky Jr.
34 | Link ➤

25 Nov 0:41
see also : "Is Apple's iPod about to get crushed by Microsoft's Zune?"
JBRR
34 | Link ➤

24 Nov 16:46
Source: EV-Volumes - The Electric Vehicle World Sales Database

Top 10 Authors - Total Positive Votes

AuthorTop 5 Posts
StealthP3D
923
votes
87 posts
10.6 v/p
  1. Exactly. We speak of a lot here of Tesla trying no...
  2. That's funny. Because S&P snubbed Tesla by not inc...
  3. I see the "worries" and "concerns" have started. ...
  4. Crazy, eh? I'm a little embarrassed about my ini...
  5. And here is the record of the analyst's calls they...
Artful Dodger
863
votes
64 posts
13.5 v/p
  1. Here's the thing: the Aug 2020 Stock dividend + Ca...
  2. Only if history repeats: 8 days in August: 8 day...
  3. If this happens, Tesla simply announces another 2:...
  4. Here is Call "Open Interest" x 100 (to represent #...
  5. HAMMER TIME! Cheers!
Curt Renz
797
votes
27 posts
29.5 v/p
  1. TSLA +6.5% All-time intraday and closing highs.
  2. Barron's - hour ago: Tesla Stock Rises Again, Crea...
  3. $DJI +0.1% COMP +0.9% SPX +0.2% NKLA -7.6% GM -0....
  4. TSLA +6.4% Again, all-time intraday and closing h...
  5. $DJI -0.6% COMP +0.6% SPX -0.2% NKLA -12.3% F -3....
TheTalkingMule
449
votes
47 posts
9.6 v/p
  1. I don't want to shock or upset any of you, but CNB...
  2. Sharp TSLA coverage from CNBC Power Lunch just now...
  3. I'd just like to reiterate what a horrendous idea ...
  4. I know this is going to come to as a shocking surp...
  5. Hadn't planned on drinking today.
JBRR
449
votes
22 posts
20.4 v/p
  1. "How do you end up the worlds 2nd richest man?" "S...
  2. some clarification from Shirley Meng on Elon's 50 ...
  3. {no text}
  4. Join the Cell Team | Tesla Cool footage here
  5. Herbert Diess: "The change will take place in ten ...
Lycanthrope
412
votes
48 posts
8.6 v/p
  1. The reality of hybrids: https://twitter.com/transe...
  2. R2, you say? I took delivery of mine this morning!...
  3. That was the $1 per contract Jan 2021 $650's that ...
  4. Probably, the $$ is very weak for the moment - hav...
  5. As said a few times, by others and I, they should ...
Krugerrand
368
votes
31 posts
11.9 v/p
  1. And the point everyone who thinks government to th...
  2. Interestingly enough, heard the exact same thing t...
  3. Hush. I’m concentrating on doing nothing.
  4. @StealthP3D has talked at length about why *we* do...
  5. 1. Tesla parts inventory doesn’t need to be as lar...
BlackS
336
votes
41 posts
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  1. Being in tech myself, one silver lining to the pan...
  2. Found out why $TSLA is up AH....based on the pure ...
  3. My relentless jiggling has fixed the 'red' issue $...
  4. That explains why $GM is only up 4% today!
  5. Friend from vegas who is all in on $TSLA after i r...
ZeApelido
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  2. Tesla is going to build a factory to make chargers...
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  4. Just remember, Adam Jonas' range for TSLA stock la...
  5. Today TSLA reached within $0.01 / share of me reac...
Nocturnal
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  1. Before I became a Tesla investor I actually enjoye...
  2. Even my Ex would at least wait until I finished my...
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  5. I'm beginning to go over my year end charitable do...
 
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Daily Roundup: 29 November
Posts from 29 Nov 00:50 GMT to 29 Nov 23:58 GMT
Votes as of 30 Nov 14:06 GMT

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JBRR
63 | Link ➤

29 Nov 11:01
Tesla’s S&P 500 Debut Is Set to Put $100 Billion in Trades in Motion

"Asset managers and trading desks across Wall Street have held virtual summits to debate the matter. The vote from many appears to be for the two-day option, partly because of Tesla's size, along with the potential for elevated vo...
Silentkeravelt
25 | Link ➤

29 Nov 11:19
Thanks for that, last five minutes is the main part to listen to. Basically expects price to keep rising until mid-January, current PT of $775

He seems to have a slightly better record than our good friend Gordon ;-)
mickle
20 | Link ➤

29 Nov 2:36
This guy has an interesting video on how much fund stock buying there will be related to Tesla S&P inclusion. he thinks there will be about 5.5 million shares bought every day since the announcement, for 42 days (until mid January).
Artful Dodger
16 | Link ➤

29 Nov 23:15
Futures quotes are now alive in NYC. All 3 major indices are +UP.

Cheers!
enzo
15 | Link ➤

29 Nov 23:04
A note for this week. The high altitude launch/bellyflop of Starship will generate a lot of media coverage. If it fails, it could be spectacular and produce some viral videos, which will be used to generate FUD around Musk's perceived credibility. It could also trigger trading algos since Tesla tend...
Lycanthrope
15 | Link ➤

29 Nov 10:07
Interesting, not a single new Model S or X in inventory, nothing "in transit", as far as I can see. Delivery date for custom-build in EU is March, in the US 3-5 weeks. I only see 4 CPO cars.

I can only come to two rational conclusions:
- current manufacturing capacity sold-out on existing orders, o...
ggr
12 | Link ➤

29 Nov 23:50
I'm fed up. People completely ignore moderator instructions to stop posting about ... anything... colonoscopies, child seats, politics, island vs. mountain, Coronavirus, sex, sexism, attacks on other members, whatever. Then there are so many different off-topic subjects that there is no hope of mana...
generalenthu
12 | Link ➤

29 Nov 21:22
Regarding the WSJ article about potential inclusion over 2 quarters, and there being a precedent with MSCI and china A shares, I am not sure we should give that too much weight.

My cursory research shows the weight went from 5% of index to 20% in 2019. Obviously, doing that in one shot would be too...
AudubonB
11 | Link ➤

29 Nov 19:21
~~~~A very strong recommendation - plea, even - from your Moderator:

PLEASE convert ALL “Price Target” or other such prognostications regarding TSLA’s future price levels to split-adjusted numbers. At the very, very least, indicate whether each number to which you refer is pre- or post-split.

If y...
PeterJA
11 | Link ➤

29 Nov 18:24
Here's an argument that the runup will NOT be followed by a big pullback, regardless of whether inclusion is spread out:

Two groups of funds are being forced to buy TSLA: index funds and benchmarked funds. The indexers have to finish buying by a certain date and don't care much what price they pay....
AudubonB
10 | Link ➤

29 Nov 19:06
Preamble: As ever, I remain implacable in my recommendation either to hold, or to purchase more. It still is early days, and my Wayback machine showed my memory was correct: this forum’s first conjectures about the prospect for and ramifications of S&P500 were in 2013, by Yours Truly.

Nonetheless, ...
generalenthu
7 | Link ➤

29 Nov 23:04
Just ask fidelity to advance you a margin loan at fedfunds plus 50 bps. If not, threaten to move to IBKR, which has lowest published rates.

I know someone who moved from IBKR to TD ameritrade, now Schwab, because they offered to undercut IB on margin rates for loans in excess of $1MM. Nothing will ...
StealthP3D
7 | Link ➤

29 Nov 7:15
It's not just fund managers that take time to absorb information and change their mind about something and act on it - humans, in general, don't naturally work like this. Most humans are not accustomed to absorbing complex information and immediately acting on it with real dollars. It takes time to ...
UkNorthampton
7 | Link ➤

29 Nov 11:11
When a normal OEM makes a product, they get components, perhaps significant sub-assemblies from suppliers.

Those suppliers are (generally) free to sell to other OEMs, the supplier captures some of the Wright's Law / economies of scale. The suppliers' cumulative parts catalogues get bigger and Catal...
Paul_SF
7 | Link ➤

29 Nov 2:09
OT, but there were some opinions here about Apple. And it actually pertains to Tesla also, as a disruptive company.
BlackS
6 | Link ➤

29 Nov 21:47
I know jason debolt who owns 15k shares of $TSLA did this with Fidelity and they initially offered him 4% APR but dropped it to 2% APR after they found out Wells Fargo had given him 2.375%. Worth a shot in asking.
OrthoSurg
6 | Link ➤

29 Nov 13:53
Timing the market is really hard.
I tried 4 times and failed 3 times.
Lost couple hundred grands of potential profit in the process and paid hundred grands of unnecessary taxes.
Might have helped Canadian society in general during covid by funding the CERB. That’s what I like to tell myself when I g...
woodisgood
6 | Link ➤

29 Nov 15:55
If they announce inclusion to take place over two quarters, I’d expect a dip as calls are repositioned. Some of the current run-up is probably related to delta-hedging resulting from December call buying. Many big players will probably want to move some of their bets to the next quarter. You’ll reca...
Krugerrand
6 | Link ➤

29 Nov 12:57
Bloody poetry. Can nobody follow any of the unwritten curtesies of this thread anymore? Though shall not mention Apple and Tesla in the same sentence, though shall not write poetry, etc., etc., Never mind the fact, there is no question. We hold until the sky falls and the shares have to be pried fro...
UnknownSoldier
6 | Link ➤

29 Nov 5:24
I mean, you're completely wrong in every possible way it is possible to be wrong about this.

The Apple Silicon designs are completely novel implementations of ARM architecture, that's why they are so superior to anything made by Qualcomm or anyone else using standard ARM cores. If process node were...
FrankSG
6 | Link ➤

29 Nov 0:50
1. I think that's very unlikely. For the most part, a higher stock price is better for a company than a lower one. A more stable stock price is also preferred in most cases, but it's not like Tesla can make TSLA less volatile.

2. An equilibrium will be reached one way or another, be it at $600, $80...
Dreadnought
5 | Link ➤

29 Nov 21:58
It doesn't concern Tesla's long-term success and as such doesn't belong to this thread. But since it relates to Tesla's mission and there are a few hours to kill until trading commences...

What makes you believe that there will be 40 Mio ICE cars sold by 2030? Petrol cars sales in EU declined 24% Y...
Krugerrand
5 | Link ➤

29 Nov 21:20
I have a cat.
I eat meat.
I have lots of money thanks to TSLA.
I own a mountain - albeit not a famous one.
Nobody here is ever getting an invite.
Trespassers will be shot even if they show up in a CYBRTRCK. I’ll be using a big enough caliber.
I don’t bluff 99.99% of the time, so clearly there is ro...
TheTalkingMule
5 | Link ➤

29 Nov 16:48
I don't see how spreading this inclusion over six months would dramatically lower the peak SP. Buying would continue in the same volumes, shareholders would likely be even LESS inclined to sell, and all sorts of +macro evens could pile on. The spike might be shaved by 10-20%, but I bet avg purchase ...
Robocop
5 | Link ➤

29 Nov 17:22
Re: The addition of TSLA in a tranche during Q1 2021:

S&P specifically said "Due to the large size of the addition, S&P Dow Jones Indices is seeking feedback through a consultation to the investment community to determine if Tesla should be added all at once on the rebalance effective date or in tw...

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BlackS
50 | Link ➤

29 Nov 16:34
Thanks to $TSLA! Definitely a once in a lifetime opportunity and i am glad we are all here for the ride! Whatever happens to $TSLA in short term does not affect my decision to sell...i am still constantly adding and will continue to add until i see any fundamental changes that change my mind.
ggr
35 | Link ➤

29 Nov 23:50
I'm fed up. People completely ignore moderator instructions to stop posting about ... anything... colonoscopies, child seats, politics, island vs. mountain, Coronavirus, sex, sexism, attacks on other members, whatever. Then there are so many different off-topic subjects that there is no hope of mana...
TheTalkingMule
33 | Link ➤

29 Nov 16:48
I don't see how spreading this inclusion over six months would dramatically lower the peak SP. Buying would continue in the same volumes, shareholders would likely be even LESS inclined to sell, and all sorts of +macro evens could pile on. The spike might be shaved by 10-20%, but I bet avg purchase ...
Tes La Ferrari
29 | Link ➤

29 Nov 21:43
Dedicated to all the TSLA HODL'rs, & FUD fighters:

“Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's ...
Unpilot
29 | Link ➤

29 Nov 15:15
It seems if that was a concern they should have added ASAP as anyone with 2 working neurons could see what direction Tesla was going.

I have little sympathy for Wall street funds getting run over by a company many have actively tried to squish.
AudubonB
29 | Link ➤

29 Nov 6:20
~~~And of those two pages, ONCE AGAIN most had little to do with TSLA/Tesla. Go start your own AAPL/Apple thread if you can’t keep to Tesla. There likely aren’t any such, and the internet is quite drivel-starved.~~~
Lycanthrope
26 | Link ➤

29 Nov 21:40
I don't think S&P will spread $TSLA inclusion farther, they've already announced it will be fully in the index by 21st December, they gave no options past that, it was all in on 21st, or spread between 14th and 21st, anything else would be inviting legal action by those that lost money in the last f...
Jackl1956
25 | Link ➤

29 Nov 20:13
A heartfelt thank you, to all the good folks at Tesla Motors and the TMC...
AudubonB
25 | Link ➤

29 Nov 19:21
~~~~A very strong recommendation - plea, even - from your Moderator:

PLEASE convert ALL “Price Target” or other such prognostications regarding TSLA’s future price levels to split-adjusted numbers. At the very, very least, indicate whether each number to which you refer is pre- or post-split.

If y...
FrankSG
24 | Link ➤

29 Nov 0:50
1. I think that's very unlikely. For the most part, a higher stock price is better for a company than a lower one. A more stable stock price is also preferred in most cases, but it's not like Tesla can make TSLA less volatile.

2. An equilibrium will be reached one way or another, be it at $600, $80...
PeterJA
23 | Link ➤

29 Nov 6:16
Getting back to TSLA…

To HODL or not to HODL: that is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the wallet to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous media
Shrieking overvalued bubble!
Or to sell, perchance to buy back lower.
Ay, there’s the rub.
For in that sale what lost gains may come
When we have...
StealthP3D
22 | Link ➤

29 Nov 7:15
It's not just fund managers that take time to absorb information and change their mind about something and act on it - humans, in general, don't naturally work like this. Most humans are not accustomed to absorbing complex information and immediately acting on it with real dollars. It takes time to ...
Robocop
20 | Link ➤

29 Nov 17:22
Re: The addition of TSLA in a tranche during Q1 2021:

S&P specifically said "Due to the large size of the addition, S&P Dow Jones Indices is seeking feedback through a consultation to the investment community to determine if Tesla should be added all at once on the rebalance effective date or in tw...
Nocturnal
20 | Link ➤

29 Nov 1:46
Late night musing that I’ll blame on the bourbon (unless it’s a good musing). Consider this:

Robotaxi fleets will need access to parking lots with charging and repair/service infrastructure. These locations need to have great access to highways near major population centers, but a little out to min...
PeterJA
19 | Link ➤

29 Nov 18:24
Here's an argument that the runup will NOT be followed by a big pullback, regardless of whether inclusion is spread out:

Two groups of funds are being forced to buy TSLA: index funds and benchmarked funds. The indexers have to finish buying by a certain date and don't care much what price they pay....
MC3OZ
15 | Link ➤

29 Nov 23:58
I've been reflecting on my role in "Apple Gate" and the problem is responding to posts that are off topic, when you disagree, or think some aspect has been overlooked, it is easy to take that bait.

We all need to be smarter, that begins by reflecting on instances when you have contributed to the p...
StealthP3D
15 | Link ➤

29 Nov 17:25
Common sense says they could change their mind. But that would come with significant liabilities and lawsuits including the fact that it would diminish their standing in the world. That's why II see it as unlikely. The only thing that makes it worth considering is that humans can be greedy, stupid, ...
Krugerrand
14 | Link ➤

29 Nov 12:57
Bloody poetry. Can nobody follow any of the unwritten curtesies of this thread anymore? Though shall not mention Apple and Tesla in the same sentence, though shall not write poetry, etc., etc., Never mind the fact, there is no question. We hold until the sky falls and the shares have to be pried fro...
jkirkwood001
14 | Link ➤

29 Nov 4:31
You're kidding, right, @Bet TSLA ? Please cite a reference for this claim. I'm a technology consultant and I see tons of people and orgs keeping their old Windows computers way longer. In fact, @MXWing bragged about his / her family replacing their four iPhones every year.

I don't know why I'm deb...
Krugerrand
13 | Link ➤

29 Nov 13:12
What a bunch of kittens and etrons. I scoff at all of them. You make the bed, you lie in it.
Selenas
13 | Link ➤

29 Nov 2:47
Tesla didn't start out to make an "okay" car that happened to be electric. They set out to make a car that was better than other cars and is electric. Elon understood that in order to get people to buy their cars they had to be better, faster, sexier. I think choosing a robotaxi should not be a sacr...
CorneliusXX
12 | Link ➤

29 Nov 20:08
I don't believe anything ValueAnalyst says, regardless of whether they are ultimately right or wrong.
CLK350
12 | Link ➤

29 Nov 14:46
Somewhat OT, but since it may affect how people invest in TSLA my 2 cents here. The Apple/ Windows aka Microsoft comparison is not the relevant issue to look at. And the Apple / Tesla comparison is tenuous at best. Elon would probably dismiss it jokingly as he only can.

TLDR: invest in other than A...
UnknownSoldier
12 | Link ➤

29 Nov 5:24
I mean, you're completely wrong in every possible way it is possible to be wrong about this.

The Apple Silicon designs are completely novel implementations of ARM architecture, that's why they are so superior to anything made by Qualcomm or anyone else using standard ARM cores. If process node were...
JRP3
11 | Link ➤

29 Nov 1:04
The big guys have never been adept at understanding the value of Tesla's presentations. That's one of the reasons we've been able to accumulate cheap shares over the years.

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Robocop
57 | Link ➤

29 Nov 20:07
Has this been posted yet?

The Only Electric Car Stock Worth Buying | The Motley Fool

Some gems:

"Yes, Tesla does more than make cars. And yes, there's a cult following and intense loyalty surrounding the brand. But ultimately, Tesla is much more an automaker than a tech company. It's valued like ...
ZeApelido
37 | Link ➤

29 Nov 14:35
I never understood how kids could spend so much time watching other people play video games online. What losers.

I just spent 15 minutes watching a video of a FSD beta car driving itself.
Krugerrand
37 | Link ➤

29 Nov 12:46
A long, long time ago
In a far, far away galaxy
Apple was going to buy Tesla
Then everyone came to their senses
And stopped mentioning it

I miss those days
Krugerrand
20 | Link ➤

29 Nov 12:57
Bloody poetry. Can nobody follow any of the unwritten curtesies of this thread anymore? Though shall not mention Apple and Tesla in the same sentence, though shall not write poetry, etc., etc., Never mind the fact, there is no question. We hold until the sky falls and the shares have to be pried fro...
Nocturnal
19 | Link ➤

29 Nov 19:04
First principles. Thanks to climate change those mountains will be islands soon.
Robocop
18 | Link ➤

29 Nov 23:27
When you've sold every other stock, run out of money, your wallet is empty, and are out of margin.
Rotte
18 | Link ➤

29 Nov 14:31
Please sell!
Unpilot
16 | Link ➤

29 Nov 13:32
Some of us don't want an invite....but we are coming anyway
ZeApelido
15 | Link ➤

29 Nov 21:58
This massive container showed up. Apparently my wife has an "inspection" tomorrow.

I think we're definitely gonna clean out $600 early tomorrow.
JustMe
15 | Link ➤

29 Nov 19:12
You’ve clearly missed some critical posts!

I recommend reading the past 1,500 pages or so to catch back up.

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JBRR
67 | Link ➤

29 Nov 11:01
Tesla’s S&P 500 Debut Is Set to Put $100 Billion in Trades in Motion

"Asset managers and trading desks across Wall Street have held virtual summits to debate the matter. The vote from many appears to be for the two-day option, partly because of Tesla's size, along with the potential for elevated vo...
Robocop
60 | Link ➤

29 Nov 20:07
Has this been posted yet?

The Only Electric Car Stock Worth Buying | The Motley Fool

Some gems:

"Yes, Tesla does more than make cars. And yes, there's a cult following and intense loyalty surrounding the brand. But ultimately, Tesla is much more an automaker than a tech company. It's valued like ...
BlackS
51 | Link ➤

29 Nov 16:34
Thanks to $TSLA! Definitely a once in a lifetime opportunity and i am glad we are all here for the ride! Whatever happens to $TSLA in short term does not affect my decision to sell...i am still constantly adding and will continue to add until i see any fundamental changes that change my mind.
ggr
48 | Link ➤

29 Nov 23:50
I'm fed up. People completely ignore moderator instructions to stop posting about ... anything... colonoscopies, child seats, politics, island vs. mountain, Coronavirus, sex, sexism, attacks on other members, whatever. Then there are so many different off-topic subjects that there is no hope of mana...
Krugerrand
42 | Link ➤

29 Nov 12:46
A long, long time ago
In a far, far away galaxy
Apple was going to buy Tesla
Then everyone came to their senses
And stopped mentioning it

I miss those days
ZeApelido
40 | Link ➤

29 Nov 14:35
I never understood how kids could spend so much time watching other people play video games online. What losers.

I just spent 15 minutes watching a video of a FSD beta car driving itself.
Krugerrand
40 | Link ➤

29 Nov 12:57
Bloody poetry. Can nobody follow any of the unwritten curtesies of this thread anymore? Though shall not mention Apple and Tesla in the same sentence, though shall not write poetry, etc., etc., Never mind the fact, there is no question. We hold until the sky falls and the shares have to be pried fro...
TheTalkingMule
38 | Link ➤

29 Nov 16:48
I don't see how spreading this inclusion over six months would dramatically lower the peak SP. Buying would continue in the same volumes, shareholders would likely be even LESS inclined to sell, and all sorts of +macro evens could pile on. The spike might be shaved by 10-20%, but I bet avg purchase ...
AudubonB
37 | Link ➤

29 Nov 6:20
~~~And of those two pages, ONCE AGAIN most had little to do with TSLA/Tesla. Go start your own AAPL/Apple thread if you can’t keep to Tesla. There likely aren’t any such, and the internet is quite drivel-starved.~~~
AudubonB
36 | Link ➤

29 Nov 19:21
~~~~A very strong recommendation - plea, even - from your Moderator:

PLEASE convert ALL “Price Target” or other such prognostications regarding TSLA’s future price levels to split-adjusted numbers. At the very, very least, indicate whether each number to which you refer is pre- or post-split.

If y...
Silentkeravelt
36 | Link ➤

29 Nov 11:19
Thanks for that, last five minutes is the main part to listen to. Basically expects price to keep rising until mid-January, current PT of $775

He seems to have a slightly better record than our good friend Gordon ;-)
Tes La Ferrari
30 | Link ➤

29 Nov 21:43
Dedicated to all the TSLA HODL'rs, & FUD fighters:

“Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's ...
PeterJA
30 | Link ➤

29 Nov 18:24
Here's an argument that the runup will NOT be followed by a big pullback, regardless of whether inclusion is spread out:

Two groups of funds are being forced to buy TSLA: index funds and benchmarked funds. The indexers have to finish buying by a certain date and don't care much what price they pay....
Unpilot
30 | Link ➤

29 Nov 15:15
It seems if that was a concern they should have added ASAP as anyone with 2 working neurons could see what direction Tesla was going.

I have little sympathy for Wall street funds getting run over by a company many have actively tried to squish.
FrankSG
30 | Link ➤

29 Nov 0:50
1. I think that's very unlikely. For the most part, a higher stock price is better for a company than a lower one. A more stable stock price is also preferred in most cases, but it's not like Tesla can make TSLA less volatile.

2. An equilibrium will be reached one way or another, be it at $600, $80...
StealthP3D
29 | Link ➤

29 Nov 7:15
It's not just fund managers that take time to absorb information and change their mind about something and act on it - humans, in general, don't naturally work like this. Most humans are not accustomed to absorbing complex information and immediately acting on it with real dollars. It takes time to ...
Lycanthrope
28 | Link ➤

29 Nov 21:40
I don't think S&P will spread $TSLA inclusion farther, they've already announced it will be fully in the index by 21st December, they gave no options past that, it was all in on 21st, or spread between 14th and 21st, anything else would be inviting legal action by those that lost money in the last f...
PeterJA
26 | Link ➤

29 Nov 6:16
Getting back to TSLA…

To HODL or not to HODL: that is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the wallet to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous media
Shrieking overvalued bubble!
Or to sell, perchance to buy back lower.
Ay, there’s the rub.
For in that sale what lost gains may come
When we have...
Nocturnal
26 | Link ➤

29 Nov 1:46
Late night musing that I’ll blame on the bourbon (unless it’s a good musing). Consider this:

Robotaxi fleets will need access to parking lots with charging and repair/service infrastructure. These locations need to have great access to highways near major population centers, but a little out to min...
Jackl1956
25 | Link ➤

29 Nov 20:13
A heartfelt thank you, to all the good folks at Tesla Motors and the TMC...
Robocop
25 | Link ➤

29 Nov 17:22
Re: The addition of TSLA in a tranche during Q1 2021:

S&P specifically said "Due to the large size of the addition, S&P Dow Jones Indices is seeking feedback through a consultation to the investment community to determine if Tesla should be added all at once on the rebalance effective date or in tw...
Nocturnal
24 | Link ➤

29 Nov 19:04
First principles. Thanks to climate change those mountains will be islands soon.
OrthoSurg
24 | Link ➤

29 Nov 13:53
Timing the market is really hard.
I tried 4 times and failed 3 times.
Lost couple hundred grands of potential profit in the process and paid hundred grands of unnecessary taxes.
Might have helped Canadian society in general during covid by funding the CERB. That’s what I like to tell myself when I g...
Lycanthrope
23 | Link ➤

29 Nov 10:07
Interesting, not a single new Model S or X in inventory, nothing "in transit", as far as I can see. Delivery date for custom-build in EU is March, in the US 3-5 weeks. I only see 4 CPO cars.

I can only come to two rational conclusions:
- current manufacturing capacity sold-out on existing orders, o...
Artful Dodger
21 | Link ➤

29 Nov 23:15
Futures quotes are now alive in NYC. All 3 major indices are +UP.

Cheers!

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BigPeePee
5 | Link ➤

29 Nov 3:23
Apple did not design the node. TSMC did.

I think Apple fanatics are giving way too much credit to Apple. The M1's power comes almost entirely from TSMC's 5nm process, not the "design" of the chip. Chip design doesn't really have much impact on computing performance barring any kind of bottleneck (S...
Bet TSLA
4 | Link ➤

29 Nov 3:54
Note the parallel with Tesla FUD. You have it exactly backwards because you believe the lies you read rather than having any first hand knowledge. Apple equipment is regularly used for far longer than Android phones or Windows computers because it stays compatible and functional. iPhones get regular...
CLK350
3 | Link ➤

29 Nov 14:46
Somewhat OT, but since it may affect how people invest in TSLA my 2 cents here. The Apple/ Windows aka Microsoft comparison is not the relevant issue to look at. And the Apple / Tesla comparison is tenuous at best. Elon would probably dismiss it jokingly as he only can.

TLDR: invest in other than A...
BigPeePee
3 | Link ➤

29 Nov 5:55
Except for Kirin 9000, all the others are not using the 5nm process. Kirin 9000 is extremely close to the A14, just edging the latter by 11% in antutu. The differences in performance mainly comes from different goals. Apple wants wide cores while Android manufacturers want smaller cores to take adva...
Bet TSLA
2 | Link ➤

29 Nov 8:08
Yeah, that's what all the people spreading FUD about Tesla always say. If you actually believed that you wouldn't be invested in Tesla. As much as possible about Teslas is custom built. As inexpensive as possible, but still expensive.
Bet TSLA
2 | Link ➤

29 Nov 8:13
Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't understand anything about what the TSLAQ folks write either. Same thing, different target.
Speedr117
2 | Link ➤

29 Nov 12:00
If they do spread it out over 2 quarters (unprecedented in S&P history, BTW), then there should be less of a squeeze. This would probably be better for longer term investors since it would be a much slower, more sustained rise in the stock, versus a vertical increase, high volatility, and a potentia...
Beltsbear
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29 Nov 3:05
Apple has a huge advantage by regularly dropping old tech and somehow forcing everyone into the new tech. A 2020 Windows computer can be cajoled into running DOS Wordperfect. That sounds great for compatibility but it has a pricetag in CPU die space and throughput. Code for Windows looks like crap. ...
 
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Daily Roundup: 30 November
Posts from 30 Nov 00:08 GMT to 30 Nov 22:29 GMT
Votes as of 30 Nov 22:29 GMT


Trying out same-day posting. My idea is to post in the afternoon and then do an update to the same post later on when more votes/posts arrive for the day.

Top 25 Informative + Helpful

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Curt Renz
55 | Link ➤

30 Nov 5:07
Reuters - Sunday evening: China grants Tesla green light to start selling Shanghai-made Model Y SUV
Cherry Wine
38 | Link ➤

30 Nov 20:42
VW is apparently considering firing Diess.

https://twitter.com/alex_avoigt/status/1333480966472523785?s=20
avoigt
31 | Link ➤

30 Nov 11:38
Newest Top 10 BEV ranking

Source: EV sales
Mo City
28 | Link ➤

30 Nov 5:25
@FrankSG has a theory on the mystery TSLA investor in Q3: Softbank.

https://twitter.com/FrankPeelen/status/1333257862437511168
JBRR
26 | Link ➤

30 Nov 13:04
*GM SIGNS MOU WITH NIKOLA TO SUPPLY HYDROTEC FUEL CELL SYSTEMS

Man - GM had their chance to get away from this. They are dead.
MikeAtkinson
25 | Link ➤

30 Nov 10:37
FSD 2020.44.15.4 beta 6 is out, only a few days after beta 5, looks smoother and more confident. IMO probably will be rolled out to more beta testers in the coming days.
Curt Renz
23 | Link ➤

30 Nov 17:38
Benzinga - half hour ago: CFRA Raises Tesla Price Target To $650, Sees Momentum Continuing

Excerpt:

On Monday, CFRA analyst Garrett Nelson maintained a Strong Buy rating on Telsa and raised the stock's price target from $550 to $650.
Todd Burch
23 | Link ➤

30 Nov 11:26
Just watched all the currently available FSD Beta 6 videos.

Based on those videos and the reactions of the testers, there are more significant and noticeable improvements in this version.

An absolutely mind-blowing pace of improvements—and this during a holiday week. (Do Karpathy and team work on ...
Artful Dodger
23 | Link ➤

30 Nov 4:56
$700 for Fri Close would be a +3.65% per day compound avg SP increase over the next 5 days.

The past 3.5 days averaged +5.13% (past week exc'd ThksG Hol).

And it's been +4.88% over the 8 days since the S&P Addition announcement.

So even $700 on Friday represents a decelerating trend. That's not h...
FrankSG
21 | Link ➤

30 Nov 9:03
The mystery is that, looking at 13F data, a truckload of shares 'went missing' during Q3. After accounting for the split and the reduction in short interest, about 60M shares that were sold by institutional investors did not end up in the hands of new institutional investors, or at least not ones th...
asburgers
20 | Link ➤

30 Nov 15:48
Hindenburg released a KNDI takedown this morning. Kandi: How This China-Based NASDAQ-Listed Company Used Fake Sales, EV Hype to Nab $160 Million From U.S. Investors
Some negativity in the EV space.
Todesbuckler
20 | Link ➤

30 Nov 8:41
Global EV Sales for October are posted on EV Salesblog:

Model Ranking:

Brands Ranking:
Curt Renz
19 | Link ➤

30 Nov 17:50
Benzinga - 12 minutes ago: 10 Consumer Discretionary Stocks With Unusual Options Alerts In Today's Session

Excerpt:

For TSLA (NASDAQ:TSLA), we notice a call option sweep that happens to be bullish, expiring in 4 day(s) on December 4, 2020. A trader bought 200 contract(s) at a $700.00 strike. This ...
Blue horseshoe
18 | Link ➤

30 Nov 17:27
Sizzle index 1.747 indicates current volume of option trading is almost 75% higher than average daily volume. This is consistent with what I've seen every morning since sp500 inclusion news hit.

P/C ratio is 0.522 meaning open interest in puts versus calls is call heavy. Nearly 2 calls are purchas...
JBRR
16 | Link ➤

30 Nov 22:20
*S&P TO ANNOUNCE WHICH CO. TESLA WILL REPLACE ON DEC 11
Curt Renz
16 | Link ➤

30 Nov 19:38
Benzinga - half hour ago: Tesla Shares Quiet; Hearing S&P Decision Coming At 5:15 p.m. EST On Whether All Shares Will Be Included On Dec. 21 Or If It Will Happen Over Two Days
petit_bateau
16 | Link ➤

30 Nov 14:32
Using the Oct-2020 YTD numbers from EV sales : EV Sales: Global Top 20 October 2020 and adding in a few fairly crude kWh and $$ metrics I get these stats for Tesla's overall position vs the competition in the BEV+PHEV arena. The big unknown is what is hidden in the 56% of 'other' but I reckon it is ...
JBRR
14 | Link ➤

30 Nov 22:18
*S&P WILL ADD TESLA TO S&P 500 PRIOR TO OPEN DEC. 21
Chenkers
14 | Link ➤

30 Nov 15:20
The stock price is getting pushed back down but options prices are holding up well due to a jump in IV. I'm seeing IV up to 94% for Dec18 options on IB. IV30 is getting up towards 85-90%, a nice climb from 55% a couple of weeks ago and still a way to go.
Artful Dodger
13 | Link ➤

30 Nov 7:10
Tesla trading at €490.00 early in the session at Tradegate Berlin (TLO) (the equivalent of $586.26)

V. light volume of 3.7K shares only 5 min after Open.

Cheers!
JBRR
11 | Link ➤

30 Nov 19:40
UPDATE: S&P's decision on Tesla slated for after the close
(MarketWatch) -- by Claudia Assis
Addition in tranches thought to be more likely
S&P Dow Jones Indices will reveal how it will add Tesla Inc. to its benchmark S&P 500 index after the stock market closes on Monday.
Whether Tesla (TSLA) will b...
FrankSG
11 | Link ➤

30 Nov 11:37
Done:

Tesla's S&P 500 Inclusion Part 2: Predicting the transformation of the TSLA float
ZeApelido
10 | Link ➤

30 Nov 19:41
Short interest keeps going down

https://twitter.com/ihors3/status/1333490594635767811
Sudre
10 | Link ➤

30 Nov 19:04
This dip makes for a good time for THEM to filling a void of options so they can make more money on premiums and fees.
I think they fully expects this to rise back up for the 600 battle this week. They already started back filling 600 with Puts last week so I think they expect that breached.
JBRR
9 | Link ➤

30 Nov 22:18
*S&P TO ADD TESLA AT FULL FLOAT-ADJ MKT CAPITALIZATION WEIGHT

Top 5 Authors - Informative + Helpful


Top 25 Loved + Liked

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FrankSG
91 | Link ➤

30 Nov 11:37
Done:

Tesla's S&P 500 Inclusion Part 2: Predicting the transformation of the TSLA float
brianhn1
57 | Link ➤

30 Nov 16:37
Tesla Tequila has arrived in FL! Will have to crack it open tonight (or right now?).

Going to be a great week for TSLA!
Lycanthrope
56 | Link ➤

30 Nov 9:04
Wasn't "moderators", it was one moderator. Wasn't a dispute either, she was just made to feel very unwanted, so left. There was a window of opportunity for her to return, along with Fact Checking, but that has passed. I tried.

OK, I see the cyclical discussion about content on this forum... my thou...
Todd Burch
39 | Link ➤

30 Nov 11:26
Just watched all the currently available FSD Beta 6 videos.

Based on those videos and the reactions of the testers, there are more significant and noticeable improvements in this version.

An absolutely mind-blowing pace of improvements—and this during a holiday week. (Do Karpathy and team work on ...
Jackl1956
36 | Link ➤

30 Nov 18:16
The longer you drive an internal combustion engine, the more it’s rings, valves, gaskets,and mechanical components wear. The more it pollutes.

The longer you drive an electric vehicle, more and more renewable energy is added to the grid. Electric vehicles become cleaner and cleaner.

In terms of ba...
UnknownSoldier
32 | Link ➤

30 Nov 1:40
I'm going to be blunt here.

You're not being paid to do this, so don't get frustrated or take it too seriously. All the actual trolls who posted with malicious intent are long gone after the stock's run this year, so we're pretty much all here because we're investors and support the company and it'...
UncaNed
31 | Link ➤

30 Nov 0:54
You may be fed up, but your efforts are very, very much appreciated @ggr . I don't know the answer short of refining our personal Ignored lists (Mine has over 40 now, who make this forum totally unusable had I left them in), I've suggested a rating system, Off Topic vote arrangement or something, an...
Pezpunk
30 | Link ➤

30 Nov 13:49
same. i dont mind OT posts unless it's extreme and during market hours. i DO mind back and forth arguments that only the two posters involved care about.
bkp_duke
29 | Link ➤

30 Nov 13:06
Honestly, GM has made enough @#$%tty decisions in the past 2 decades that they deserve to die. I hope and pray that they do not get a loan, no bail-out, etc. and just die. They need to be replaced with a healthy competitor that has some vision for the future.
bkp_duke
28 | Link ➤

30 Nov 20:43
If VW does this, they are as stupid as GM and deserve their fate.
Curt Renz
28 | Link ➤

30 Nov 5:07
Reuters - Sunday evening: China grants Tesla green light to start selling Shanghai-made Model Y SUV
Unpilot
26 | Link ➤

30 Nov 12:27
Frankly is obvious you put a ton of work into that.

Thank You!
steve3
23 | Link ➤

30 Nov 13:23
“Because I'll be starting an MBA in January at INSEAD, I doubt I will have the time to research Tesla and TSLA as much as I have over the past ~24 months, so I don't think I'll write much next year, but perhaps I'll be able to publish a few small posts here and there.”

Greatly appreciate your shari...
Robocop
23 | Link ➤

30 Nov 12:42
Reminder that on page 1 of this thread (way way back) it was announced: "This year, we are not going to try to split discussions between a "Market Action" and a "General" thread, as years of experience has shown all are too enthusiastic about putting their opinions and observations in a fairly rando...
JustMe
23 | Link ➤

30 Nov 4:31
She left after a dispute with moderators over “off-topic” posts. Not banned. Folks have tried to coax her back to no avail.

the signal/noise does get rather low at times and I sympathize with the mods’ plight. However - the knowledge and insight I’ve gleaned from these pages has been enriching in ...
sroh
22 | Link ➤

30 Nov 17:46
Wow, just wow.
Silent Ludicrosy
22 | Link ➤

30 Nov 0:43
How about an “off topic” voting button? And an option to auto hide posts with a certain number or ratio of “off topic” votes?
Artful Dodger
21 | Link ➤

30 Nov 12:28
Those 7 AM Cowboys just took out Friday's Intraday High in the Pre-Market: (07:24 ET)

Today's High $599.33 +$13.57 +2.32%
EDIT $601.72
Cheers!
SteveG3
20 | Link ➤

30 Nov 1:49
at $720, or $3600 pre-split would be 25% of my assets. a bit over 35% at the moment.

I am looking at some alternatives. They don’t need to be homeruns, but there’s a couple I think could be. Would require pre-IPO access.

Investment isn’t all about maximizing returns for me at this point. Not to be...
Artful Dodger
19 | Link ➤

30 Nov 15:46
Re-read the S&P announcement. The addition date WILL be Mon, Dec 21, 2020 no wiggle room at all.

The only issue is the committee asking for advice from the investment community as to whether it will be done in 2 tranches (Dec 14+21) or a single tranche on Dec 21. There was also a question as to whe...
Mike Smith
19 | Link ➤

30 Nov 13:16
That's $3000 pre split. This day last year it was $330.
Chunky Jr.
18 | Link ➤

30 Nov 16:46
I decided to virtually cash in ~1/20 of a share of TSLA and support TMC. Thank you all for the valuable and entertaining content.
Artful Dodger
18 | Link ➤

30 Nov 11:56
Daamm... that right there is one good driver (AI)

"Tesla fsd beta 2020.44.15.4 first drive. Super smooth." | Tesla Owners Silicon Valley (4 hrs ago)

All in good time, first things first. We've got the MiC Model Y rollout, which is also yet to hit the Financial Press. It'll come, just HODL...

Ch...
jhm
17 | Link ➤

30 Nov 17:10
I love this analysis. We used to some of this in the EV Market Share thread. Battery supply is likely the most difficult scale up problem for EV makers. So with Tesla at 35% share of EV GWh, this is a huge lead for Tesla.

Battery supply is also key, I think, to being able to command share of reven...
ZachF
14 | Link ➤

30 Nov 13:43
TBH, It's amazing it's it's still worth more than $0

Top 5 Authors - Loved + Liked


Top 10 Funny

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ZeApelido
39 | Link ➤

30 Nov 20:49
I heard there's a great replacement waiting.
Prunesquallor
23 | Link ➤

30 Nov 22:06
3 potential scenarios for Tesla’s stock — none of them are good

A little MarketWatch FUD for your evening viewing pleasure:
JustMe
21 | Link ➤

30 Nov 16:03
According to the DJ news wire, Nikola is canceling the Badger and the stock is off 24%

Who could have predicted that!
Chocochip
20 | Link ➤

30 Nov 17:26
Interesting thread on auto corporate cover-up here:
https://twitter.com/damiankahya/status/1333396681476497408?s=21
Unpilot
19 | Link ➤

30 Nov 16:07
I stayed home for this!...O wait I'm retired so I stay home most day's...carry on.
Mo City
17 | Link ➤

30 Nov 16:21
My IRA went from +$260K to -$300K back to ~even in what seemed like 30 mins.

I feel sore.
sroh
16 | Link ➤

30 Nov 21:26
A wild guess on my part, but I bet someone here might mention it.
BrownOuttaSpec
14 | Link ➤

30 Nov 15:20
"Cyber Monday" Sale on TSLA today only!
(deal ends 11/30/2020)
StealthP3D
11 | Link ➤

30 Nov 17:38
Come on now, I'm not sure it's fair to ignore the in-cab soda fountain! Using the waste water from hydrogen fuel cells to make soda pop is pure genius.

Why can't Tesla innovate on this level? Is this why we can't have nice things?

/s
JBRR
11 | Link ➤

30 Nov 13:04
*GM SIGNS MOU WITH NIKOLA TO SUPPLY HYDROTEC FUEL CELL SYSTEMS

Man - GM had their chance to get away from this. They are dead.

Top 5 Authors - Funny


Top 25 Total Positive Votes

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FrankSG
102 | Link ➤

30 Nov 11:37
Done:

Tesla's S&P 500 Inclusion Part 2: Predicting the transformation of the TSLA float
Curt Renz
83 | Link ➤

30 Nov 5:07
Reuters - Sunday evening: China grants Tesla green light to start selling Shanghai-made Model Y SUV
Todd Burch
62 | Link ➤

30 Nov 11:26
Just watched all the currently available FSD Beta 6 videos.

Based on those videos and the reactions of the testers, there are more significant and noticeable improvements in this version.

An absolutely mind-blowing pace of improvements—and this during a holiday week. (Do Karpathy and team work on ...
Lycanthrope
60 | Link ➤

30 Nov 9:04
Wasn't "moderators", it was one moderator. Wasn't a dispute either, she was just made to feel very unwanted, so left. There was a window of opportunity for her to return, along with Fact Checking, but that has passed. I tried.

OK, I see the cyclical discussion about content on this forum... my thou...
brianhn1
59 | Link ➤

30 Nov 16:37
Tesla Tequila has arrived in FL! Will have to crack it open tonight (or right now?).

Going to be a great week for TSLA!
JBRR
47 | Link ➤

30 Nov 13:04
*GM SIGNS MOU WITH NIKOLA TO SUPPLY HYDROTEC FUEL CELL SYSTEMS

Man - GM had their chance to get away from this. They are dead.
ZeApelido
42 | Link ➤

30 Nov 20:49
I heard there's a great replacement waiting.
Jackl1956
41 | Link ➤

30 Nov 18:16
The longer you drive an internal combustion engine, the more it’s rings, valves, gaskets,and mechanical components wear. The more it pollutes.

The longer you drive an electric vehicle, more and more renewable energy is added to the grid. Electric vehicles become cleaner and cleaner.

In terms of ba...
avoigt
41 | Link ➤

30 Nov 11:38
Newest Top 10 BEV ranking

Source: EV sales
Cherry Wine
40 | Link ➤

30 Nov 20:42
VW is apparently considering firing Diess.

https://twitter.com/alex_avoigt/status/1333480966472523785?s=20
UncaNed
34 | Link ➤

30 Nov 0:54
You may be fed up, but your efforts are very, very much appreciated @ggr . I don't know the answer short of refining our personal Ignored lists (Mine has over 40 now, who make this forum totally unusable had I left them in), I've suggested a rating system, Off Topic vote arrangement or something, an...
Pezpunk
33 | Link ➤

30 Nov 13:49
same. i dont mind OT posts unless it's extreme and during market hours. i DO mind back and forth arguments that only the two posters involved care about.
MikeAtkinson
33 | Link ➤

30 Nov 10:37
FSD 2020.44.15.4 beta 6 is out, only a few days after beta 5, looks smoother and more confident. IMO probably will be rolled out to more beta testers in the coming days.
Artful Dodger
33 | Link ➤

30 Nov 4:56
$700 for Fri Close would be a +3.65% per day compound avg SP increase over the next 5 days.

The past 3.5 days averaged +5.13% (past week exc'd ThksG Hol).

And it's been +4.88% over the 8 days since the S&P Addition announcement.

So even $700 on Friday represents a decelerating trend. That's not h...
UnknownSoldier
33 | Link ➤

30 Nov 1:40
I'm going to be blunt here.

You're not being paid to do this, so don't get frustrated or take it too seriously. All the actual trolls who posted with malicious intent are long gone after the stock's run this year, so we're pretty much all here because we're investors and support the company and it'...
Mo City
32 | Link ➤

30 Nov 5:25
@FrankSG has a theory on the mystery TSLA investor in Q3: Softbank.

https://twitter.com/FrankPeelen/status/1333257862437511168
bkp_duke
30 | Link ➤

30 Nov 13:06
Honestly, GM has made enough @#$%tty decisions in the past 2 decades that they deserve to die. I hope and pray that they do not get a loan, no bail-out, etc. and just die. They need to be replaced with a healthy competitor that has some vision for the future.
bkp_duke
28 | Link ➤

30 Nov 20:43
If VW does this, they are as stupid as GM and deserve their fate.
Chocochip
27 | Link ➤

30 Nov 17:26
Interesting thread on auto corporate cover-up here:
https://twitter.com/damiankahya/status/1333396681476497408?s=21
Curt Renz
27 | Link ➤

30 Nov 17:38
Benzinga - half hour ago: CFRA Raises Tesla Price Target To $650, Sees Momentum Continuing

Excerpt:

On Monday, CFRA analyst Garrett Nelson maintained a Strong Buy rating on Telsa and raised the stock's price target from $550 to $650.
Unpilot
27 | Link ➤

30 Nov 12:27
Frankly is obvious you put a ton of work into that.

Thank You!
Artful Dodger
26 | Link ➤

30 Nov 15:46
Re-read the S&P announcement. The addition date WILL be Mon, Dec 21, 2020 no wiggle room at all.

The only issue is the committee asking for advice from the investment community as to whether it will be done in 2 tranches (Dec 14+21) or a single tranche on Dec 21. There was also a question as to whe...
JustMe
26 | Link ➤

30 Nov 4:31
She left after a dispute with moderators over “off-topic” posts. Not banned. Folks have tried to coax her back to no avail.

the signal/noise does get rather low at times and I sympathize with the mods’ plight. However - the knowledge and insight I’ve gleaned from these pages has been enriching in ...
Todesbuckler
26 | Link ➤

30 Nov 8:41
Global EV Sales for October are posted on EV Salesblog:

Model Ranking:

Brands Ranking:
FrankSG
25 | Link ➤

30 Nov 9:03
The mystery is that, looking at 13F data, a truckload of shares 'went missing' during Q3. After accounting for the split and the reduction in short interest, about 60M shares that were sold by institutional investors did not end up in the hands of new institutional investors, or at least not ones th...

Top 5 Authors - Total Positive Votes


Top 8 Disagree

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JRP3
10 | Link ➤

30 Nov 3:35
Exactly. This is a general discussion thread no matter how hard some people try to pretend otherwise. When actual TSLA influencing events are taking place that's where discussion will focus, when not it will wander elsewhere. Tons of "off topic" banter happens in this thread all the time and is igno...
azaz
8 | Link ➤

30 Nov 21:00
sold half my calls because price action at the end looked like someone knows that inclusion might be split between quarters
Tim S
6 | Link ➤

30 Nov 2:28
I say keep deleting the OT posts, ignore the complaints from members whose posts were deleted, and especially delete the anti-mod diatribes. Those are the most annoying posts and should be considered "attacks on other members".
jkirkwood001
5 | Link ➤

30 Nov 13:14
Thanks for this, everyone, I enjoy this forum a lot.

Hi @AudubonB and other mods, could we perhaps use a data driven approach. Those with stats of high rates of "disagree" should be warned, and eventually banned? I know this also tilts against those with legitimately controversial ideas, so is ther...
SteveG3
3 | Link ➤

30 Nov 21:32
I don’t think the following is the most likely scenario, but, it is something the S&P might be able to do to reverse some of this run up with far lower risk of lawsuits and less of a reputational hit than changing to two quarters...

Announce that due to the volume of feedback on this decision, whic...
Singuy
2 | Link ➤

30 Nov 21:07
I think people are delusional if they think Tsla will not drop after this entire fiasco considering just the thought that the squeeze may not be as large as expected has already caused a drop.

Like I said, zero allegiance to Tesla. They are just here for the gambling money.
UnknownSoldier
2 | Link ➤

30 Nov 1:40
I'm going to be blunt here.

You're not being paid to do this, so don't get frustrated or take it too seriously. All the actual trolls who posted with malicious intent are long gone after the stock's run this year, so we're pretty much all here because we're investors and support the company and it'...
lafrisbee
2 | Link ➤

30 Nov 2:17
Damn it's been so sloooow this 2 and a half day week end...come on. Open already....someone in Japan or Germany or somewhere tell us some stock price...hell just make one up!

Sorta OT...
But if you think we feel funny now, wait till Xmas. Christmas Day will be on a Friday. The stock market will be ...
 
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Daily Roundup: 1 December
Posts from 1 Dec 00:02 GMT to 1 Dec 21:47 GMT
Votes as of 1 Dec 21:48 GMT


Still working on a process to help me be more consistent with this and also provide updates during the 12 hours after initial posting.

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Rarity
54 | Link ➤

1 Dec 3:58
Bloomberg is reporting that the Tripp lawsuit has settled. He will pay $400k and admit wrongdoing.

Ex-Tesla Factory Worker to Pay $400,000 to End Feud With Musk

Something tells me that this won't be the end of the story. Either he won't pay and we will be back in court, or he will turn on the peop...
anthonyj
39 | Link ➤

1 Dec 17:35
I saw this around 7am this morning but I thought it was fake so I didn’t post it. Now there’s an article on Electrek
Curt Renz
34 | Link ➤

1 Dec 5:08
There has not been an automaker in the Dow Jones Industrial Average since the General Motors bankruptcy in 2009. Now that the committee will be putting Tesla in the S&P 500, I suspect the next consideration will be for the DJIA. However, since the DJIA is share price weighted, I assume a requirement...
StealthP3D
30 | Link ➤

1 Dec 5:48
Tesla keeps advancing automotive technology by leveraging their existing technological lead:

At first glance I thought, "Ho-hum, of course, no big deal". But as I thought about the implications I realized how huge it was for Tesla.

What does it mean that the Cybertruck's air suspension will be "li...
Artful Dodger
27 | Link ➤

1 Dec 1:08
After-action Report: Mon, Nov 30, 2020: (Full Day's Trading)

Headline: "Last-Ditch Battle for the Future; TSLA Carries the Day"

"S&P DJI will add Tesla to S&P 500 at its full float-adjusted market capitalization weight on Mon, Dec 21, 2020." (Full News Release)

Traded: $36,716,929,529.27 ($36.72B...
Navin
25 | Link ➤

1 Dec 14:06
Time to turn on the lights...

The Dark Money Secretly Bankrolling Activist Short-Sellers — and the Insiders Trying to Expose It
CorneliusXX
22 | Link ➤

1 Dec 9:43
From today's Reuters article regarding cell production increases:
Exclusive: LG Chem to double China battery capacity to meet Tesla demand - sources

There is the following paragraph:
Fremont is now receiving cells from both GF1 and from overseas. Meaning the GF1 bottleneck is no longer a hard limit...
Curt Renz
22 | Link ➤

1 Dec 0:27
WSJ - half hour ago: Tesla to Enter S&P 500 at Full Weight in December

Excerpt:

Given Tesla's size, there have been concerns that adding it to the benchmark would stoke volatility in the shares—already notoriously turbulent—as well as the broader market, several investors said.

The index giant ha...
H Mak
21 | Link ➤

1 Dec 13:44
Coming up later today 'An evening with Elon Musk - Mission to Mars' as part of the ceremony to present him with the 2020 Axel Springer award. Previous recipients include Jeff Bezos and Tim Berners-Lee.

How to watch live as Elon Musk talks life, business and Mars Tuesday
Tes La Ferrari
20 | Link ➤

1 Dec 9:10
Lucid completes factory construction, aims to ramp up to 400,000 electric cars per year - Electrek

Lucid aims to build 400,000 cars In it’s new factory.
Papafox
19 | Link ➤

1 Dec 19:17
TSLA chart above

QQQ chart above

To my eye, it looks like someone is capping TSLA this afternoon to keep it from running toward 600 with the macros. There could be a market explanation, such as one big seller placing a limit price on sell orders, but this looks like classic capping to my eye. The ...
Artful Dodger
17 | Link ➤

1 Dec 14:30
Here's today's Tech chart from 09:30 EST:

Cheers!
JBRR
16 | Link ➤

1 Dec 21:05
Google Translate

The dispute between VW CEO Herbert Diess and works council chairman Bernd Osterloh has escalated and should be settled on Tuesday in the supervisory board.

Diess calls for an early extension of the contract as a vote of confidence in his line of restructuring. The extension should...
dc_h
16 | Link ➤

1 Dec 15:04
Assuming Q4 is nearly as good as many of us expect, I think a credit rating upgrade could happen. Rating changes are lagging indicators and subject to momentum. Cash flow should be amazing, even with 3 plants being built. Wall Street is being put on notice with S&P inclusion and Q4 should be the fin...
Drumheller
16 | Link ➤

1 Dec 7:42
Roadster referral wins are being added to winners' Tesla accounts.
amolina
15 | Link ➤

1 Dec 14:26
A convenient website to track all of ARKK's move is here. The values are not 100% real time, and takes a few minutes/hours to update but still very useful. ARKK ETF Trades
Artful Dodger
15 | Link ➤

1 Dec 4:30
Good point. Many noobs may not actually know that:

"S&P Dow Jones Indices LLC (/daʊ/) is a joint venture between S&P Global, the CME Group, and News Corp that was announced in 2011 and later launched in 2012. It produces, maintains, licenses, and markets stock market indices as benchmarks and as th...
Mo City
14 | Link ➤

1 Dec 6:37
This is old news, sort of.

Exclusive: LG Chem to double China battery capacity to meet Tesla demand - sources
Artful Dodger
13 | Link ➤

1 Dec 13:07
TSLA 08:00 A.M. Real-time chart:

Pre-Market Vol by 8 a.m. was 692K shares (v.respectable).

08:00 A.M. SP: $596.10 +$28.50 +4.92%

Cheers!
StealthP3D
13 | Link ➤

1 Dec 6:15
S&P probably won't increase the credit rating until after inclusion is complete.

Now that you mention it, that was probably one of the catalysts for S&P realizing they should include TSLA in the Index (before they raised their rating). So I expect an increase not too long after the dust settles fr...
callmesam
12 | Link ➤

1 Dec 17:39
I know Alex and he has some criticisms of Tesla's approach to both Autopilot and Autonomy.

Niedermeier is a flack for Waymo and a bunch of "autonomy" companies that are 5-10 years behind Tesla. I met and talked to him at a party in January 2018 CES a few days after taking delivery of my first Mode...
bhtooefr
12 | Link ➤

1 Dec 12:48
...worth noting that that feature (using computer vision to predict suspension demands) is actually not new, Mercedes-Benz had it in 2013:

However, I wouldn't be surprised if the FSD computer being used for active suspension control would be better optimized.
jw934
12 | Link ➤

1 Dec 2:32
@Joshuatrader1 keeps a close tab on ARK Invest Tesla holdings. https://twitter.com/Joshuatrader1/status/1333596428527149062

Here is his latest update including Oct and Nov numbers.
StealthP3D
11 | Link ➤

1 Dec 15:33
The overall market is very concerning to me right now.

Asset prices have been inflated by too much money chasing too few investments. The market is ripe for a big correction that might extend beyond a week or two. I imagine traders are worried that Tesla might not hold up until inclusion. I don't t...
kenmccann
10 | Link ➤

1 Dec 11:57
Remember martin tripp?

Factory Worker to Pay $400,000 to End Feud With Musk
By
Robert Burnson
November 30, 2020, 9:50 PM EST


Martin Tripp admits in settlement to trade-secret violations

Tripp had told news media of Gigafactory production delays
In this article
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Top 25 Loved + Liked

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Unpilot
83 | Link ➤

1 Dec 1:59
Great day all..My son came to visit for Thanksgiving...next car is going to be a Y for my Daughter!
AudubonB
48 | Link ➤

1 Dec 5:53
Once again, I fired up the Way, Way, Wayback Machine:

On April 27, 2014, Standard & Poor's gave Tesla's credit an unsolicited junk bond rating of B-, or "highly speculative", with its analysts' comments including the categorization of Tesla as a "niche" automaker, and cast a shadow on the company's...
Sofie
39 | Link ➤

1 Dec 16:16
I still just don’t understand the “day trader” mindset. To me, it’s like those on the highway who weave in and out of lanes trying to get to their destination 4 minutes faster than the person who just stays in their lane, moving with the flow of traffic, patiently waiting through traffic jams/road b...
TheTalkingMule
38 | Link ➤

1 Dec 2:13
Any particular reason you need to jump up this person's ass? There's an ignore feature if you can't handle this poster. Otherwise, all your complaints is OT!
Bet TSLA
36 | Link ➤

1 Dec 5:25
Diess being in charge of anything at Tesla would be ridiculous. How would he have any idea how to function in an environment where his fundamental job is to foster innovation? Anybody with that mindset at VW lost their jobs years ago.

Elon's admiration for Diess isn't the "I'd hire you in a heartbe...
Artful Dodger
36 | Link ➤

1 Dec 5:53
Ideally, Tesla announces 2:1 share dividend before the Market opens on Fri, Dec 11th (short that, boi). Effective date for the share distribution as of Dec 21st.

Cap raise announced before Market opens on Mon, Dec 14 for let's say, $50B (enough for all Tesla's planned Bty CapEx). Share offering clo...
Bet TSLA
36 | Link ➤

1 Dec 3:06
Justice is sweet!
Vandal caught on Sentry Mode knifing Tesla after following it into parking lot [Video] - Update - Drive Tesla Canada
pz1975
34 | Link ➤

1 Dec 3:01
Where did I say it was $100? I said 1% - that is a vastly different amount for different people. Note that I have been buying and accumulating TSLA since 2013.

Also, I don’t care about “admiration”. I find when people accuse someone else of a negative trait, they should usually be looking in the mi...
bkp_duke
33 | Link ➤

1 Dec 14:33
TSLA up 5%

NKLA down 15%

Finally, a little sense in this world.
bkp_duke
30 | Link ➤

1 Dec 14:57
Now this pisses me off to no end. I know, I know, more FUD.

But crying out to big brother Gov when you cannot win on a level playing field . . . and after you have spent billions cheating behind the scenes with the shorts to take Tesla down . . .

I need to take a walk. Too pissed off after readin...
WarpedOne
27 | Link ➤

1 Dec 9:12
How come the above does not read:

"LG Chem to double China battery capacity to meet Hyundai demand"
"LG Chem to double China battery capacity to meet Kia demand"

"LG Chem to double China battery capacity to meet VW demand"
"LG Chem to double China battery capacity to meet Porsche demand"

"LG Chem...
Todd Burch
26 | Link ➤

1 Dec 15:46
Wall Street is just di*king around with the retail investors. They're trying to shake shares loose. Don't be that guy.
StealthP3D
26 | Link ➤

1 Dec 2:37
My observation over the last several months is that he wants VW to fire him and is becoming disillusioned that it's taking them so long. He will likely end up working for Tesla in Berlin. He's a perfect fit.
Todd Burch
23 | Link ➤

1 Dec 18:11
The only problem is neither of them know jack sh*t about deep neural nets.

They disagree with Karpathy & Musk's approach on FSD? Who gives a flying poop? Do I ask my garbage man for medical advice? Do I consult a Wall street investor for gardening advice?
FireMedic
23 | Link ➤

1 Dec 3:55
I enjoy reading all these predictions and conjecture about crazy run ups/dips and bubbles… But I prefer to just focus on the fundamentals. For most of us long term holders I really just don’t think any of this stuff matters.

I’m grateful I have the shares I have, and I know that many here feel the ...
Mo City
23 | Link ➤

1 Dec 3:15
He would be a terrible choice.

I think it is very safe to say the new CEO (whenever one is eventually named) already works at Tesla. Someone proven, who has paid their dues and is steeped in the unique culture there.

Ain't no way they bring in an outsider.
UnknownSoldier
22 | Link ➤

1 Dec 7:54
Imagine Roadster being announced for 2021 release. All the money investors made from TSLA can go back to Tesla in the form of $200,000 sports cars.
sroh
22 | Link ➤

1 Dec 1:42
Agreed. I am one of those scaredy-cat HODL people. As much as I am tempted to try to play the timing game, I know I am but a tadpole in a river of piranhas. I keep convincing myself it just can't be that easy as everyone else would be trying to do the same.

I hope and expect I will be here again i...
StealthP3D
21 | Link ➤

1 Dec 5:48
Tesla keeps advancing automotive technology by leveraging their existing technological lead:

At first glance I thought, "Ho-hum, of course, no big deal". But as I thought about the implications I realized how huge it was for Tesla.

What does it mean that the Cybertruck's air suspension will be "li...
Right_Said_Fred
20 | Link ➤

1 Dec 15:20
Why would anyone be selling right now? Yesterday I can understand, with some uncertainty around the S&P announcement. But today? Are the current sellers afraid that it will take too long for the index funds buying to start - 2 weeks - and the SP will not hold up? Or are we at the mercy of shenigans ...
Jackl1956
19 | Link ➤

1 Dec 7:40
I am looking forward to a massive shift, from fossil fuel investing to sustainable transportation and renewable energy.

Exxon tries to put the worst behind it with $20 billion writedown

It just makes great sense.
anthonyj
17 | Link ➤

1 Dec 17:35
I saw this around 7am this morning but I thought it was fake so I didn’t post it. Now there’s an article on Electrek
bkp_duke
17 | Link ➤

1 Dec 15:23
I don't think it is an education problem (my 0.02). I think there is some behind-the-scenes money being moved around to "incentivize" people to write tripe like this.
Chocochip
17 | Link ➤

1 Dec 0:24
Famous last words!

That said, most of us have some sort of trading strategy (with the notable exception of the HODL people, so please slowly place those pitchforks on the ground!), and key SP levels we watch for. But if occasional swing-trading taught me anything, it's that the market rarely does w...
StealthP3D
16 | Link ➤

1 Dec 17:45
I love the way Elon talks straight all the while his detractors are calling him a hypester!

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Pezpunk
59 | Link ➤

1 Dec 14:18
i went with a Plaid Model S instead. i'm a family man. i need a sober, practical car that does 0-60 in under 2 seconds.
amolina
24 | Link ➤

1 Dec 11:18
Mark Spiegel Finally admitted to his mistake /s
Check this one out Home, Mark b spiegel
Unpilot
23 | Link ➤

1 Dec 12:34
Good morning...now I'm not a numerologist...but I got up at 6am had coffee at 6:16.

The high temp is supposed to be 66 today...rising to 70 as the week goes on.

All in all pretty good signals I say.
ZachF
22 | Link ➤

1 Dec 20:34
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LN1_Casey
21 | Link ➤

1 Dec 20:41
Mods? I'd like to report a crime against nature.
Lycanthrope
21 | Link ➤

1 Dec 12:06
Disagree, there's a recruitment-drive on for delivery staff right now
TheTalkingMule
19 | Link ➤

1 Dec 20:06
These little manufactured $5 dips are super cute. I'm sitting here with my finger on the SELL button waiting for ANY dip below $580 to liquidate my entire position. Because that's what you do 2 weeks before someone's gonna buy 1/8 of the float. Obviously.
Lycanthrope
19 | Link ➤

1 Dec 11:42
I think they've been looking at daily volume and have decided there's enough trading volume to cover it.

What they don't realise is that it's Citadel selling to Susquehanna, Susquehanna selling back to Citadel, just one share all day
Blue horseshoe
18 | Link ➤

1 Dec 2:18
A constant reminder to self:
Don't turn into this guy
Unpilot
17 | Link ➤

1 Dec 19:29
Elon just said he was sleeping at the Berlin factory tonight....wow ramp problems already!
SELL SELL!

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Unpilot
84 | Link ➤

1 Dec 1:59
Great day all..My son came to visit for Thanksgiving...next car is going to be a Y for my Daughter!
Pezpunk
71 | Link ➤

1 Dec 14:18
i went with a Plaid Model S instead. i'm a family man. i need a sober, practical car that does 0-60 in under 2 seconds.
Rarity
66 | Link ➤

1 Dec 3:58
Bloomberg is reporting that the Tripp lawsuit has settled. He will pay $400k and admit wrongdoing.

Ex-Tesla Factory Worker to Pay $400,000 to End Feud With Musk

Something tells me that this won't be the end of the story. Either he won't pay and we will be back in court, or he will turn on the peop...
AudubonB
57 | Link ➤

1 Dec 5:53
Once again, I fired up the Way, Way, Wayback Machine:

On April 27, 2014, Standard & Poor's gave Tesla's credit an unsolicited junk bond rating of B-, or "highly speculative", with its analysts' comments including the categorization of Tesla as a "niche" automaker, and cast a shadow on the company's...
anthonyj
56 | Link ➤

1 Dec 17:35
I saw this around 7am this morning but I thought it was fake so I didn’t post it. Now there’s an article on Electrek
StealthP3D
51 | Link ➤

1 Dec 5:48
Tesla keeps advancing automotive technology by leveraging their existing technological lead:

At first glance I thought, "Ho-hum, of course, no big deal". But as I thought about the implications I realized how huge it was for Tesla.

What does it mean that the Cybertruck's air suspension will be "li...
Curt Renz
50 | Link ➤

1 Dec 5:08
There has not been an automaker in the Dow Jones Industrial Average since the General Motors bankruptcy in 2009. Now that the committee will be putting Tesla in the S&P 500, I suspect the next consideration will be for the DJIA. However, since the DJIA is share price weighted, I assume a requirement...
Bet TSLA
44 | Link ➤

1 Dec 5:25
Diess being in charge of anything at Tesla would be ridiculous. How would he have any idea how to function in an environment where his fundamental job is to foster innovation? Anybody with that mindset at VW lost their jobs years ago.

Elon's admiration for Diess isn't the "I'd hire you in a heartbe...
Artful Dodger
44 | Link ➤

1 Dec 5:53
Ideally, Tesla announces 2:1 share dividend before the Market opens on Fri, Dec 11th (short that, boi). Effective date for the share distribution as of Dec 21st.

Cap raise announced before Market opens on Mon, Dec 14 for let's say, $50B (enough for all Tesla's planned Bty CapEx). Share offering clo...
Sofie
42 | Link ➤

1 Dec 16:16
I still just don’t understand the “day trader” mindset. To me, it’s like those on the highway who weave in and out of lanes trying to get to their destination 4 minutes faster than the person who just stays in their lane, moving with the flow of traffic, patiently waiting through traffic jams/road b...
TheTalkingMule
41 | Link ➤

1 Dec 2:13
Any particular reason you need to jump up this person's ass? There's an ignore feature if you can't handle this poster. Otherwise, all your complaints is OT!
Bet TSLA
40 | Link ➤

1 Dec 3:06
Justice is sweet!
Vandal caught on Sentry Mode knifing Tesla after following it into parking lot [Video] - Update - Drive Tesla Canada
pz1975
36 | Link ➤

1 Dec 3:01
Where did I say it was $100? I said 1% - that is a vastly different amount for different people. Note that I have been buying and accumulating TSLA since 2013.

Also, I don’t care about “admiration”. I find when people accuse someone else of a negative trait, they should usually be looking in the mi...
bkp_duke
35 | Link ➤

1 Dec 14:57
Now this pisses me off to no end. I know, I know, more FUD.

But crying out to big brother Gov when you cannot win on a level playing field . . . and after you have spent billions cheating behind the scenes with the shorts to take Tesla down . . .

I need to take a walk. Too pissed off after readin...
bkp_duke
34 | Link ➤

1 Dec 14:33
TSLA up 5%

NKLA down 15%

Finally, a little sense in this world.
Navin
34 | Link ➤

1 Dec 14:06
Time to turn on the lights...

The Dark Money Secretly Bankrolling Activist Short-Sellers — and the Insiders Trying to Expose It
Artful Dodger
33 | Link ➤

1 Dec 1:08
After-action Report: Mon, Nov 30, 2020: (Full Day's Trading)

Headline: "Last-Ditch Battle for the Future; TSLA Carries the Day"

"S&P DJI will add Tesla to S&P 500 at its full float-adjusted market capitalization weight on Mon, Dec 21, 2020." (Full News Release)

Traded: $36,716,929,529.27 ($36.72B...
traxila
32 | Link ➤

1 Dec 1:04
Too much celebration going on here. You guys are making me nervous.
StealthP3D
32 | Link ➤

1 Dec 2:37
My observation over the last several months is that he wants VW to fire him and is becoming disillusioned that it's taking them so long. He will likely end up working for Tesla in Berlin. He's a perfect fit.
Maarten
31 | Link ➤

1 Dec 10:02
Just couldn't wait anymore.
Bought the new roadster and.... it was delivered this week!!
UnknownSoldier
31 | Link ➤

1 Dec 7:54
Imagine Roadster being announced for 2021 release. All the money investors made from TSLA can go back to Tesla in the form of $200,000 sports cars.
Blue horseshoe
30 | Link ➤

1 Dec 2:18
A constant reminder to self:
Don't turn into this guy
dc_h
28 | Link ➤

1 Dec 15:04
Assuming Q4 is nearly as good as many of us expect, I think a credit rating upgrade could happen. Rating changes are lagging indicators and subject to momentum. Cash flow should be amazing, even with 3 plants being built. Wall Street is being put on notice with S&P inclusion and Q4 should be the fin...
H Mak
28 | Link ➤

1 Dec 13:44
Coming up later today 'An evening with Elon Musk - Mission to Mars' as part of the ceremony to present him with the 2020 Axel Springer award. Previous recipients include Jeff Bezos and Tim Berners-Lee.

How to watch live as Elon Musk talks life, business and Mars Tuesday
Drumheller
28 | Link ➤

1 Dec 7:42
Roadster referral wins are being added to winners' Tesla accounts.

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StealthP3D
265
votes
33 posts
8 v/p
  1. Tesla keeps advancing automotive technology by lev...
  2. My observation over the last several months is tha...
  3. The overall market is very concerning to me right ...
  4. There shouldn't be conflicting opinions on this. ...
  5. S&P probably won't increase the credit rating unti...
Artful Dodger
221
votes
19 posts
11.6 v/p
  1. Ideally, Tesla announces 2:1 share dividend before...
  2. After-action Report: Mon, Nov 30, 2020: (Full Day'...
  3. Tasha (and ARK Invest generally) have been doggedl...
  4. Here's today's Tech chart from 09:30 EST: Cheers!...
  5. TSLA 08:00 A.M. Real-time chart: Pre-Market Vol b...
Unpilot
151
votes
6 posts
25.2 v/p
  1. Great day all..My son came to visit for Thanksgivi...
  2. Good morning...now I'm not a numerologist...but I ...
  3. Elon just said he was sleeping at the Berlin facto...
  4. Ok now you going to make me come clean. That "yarn...
  5. This is not going to plan so far.
Bet TSLA
128
votes
14 posts
9.1 v/p
  1. Diess being in charge of anything at Tesla would b...
  2. Justice is sweet! Vandal caught on Sentry Mode kni...
  3. Sorry, wasn't really you or this particular trade....
  4. I don't believe this sort of stupidity is due to n...
  5. My position is that while it is possible that mani...
bkp_duke
123
votes
11 posts
11.2 v/p
  1. Now this pisses me off to no end. I know, I know, ...
  2. TSLA up 5% NKLA down 15% Finally, a little sense...
  3. I don't think it is an education problem (my 0.02)...
  4. I just don't buy the "stupidity" argument in this ...
  5. The risk in that, IMO, is that NIO is backed by th...

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Bet TSLA
7 | Link ➤

1 Dec 2:11
This is, of course, pretty much pointless. Unless you're just doing it for entertainment or bragging rights. But seriously, there's nothing impressive about getting 40x return on a $100 investment. It's if you have the balls to bet half your portfolio that you get well-deserved admiration. Of course...
Bet TSLA
5 | Link ➤

1 Dec 2:05
Any idiot could say this on any day. So what? (I have. And sometimes I've got it exactly right, and sometimes I've lost all my money.)
Bet TSLA
4 | Link ➤

1 Dec 17:15
Day traders almost all lose all their money, like most gamblers. And yes, they usually imagine they can make a living while having fun and getting an adrenaline rush. Of course they're almost all wrong, but they like gambling that they might be one of the few who can win. It's a mindset. Self-destru...
Nocturnal
3 | Link ➤

1 Dec 21:14
I'd bet decent money that he has an offer letter signed "Elon Musk" on his desk already.
Pezpunk
3 | Link ➤

1 Dec 15:29
no, he's not being bribed to trash Tesla. it's just typical liberal handwringing. [disclosure - i'm a liberal/progressive, although perpetually frustrated by liberals' tendencies to paralyze themselves into inaction due to imagined dangers]
StealthP3D
2 | Link ➤

1 Dec 15:21
I know it looks like FUD but, in this case, I think the author might just be a highly educated individual who is uninformed about the actual statistics and how Tesla's FSD works. He certainly seems to have a background in urban transport and believes in climate change and the need for sustainability...
FS_FRA
2 | Link ➤

1 Dec 11:24
I don't think the question should be what he can bring to Tesla's table, but rather: where can he best support the transformation of the transportation industry to real sustainability. I don't believe that's at Tesla - I do believe VW is where he should be doing this.

Personally, I don't think he'...
Bet TSLA
2 | Link ➤

1 Dec 3:59
I must have missed the 1%, probably because you didn't say that. You said a very tiny %. People (including me) do all sorts of crazy ass things with tiny percentages of their portfolios, especially if they're up and believe they're playing with house money. It's when fools see them making a ton of m...
Green Pete
2 | Link ➤

1 Dec 3:06
I do hope them finding a successor to Elon is in the plans. He seems like not the worst choice. Elon has made Tesla what it is an will forever be part of Teslas DNA. But it would be nice to not need him to be CEO so that he could be less tied down by the beaurcracy. That guy has way to many genius l...
 
I put this together tonight:

https://zbecknell.github.io/roundtable-roundup/2020-12-01

This is my first pass at an interactive experience for the Roundup. Feature suggestions are welcome!
  • Only dates available on the site right now are 12-01 and 11-30.
  • Choose how many posts show at once in the top left (remembered)
  • Choose how to order posts (always descending) on top right (not remembered)
  • At the very bottom of the page is a toggle for light/dark theme (remembered)
 
Great start! A couple of quick things that came to mind

  • Move the theme-toggle to top of the page
  • If there's a way to give more context for the posts that would be great. For example showing the thread name, and/or breadcrumbs to indicate where you are in the forum's hierarchy

Thanks for all this effort!
 
Great start! A couple of quick things that came to mind

  • Move the theme-toggle to top of the page
  • If there's a way to give more context for the posts that would be great. For example showing the thread name, and/or breadcrumbs to indicate where you are in the forum's hierarchy

Thanks for all this effort!

I agree the theme needs to be moved, as it's not very discoverable on the bottom.

As for context, I need to make that clearer. Case in point, these posts are all from the Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the 2019-2020 Investors' Roundtable sticky thread that has high volume every day. The goal is to be able to easily find the "best" posts from that one thread. These details are not immediately apparent if somebody is stumbling upon this for the first time.

There's no reason this couldn't be applied to other threads of interest, but it would have to be on a case-by-case basis, as I don't have access to the actual underlying data for the forums and wouldn't want to crawl the whole site.https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thr...9-2020-investors-roundtable.139047/page-11148
 
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Suggestions for the new site:
- Move "Show" word out of the button text (instead "show: 10 /25 /50/ 100"), this takes less space
- Add keyboard shortcuts support (j/k for next/prev, o/enter/space to open link), à la Google Reader (RIP)
- Show images, or at least a placeholder if you can't load them, to avoid confusion
- Add date picker to navigate to another day, when tapping on date
- Limit width so each text line don't extend to the whole screen (maybe add option to decrease font size for mobile)
- Add a copyright line at the bottom (to indicate that the page is done loading) or better, add button to "show X more posts"
- Add closing price of stock, for the selected date, in header
- Bonus: add link to (or embed the video of) the Tesla Daily episode somewhere
 
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Suggestions for the new site:
- Move "Show" out of the buttons (show: 10 /25 /50/ 100), to take less space
- Add keyboard shortcuts support (j/k for next/prev, o/enter/space to open link)
- Show images (some post just have a jpg) or at least a placeholder to avoid confusion
- Show date picker when tapping on date to navigate to another day
- Limit content page width so each text line don't extend to the whole screen (maybe add option for smaller fonts on mobile)
- Add a copyright line at the bottom (at least to indicate that the page is done loading) or better, add button to show more posts
- Add closing price for the selected date, in header
- Add link (or embed the video of) the Tesla Daily episode

Great suggestions!
 
Today's post is up:

https://zbecknell.github.io/roundtable-roundup/2020-12-03

Additionally:
  • Sort order is now remembered
  • Fixed a problem with dark theme
When I have time I'm going to have updates automated so data for the current and prior day could be refreshed every so often (maybe every hour).
I love these roundups - they save me so much time and ensure that I don't miss anything. Can you make it so that we can select multiple categories? For example, your previous posts had liked and loved combined.
Thank you for creating these!
 
Hello all! I've made some updates to the Roundtable Roundup!
  • Quotes now show up for full contextual awareness :D
  • Spoilers are supported
  • Add an option to change the post width on larger screens
  • Added "mark as read" button on the bottom right so you don't have to scroll to the top of a post to mark it as read
  • Added "Show More Posts" button at the bottom of the page
  • Fixed display of YouTube imbeds on small screens