Not much to say, just interesting they are risking the su25 right at the front. Oh also suggest reading the entire thread.
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Not much to say, just interesting they are risking the su25 right at the front. Oh also suggest reading the entire thread.
In this he discusses Ukraine operations in the black sea on oil rigs. Perhaps @petit_bateau could give some maritime insight. Very interesting that the larger of the small boats had anti-air systems (hit an su30?). This is very close to the cape operations yeserday.
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The poster does very good work. Nice thread on the upcoming GLSDB.
Here are the Ukrainian special forces on the coast
For those still interested in "the second jet":
The Grey Zone and another site are showing an aircraft RA-0274B which is a Russian-registered Embraer E190 (the base of Lineage 1000, their largest, longest range business jet). Other things remaning equal why would not Prigozhin be in the largest, more comfortable airplane? What were there two? What really happened to the other one.
Regardless of the outcome this one seems to be 100% Mafia-style intrigue and misdirection. Russian instability might actually be rising.
I have no idea what is true or not, just that this is amazing.
FWIW the Legacy 600, the one shot down, si one fo the world's most robust business jets. One was in a mid-air collision in the Amazon with a Boeing 737. Both survived, with no injuries but the Embraer did not even have major damage. They are very popular in Russia due to their robust qualities and their less expensive purchase and operating costs compared to the competition.
The Grey Zone and another site are showing an aircraft RA-0274B which is a Russian-registered Embraer E190 (the base of Lineage 1000, their largest, longest range business jet). Other things remaning equal why would not Prigozhin be in the largest, more comfortable airplane? What were there two? What really happened to the other one.
Regardless of the outcome this one seems to be 100% Mafia-style intrigue and misdirection. Russian instability might actually be rising.
I have no idea what is true or not, just that this is amazing.
FWIW the Legacy 600, the one shot down, si one fo the world's most robust business jets. One was in a mid-air collision in the Amazon with a Boeing 737. Both survived, with no injuries but the Embraer did not even have major damage. They are very popular in Russia due to their robust qualities and their less expensive purchase and operating costs compared to the competition.
You seem pretty pessimistic. A recent poll showed that while around 80% of Republicans will vote for Trump if he's the nominee, around 65% of voters have said they will not vote for him. Most of those Democrats and Independents. Even among Republicans he isn't that popular. In a recent poll of Iowa Republicans 59% said they want a different Republican candidate. His supporters are very loud, but they are a minority.
One constant in American politics is that a large number of voters, especially Independents vote based on the economy. There are other issues that rank high on the list right now too, but most of those issues favor the Democrats. Unlike most of the rest of the developed world, the US economy is doing OK and getting better. Inflation is coming down, employment is the strongest it's been in decades, and the government is pumping over $1 trillion into the economy to improve infrastructure. Most of that money is going to be spent in the next year.
A lot of infrastructure projects people have been talking about for literally decades have gotten funding. One of the most critical is a bridge across a river between Kentucky and Ohio. Structural engineers have been saying for years that it's about to fall down and needs major work.
Another big change is broadband internet that is now being run to rural communities that have been stuck with either dial up or satellite internet. That will begin to be available in those places next summer.
The polls that show Trump and Biden tied are usually around 40-40 with 20% undecided. That 20% isn't thrilled with either of the two candidates, but historically when there are a lot of undecideds on election day, they usually break around 2/3 to 4/5 for the incumbent.
There are no guarantees, but the prospects are not that terrible.
There are also a group of lawyers who are putting together a court challenge to get Trump disqualified under the 14th Amendment. Two conservative law professors made their case for them in a recent law review article. There is only one modern case (a New Mexico county commissioner who participated in the Jan 6 stuff), and he was removed. Because the case law is thin and there is no legislation it isn't guaranteed to work, but I give it a good chance.
The radiation from the plutonium would probably be undetectable in the sea of background cosmic radiation streaming in. The sun puts off a heck of a lot of radioactive particles that are blocked by the Earth's magnetic field and atmosphere.
If you want a pilot who knows what they're doing and isn't going to get shot down on their first mission, it's going to take time to train them. Like I said, Israel has been building the air force they have for 75 years. If Ukraine started now they might be able to have 100-150 more trained fighter pilots by mid-2025. They aren't going to get them this year or next year. Once the surviving trained pilots are retrained, that's it until more are trained.
This whole thing is shrouded in mystery. My partner came across something claiming that Wagner had a plan to do something if Prigozhin was killed. who knows if they are still capable of anything or if it's true. We may know more in the coming days.
Prigozhin was a puppet/ally of one of the major russian oil oligarchs. There are layers on layers there. Based on the plane falling with no wings and shrapnel on the body panels it seems clear it was a anti air system hit. The explosion is not consistent with anything else.
It could have been a body double, maybe on both planes while the real Prigozhin took a train or maybe he never left Africa. With Ruzzia who knows what's real? They are all pathological liars. If Prigozhin was on the plane he was an idiot to fly over Ruzzia not expecting an attempt at a bomb or a missile. Hopefully Vlad gets what he deserves as well.
Agreed. The main thing that makes me think that he was on the plane is that, if Putin was mistaken about that, and has announced Prigozhin's death erroneously, then Prigozhin (alive) retains some very real power to harm Putin by reappearing at an (as the Capt. Jack Sparrow might say) "opportune moment", adding "foolish" to the "weak" adjectives that were starting to float around the Putin regime.
I suppose this just means Putin was pretty certain, but the possibility remains he was outplayed.
What a country. I suppose this was their version of the Presidential Candidate Debates
On this issue all the aviation people on pprune seem to agree that it had to be a bomb on board, since a missile would have caused a different path of destruction. We may actually never know for certain.
Does it really matter? Given that the Wagner telegram posts say he's dead we can assume that everyone else may be telling the truth, however unusual that might be. OTOH, pprune is for professional pilots. Were they to have been accident investigators I'd trust them more.
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The Body Double theory has a problem in that all the second plane’s occupants immediately were taken into custody, so a still-living Mr P would have had to have been yet somewhere else….
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Nothing official yet, but hopefully Norway will send at least 12 F-16s to UKR.
Looking forward to when Ukraine debut's their Toloka TLK-150 underwater unmanned vehicle (UUV), reported as currently in development/prototype stage. It operates just below the surface, only exposing a small communications mast.
How Ukraine's naval drones are suppressing Russian navy
In related news, there are rumors of another UUV in development that goes by "Marichka", allegedly related to the Toloka series with purported specs including 6 meters long x 1 meter wide to carry large amounts of explosives and range of 1000km.
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/ukraine-unveils-marichka-uuv-russias-asymmetric-threat/
How Ukraine's naval drones are suppressing Russian navy
In related news, there are rumors of another UUV in development that goes by "Marichka", allegedly related to the Toloka series with purported specs including 6 meters long x 1 meter wide to carry large amounts of explosives and range of 1000km.
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/ukraine-unveils-marichka-uuv-russias-asymmetric-threat/
Eh, what? The 737, Gol-Transportes-Aéreos-Fight 1907, crashed, killing all 154 passengers and crew.
Putin's comments today on the death of Prigozhin yesterday are entertaining. Fits Putin's usual subtext, confirms why he had him assassinated:
Putin confirms death of Prigozhin; onboard explosion likely cause of plane crash, reports say – Russia-Ukraine war live
In an old interview with Putin, he was asked "Does one need to be able to forgive?" and Putin replied "Yes, but not everything,"
"What can't be forgiven?" the interviewer then asked. "Betrayal," Putin said.
“He was a man with a difficult fate. He made some serious mistakes in his life,”...“He achieved the needed results both for himself and for a joint effort that I had asked him about during the last months.”
Putin confirms death of Prigozhin; onboard explosion likely cause of plane crash, reports say – Russia-Ukraine war live
In an old interview with Putin, he was asked "Does one need to be able to forgive?" and Putin replied "Yes, but not everything,"
"What can't be forgiven?" the interviewer then asked. "Betrayal," Putin said.
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SwedishAdvocate
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Both the Swedish Minister of Defense and Sweden's biggest political party – The Social Democrats (currently in opposition), now want to send Gripen to UKR. Two more political parties now support this as well. That means that there now is at least a 60% support for this in the (one and only) Swedish Parliament. BUT. The condition for this is full Swedish membership in NATO. So this is what Türkiye and Hungary is currently blocking.
Also:
This is an expression of intent. Stuff like financial aspects and how many aircraft Sweden can send still needs to be worked out and finalized. And because of all the US tech in the Gripen, the US must approve this as well.
Source in Swedish:
Stor politisk enighet att skicka Jas Gripen till Ukraina - Nyheter (Ekot)
Även Försvarsminister Pål Jonson är öppen för att skicka Jas Gripenplan till Ukraina, efter att Sverige går med i Nato. Det beskedet gav han efter att ...
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Partial source in English:
Putin and his flunkies are not just committing war crimes against people.
Putin’s War Against Ukraine Is Slaughtering Dolphins in the Black Sea
Putin’s War Against Ukraine Is Slaughtering Dolphins in the Black Sea
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