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Samsung SSD alternatives?
- Thread starter DadRS99
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Technically the best solution would be a high endurance SD card (like the one's you would put in a camera), and a usb SD card reader. SSD's will brick after being overwritten X amount of times (which happens frequently as footage is constantly recorded and overwritten). High endurance SD cards are designed for this time of work.
Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Endurance-microSDXC-Adapter-Monitoring/dp/B084J46RH4?th=1
Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Endurance-microSDXC-Adapter-Monitoring/dp/B084J46RH4?th=1
I thought folks overwhelmingly recommended a SSD for dash cam?
Also want to partition with music, but I guess with the Jeda could just use a thumbnail for music and SD for dash cam?
maximus96
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I just did this using a raspberry pi 4 with a samsung hi endurance 64gb. everytime i come home the pi copies the files to my computer
You'll honestly probably be fine with an SSD (yes it is a very popular choice by most people), but it is not the BEST choice as you asked. Here is a fairly long video explaining why if you are interested in more details that I provided in my first post.
I second not using an actual portable SSD but getting a high endurance SD card with a USB SD Card reader. For one, its usually cheaper, but also its safer, can take more extreme temps better. One thing I would say to stay away from is the simple thumb drives, first they tend to be slow, but are also very flaky and not as durable.
ArizonaJon
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SSD drives normally have control circuits that spreads out the read/write cycles across the whole drive. Thus one area is not continually used. I know this is true for my Samsung SSDs.
What did you buy exactly; more specifically the case and how are you powering it? By chance, do you know if this would sit inside a Jeda Hub?
FWIW, I switched from the Samsung to a SanDisk which fits perfectly in my Testap hub unit:
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Portable-External-SDSSDE60-1T00-G25/dp/B078STRHBX
TAPTES Model 3 USB Hub, Designed for Tesla Model 3 Dashcam & Sentry Mode
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Portable-External-SDSSDE60-1T00-G25/dp/B078STRHBX
TAPTES Model 3 USB Hub, Designed for Tesla Model 3 Dashcam & Sentry Mode
maximus96
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This raspberry pi, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V58CQGR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Powers from the USB A port in the center console. I don't have a case yet and also don't have the Jeda hub yet...
I think the Pi Zero will fit with a case, with stacked USB ports and an ethernet port, I bet the Pi 4 won't fit in the Jeda Hub. I've been debating on doing a automated backup setup like this.
maximus96
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I started with a pi zero as the tutorial but it only supported 2.4ghz WiFi. The pi 4 does 5ghz. It was a big difference in transfer speed for me.
That's true and a good point. Even at 300Mbps, that's fairly decent. I'm just worried about power and heat with the RPi 4. I grabbed a Pi zero to tinker with and will see how this goes.
laservet
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I see SanDisk has a 1 TB SD card. A better choice than a 1 or 2 TB SSD?
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-SDXC-UHS-I-SDSDXXY-1T00-GN4IN/dp/B07VVMD5N7?ref_=ast_sto_dp
maximus96
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I just bought this heatsink/case combo, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VD568FB/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_UlMIEbYCS1C13?tag=tv-auto-20
I'll print one of these when the Taptes knock off hub gets here, Taptes Model 3 (or Y) USB Hub Cover for Raspberry Pi 4 by chilman408
Was the issue that you weren't getting the throughput necessary to transfer all the data before the car went to sleep? Or were there other limitations with the Pi zero?
maximus96
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It was just really slow for me that I wasn’t sure it was even working. The 5ghz WiFi made a pretty big difference for me. When you start up the car, the pi 4 was also recognized as a usb faster compared to the zero. I entered my info for it to stay awake to finish transferring. It does this by enabling sentry mode even thought I have it set to ignore home location.
I've used a Pi Zero inside my Jeda hub on the model 3 for 6+ months with no issues, outside of some occassional flakiness that a power cycle fixes. I'm re-using the same setup in my Y once my Jeda hub arrives.
I don't really need the speed boost for transfers that the Pi 4 would get me, and I'm also concerned about the heat inside the enclosed Jeda hub. I've never had issues with the Zero, but it is pretty warm inside even with the zero.
I don't really need the speed boost for transfers that the Pi 4 would get me, and I'm also concerned about the heat inside the enclosed Jeda hub. I've never had issues with the Zero, but it is pretty warm inside even with the zero.
That's not accurate at all. A typical TLC drive will have a TBW in the 100's with something like a Samsung 850 500GB being rated at 150TBW. The flash drive that you linked in not anywhere close to that in write cycles. And when write cycles are completely exhausted, they don't "brick" but become read only.
The micro sd that you link also has a write life of just over a year (10,000 hours) which is rather poor, even with the high endurance rating. You state that SSD's quickly brick, but at 100-150Tbw, that's many years of constant usage.
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