lafrisbee
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Damn? My cyber cruiser from Hess came in the mail today AND..
It is Cyber...unlike all other cruisers it runs on electric batteries!!!!
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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All Teslas have heated steering wheels now
Given how BMW's attempt to charge monthly fees for hardware features blew up in their faces and was eventually walked back, I highly doubt Tesla would do the same.
finance.yahoo.com
BMW backtracks: Automaker will no longer charge monthly fee for heated seats
BMW is backtracking on a controversial tactic it had in place — charging a monthly fee or subscription to activate hardware-based features in its cars — like heated seats.
That doesn't say anything about these new "paid features" being a subscription. That was an answer to a question about if Tesla was going to retro-actively take away features and make them paid. For which he essentially said probably not, it would only apply to new cars sold after the change, though maybe when they take possession of a used vehicle they would make them paid as well.
lafrisbee
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No. No, the action does not "bode well" for future investments from outside China because whatever the hell China wants to do they can do regardless of anything....and anything includes EVERYTHING.
Tomorrow they could just as easily pull a Putin, and declare Tesla is too important to the welfare of the State, and declare Tesla is now run by the State. (Yes I know it is very very unlikely. But it is within their range.)
The old news I remember was also from mr Green. And from much longer ago. And as a programmer I remember thinking that whatever was "in the code" does not mean much. It could be a lone programmer having fun. Or a policy directly from Elon that was paused/axed.
We just cannot know. And resurfacing this much later make the odds greater that it's a scrapped idea. Or it would have already happened.
Just my 2 øre worth of analyzing.
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navguy12
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Is this simply an option package when buying the car (premium interior versus standard interior, where standard interior doesn’t have heated seats) or is this going to become “renting“ the heated seats via a monthly fee.
If the former, I have no issue with it.
If the latter, if it is “renting“ heated seats, then I think it sucks.
That's pretty crazy to say.
Tesla has removed a lot of basic features to reduce cost USS, passenger lumber, homelink, speakers...and have taken other things out for purchase separately like fobs, mobile chargers, etc.
But subscriptions for normal features would be a first for them.
If that's how you interpret it, that's fine. Comparing it to supercharging and connectivity which are reoccurring payments and mentioning it on used cars is why it was taken that way on that thread and by others reporting it.
The Electric Viking was sharing some interesting facts (and theories) yesterday. Maybe it's obvious, but how long ago did the China plan start?
- 80% of China Dealerships lost money last year.
- 10M vehicles sitting as inventory on Dealer lots, won't sell.
- ICE very difficult to sell - registration process insane.
- The Dealer in China is on the hook once they take vehicle possession, no give-backs.
- China Dealership Bankruptcy likely (so it may seem).
- China and Tesla take-over the industry, legacy collapses.
Speaking of BYD... Happy Friday!
GhostSkater
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More free ads, one of the biggest (and most crashable) automotive presenters getting his daughter a Model 3
Maybe you should pay attention to what he was answering:
"it" will be applied. It being "paid feature", but he doesn't say anything about it being one-time vs. subscription.
So, in my view, his answer is all about can they change the features of existing vehicles without your approval.
Again, that's your take. I don't think it's a logical one and not the prevailing one on the internet, but we can agree to disagree.
They were talking about it in the context of charging for seat heaters/heated wipers.
hey, the Tesla 'super bull' who gets invited and quoted often by the media, didn't get an invite
Which Tesla already does. They charge for rear seat heaters in some models, but it is a one-time purchase, not a subscription.
No, they don't.
We covered this earlier, seat/wheel heaters didn't used to come on all Teslas and in 2020 you could buy them for the M3 standard range, but they are included in all trims as of Nov 2021 in NA. I can't say the same globally, but google seems to suggest it applies to all Teslas.
Really? Are you sure?
So, you are saying they activated all of the rear seat heaters in the old Model 3 SRs for free? Or are they still activating them with a one-time purchase? Or are you saying that they aren't allowing them to be activated at all anymore?
They come with rear seat heaters now. Older M3 they can be purchased. No Tesla in NA and it appears the world has an option for seat heaters. It's standard on all new vehicles. Hence this being new.
In the past with the m3, you would schedule service to enable the rear seat heater, even though it was an OTA $300 option, until they made it a standard feature.
Nope, it is an option to buy in the app.
My point is that Tesla is still charging for rear seat heaters today. (Sure, not on current models, but they are still selling that activation.)
And it is just like the acceleration boost option, one-time and not subscription based.
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