Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[KarenRei]

Something about Tesla coming up on CNBC after the commercial. Interviewing a "Tesla cofounder" (didn't state which one). They mentioned that one of the topics will be "whether deep coal can put the brakes on the EV revolution" (*snicker*)

Hope it's not Eberhard.

 

[JRP3]

Not gonna happen.

Ocasio-Cortez v Tesla: Taxpayers have yet to see ‘return on their investment’

I believe she is misinformed, but not so ignorant as to be unable to change her position when presented with facts, unlike some others in government. In the near term I can understand her concerns about return on investment from GF2.

 

[Singuy]

She's just a socialist idiot that is hot.
All she needs to do is look at how well Venezuela is doing to know that her philosophy fails....every time it's tried.

Dumbest argument against socialism and yet everyone uses it. By this logic then communism work wonders...cause look at China. The 900lb gorilla that the US constantly *sugar* themselves trying to inspire the government to do better by comparing.

 

[humbaba]

...

Here, have an avatar -- you look like you could use one:

 

[Swampgator]

This is deviating from a topic of "policies likely to effect EVs", into "Let's start a fight between people on this forum with differing political ideologies". Not cool.

I hope nobody takes this bait.

Sorry didn't mean to derail. I deleted my post. Let's get back to TSLA

 

[waterloo42]

Volvo Cars courts investors to raise cash for Polestar:
UPDATE 1-Volvo Cars courts investors to raise cash for Polestar | Reuters

Favourite part: "Car industry experts say the Polestar 2 has the potential to take on Tesla’s Model 3 if it can deliver on an expected range of about 300 miles and touted price tag of about 40,000 euros upwards.

“This car will be really relevant to the electric vehicle market from day 1 because that is a radically low price for what Polestar are suggesting it is going to include,” auto analyst Anton Wahlman said. “At that price, it undercuts the Tesla Model 3 pretty significantly on an apples to apples basis.”

Ok, perhaps they should talk to an *actual* car industry expert rather than Anton .. lol!

Also this quote:

“Right now we have the financing we need for the time being (for Polestar)... We need funding to drive the very expensive development so let’s see how fast that can happen"

Fire up the burning cash GIFs for Polestar! Who wants to start the $POLEQ twitter brigade? Or is it $VOLVQ? Gotta bring your own toothbrush though.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

It was mentioned on CNBC about an hour ago.

ED: This might be what was being talked about:

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So actually it looks like it's just the opposite: the US is preparing to rule on increasing car tariffs from the EU, and their ruling could trigger retaliatory tariffs on cars. But the EU is dangling as a carrot the removal of their 10% tariff on cars.

Whichever way this goes, this is going to be major news for Tesla next week. Wish I knew what day they were planning to rule....

If the USA increases tariffs on cars it'd lead to a match plus something on something else.
The USA might just match the EU, then it'd be no different.

 

[Swampgator]

Here, have an avatar -- you look like you could use one:

Thanks man!

 

[CorneliusXX]

Mod-removed to Snippiness

Roads in America are mostly owned by the government. What a filthy socialist hellhole. They should all be privately owned like they do in a good capitalist society.

 

[M. Thompson]

This being the most active discussion board, sometimes it's tough to look through for specific topics that I'm interested in.


TSLA investor discussions wishlist;


I'd like to see discussions for

1) Gigafactory 3 progress updates

2) Tesla 3 export shipment progress (ship tracking etc.)

Thank you

 

[CorneliusXX]

Great. Thank you so much Swampgator for deciding to turn this thread into a political fight :Þ

Please, people, I know this is going to fall on deaf ears... don't take the bait.

Erm....too late

 

[gene]

Sorry Karen, I just can't resist!

"Swampgator said: ↑

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Here are a few socialist operations in the USA:

Airports

Public transportation

Fire departments

Police departments

Public libraries

Every branch of the US military

Roads & highways

Social Security

Medicare/medicaid

Public, not private prisons & jails

Public hospitals

The Veterans Affairs Administration

Public universities

Public parks

Public toilets

Public drinking fountains

Public parking

NOAA

FDA Center for disease control

The White House

Congress

Elections

 

[X Fan]

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2019/0...utm_content=tw-EastBayTimes&utm_medium=social

Did I miss this re service cuts? I thought that was an investment area.

Article states:
“Most departments are being affected by the slashing of an estimated 3,000-plus jobs, or 7 percent of the company’s workforce, but the ones with the most positions being eliminated are in sales and service, according to Tesla’s filings with the EDD last week.”

 

[Carl Raymond]

We are not talking about shift in demand curve, just shift in demand due to price changes. Two different things. Not sure why you are confusing the two.

ps : Are you an economics teacher ?

BTW, Opens down $4 ...

Yes, two different things, which is why, to avoid any chance of confusion, economists reserve the word increase or shift for the former and use the word expansion for the latter. (Ditto decrease v contraction).

No, not a teacher. High school economics, and son of an economics teacher.

 

[EVNow]

Sorry didn't mean to derail. I deleted my post. Let's get back to TSLA

If you are actually not afraid to discuss - you are welcome to the political thread.

(I'm heading out soon on socialist roads)

 

[JRP3]

TSLA talk on CNBC coming up, teased with "40% range loss in cold weather" Hopefully the "Tesla founder" who will be on will crush this.
It's Martin!

 

[KarenRei]

CNBC: "Shares of Tesla are down today after AAA confirmed that EVs lose range in cold weather" Um, no, CNBC, that is not why shares of Tesla are down today...

Also: It's Martin Eberhard. :Þ But thankfully he didn't take any digs at Musk. Just generally talking up the potential of EVs. Good on him.

 

[Matias]

It was mentioned on CNBC about an hour ago.

ED: This might be what was being talked about:

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So actually it looks like it's just the opposite: the US is preparing to rule on increasing car tariffs from the EU, and their ruling could trigger retaliatory tariffs on cars. But the EU is dangling as a carrot the removal of their 10% tariff on cars.

Whichever way this goes, this is going to be major news for Tesla next week. Wish I knew what day they were planning to rule....

Thanks.

Best case is that E.U. removes 10% tax and U.S. removes chicken tax. But that won’t happen overnight.

I find it hard to believe that U.S. would increase tariffs to E.U. as it would with 100% certainty cause retaliation from E.U.

 

[EVNow]

Yes, two different things, which is why, to avoid any chance of confusion, economists reserve the word increase or shift for the former and use the word expansion for the latter. (Ditto decrease v contraction).

No, not a teacher. High school economics, and son of an economics teacher.

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Anyway we can discuss this later, after market close (I'm basically talking post-grad economics, though its been a while).

 

[KarenRei]

Thanks.

Best case is that E.U. removes 10% tax and U.S. removes chicken tax. But that won’t happen overnight.

I find it hard to believe that U.S. would increase tariffs to E.U. as it would with 100% certainty cause retaliation from E.U.

You find that hard to believe? Really? With everything they've done so far?