Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[Chocochip]

It is a bit complex issue:
1. Elon at that point could not confirm the capital raise. So the question was dumb.
2. Elon does not like analysts with low target price and "underperform" recommendations especially if he considers the analysis dumb. Elon was a bit aggressive there.
3. Given the fairly convincing rumors of starting a breakthrough battery cell production, it was predictable that in some form they will need funds to finance expansion even with FCA generously volunteering to finance Giga Berlin. So the claim that TSLA does not need money was an obvious BS.

And I completely agree.

My post was not referring to any of that, however. It was about the fact that

1. when, during the heat of the moment -- conference call -- one poster claims that Elon just basically called a question "dumb" in an indirect way, a prominent forum contributor hits the Love button

2. when a different poster makes the same claim to indicate the contradiction between Elon's comments during the CC and today's announcement, that same prominent forum contributor calls that poster "self-loathing"

Elon (and implicitly Tesla) changes course when presented with changing circumstances. That's a good thing for sure. We here may also change our perspective of the company's evolution and decisions as a result. But it's disingenuous for someone to then claim they never felt differently (which is basically just an expression of unwavering trust in Elon's decision-making), and it's even worse to attack another forum member who points out the strong contradiction between Elon's stances at two different points in time. Disagreeing is fine, but I personally draw a line at personal attacks.

 

[lklundin]

@GF4Tesla..️️.build #GigaBerlin. on Twitter

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The GF4 pine harvesting did start today:

Jörg Steinbach on Twitter

 

[woodisgood]

Never a dull moment. When I woke up to premarket down in low 700s never would I have guessed what was about to transpire.

 

[mekberg]

Lmfao wtf shorts are fried

But TSLA is a bubble ready to burst!!!11

 

[Cohiba]

And I completely agree.

My post was not referring to any of that, however. It was about the fact that

1. when, during the heat of the moment -- conference call -- one poster claims that Elon just basically called a question "dumb" in an indirect way, a prominent forum contributor hits the Love button

2. when a different poster makes the same claim to indicate the contradiction between Elon's comments during the CC and today's announcement, that same prominent forum contributor calls that poster "self-loathing"

Elon (and implicitly Tesla) changes course when presented with changing circumstances. That's a good thing for sure. We here may also change our perspective of the company's evolution and decisions as a result. But it's disingenuous for someone to then claim they never felt differently (which is basically just an expression of unwavering trust in Elon's decision-making), and it's even worse to attack another forum member who points out the strong contradiction between Elon's stances at two different points in time. Disagreeing is fine, but I personally draw a line at personal attacks.

You should look at your avatar more often

 

[bubb]

Bought 2/14 900 calls at the open for 7c, just closed out at 4.20 lmao

 

[mad474]

I feel a little dirty...have a sell order in at 799.99

Just a smidge..but still

 

[Green Pete]

Your phrasing seems to suggest its not possible to close about $887. Wheres the optimisim?

I appreciate all the "funny" responses but this was serious.

 

[Curt Renz]

Gene Munster & Will Thompson of Loup Ventures - half hour ago: Tesla Capitalizes on Its Surge | Loup Ventures

 

[Chocochip]

I had to read Artful Dodger's post again just to be sure. I don't see any personal insults there.

Perhaps pointing out the misquote is taken by you to be a "personal insult"? I do think a little "rolling of the eyes" was warranted because the original post was a misrepresentation of what Elon actually said. And Artful Dodger shouldn't have had to waste his time correcting the record. Additionally, numerous good and valid reasons have already been given why, given what was known during the Q4 conference call, raising additional capital wasn't a good idea while now it is. Tesla is not a static company, things are moving along very quickly and Tesla moves in the moment.

A quote: You are making that up out of your fears and self-loathing.

Does that mean, if some other forum member addressed you like that for including a misquote in one of your posts, you'd be ok with it? Is it just a little "rolling of the eyes"? Maybe I'm overreacting, but to me that sounds offensive. There was no /s included there, no or or anything to imply lightheartedness... but I suppose different people derive different meanings from written text. It's just how it sounded to me.

 

[JusRelax]

Bought 2/14 900 calls at the open for 7c, just closed out at 4.20 lmao

The $990 2/14 calls I sold earlier this week are even starting to show some life. But if those end up ITM, I'll be very VERY happy... and so will the rest of the bulls here.

 

[c041v]

Today is one of those days where it shows how risky it is selling near the money calls to capture premiums.

I had my finger over the "Write Call" button a few times on Tuesday, but did the math on the premium I'd get vs. what I stood to lose based on recent volatility. Any Call worth selling was a little closer to the edge than I was comfortable with. Glad I did not write anything as this could have been me right now.

Of course, having an option assigned at something higher than when that call was written is not the worst thing in the world, but the call premium will seem like a bottle refund with the way TSLA moves.

 

[printf42]

“Valley of plenty” tossing 2B to the Witcher.

“But instead of tossing it to the guy standing on the street calling out the price of your house everyday(read: TMC), we’d rather tossing it into the house.”

It would be hilarious if WS tosses 0.3 too.

 

[KarenRei]

To anyone who's been thinking about writing calls:

Remember to buy on the way DOWN and sell on the way UP. Not the other way around. And only within the bounds of leverage changes that you're comfortable with.

 

[avoigt]

The GF4 pine harvesting did start today:

Jörg Steinbach on Twitter

This is extremely good and positive news as it means they can manage their timetable and get it done in +2 weeks. There is some additional time early in March granted too.

Perfect!

 

[Rb48888]

This stonk be funny.

T-20 hours: Thrilled that I sold my (2 of 2) remaining short-term calls before the drop.

T-10 hours: Sorry I didn't sell back a few LEAPs in my IRA too.

T-3 hours: Set some buy orders way too low.

T-1 hours: Moved those orders up about $50... Still way too low.

T-30 minutes: Holy...

Say it with me: Buy and hold. Buy and hold.

(Core position is long-and-strong )

 

[neezer]

The $990 2/14 calls I sold earlier this week are even starting to show some life. But if those end up ITM, I'll be very VERY happy... and so will the rest of the bulls here.

If you sold them already though, I don't follow...why would it matter to you if they end up higher?

 

[LJS22]

Bought 2/14 900 calls at the open for 7c, just closed out at 4.20 lmao

Nooooo!! I was going to do the same but got distracted haha good call!

 

[sundaymorning]

My condolences to the shorts.

 

[hobbes]

I will never understand this stock !