Don’t worry. I bought their shares today.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Don’t worry. I bought their shares today.
I wouldn't refer to these as futures.
My favorite thing about so called "Tesla killers" is the assumption that when the magic killer car comes out, Tesla's technology will have moved sideways the entire time - range, performance, price etc will be the same as they are today.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
My apologies Dodger, I write drunk. But hey, I edit sober.
Every time another "iPhone Killer" was released, it was already years behind where Apple was at the time. The only one that ever survived was Android, and that was for two reasons as it turns out.
(1) Google was literally giving Android away, it was an open-source project anyone could use freely.
This ended up not being the actual important reason. No, the important reason was:
(2) iPhone was at the time exclusive to AT&T and their principal competitor Verizon wanted something of their own and that something ended up being the original Motorola Droid. Android ended up taking over and leaving behind other prospective "iPhone Killers" like Palm's WebOS, Microsoft's Windows Phone, Nokia's half-baked messes, and Blackberry's floundering operations simply because Verizon backed the flagship Android product of that time. Had iPhone been available on both major American carriers from day one, the world might well have turned out very differently.
So, let's just say the "Tesla Killers" have their work cut out for them and they have already given Elon a 10 year head start. They can't afford to give their cars away, and it's unlikely a powerful company which controls something critical like a national charging network is going to back one of the various upcoming "Tesla Killers" above all the others. So...there will be no Androids this time to take on Apple. Good luck, ICE makers!
MKBHD remembers the Motorola Droid's launch:
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Mo City
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Agreed. Robitaxis should put TSLA at $10K or greater but it's not likely to happen with the current hardware suite IMO. Fortunately, Tesla will continue marching on and become a 1T company in a few years without robotaxis.
When it comes to autonomy, there is a difference between Tesla being first vs. anyone else. Think of it this way: Everyone is trying to build a machine gun. Tesla has infinite rounds of ammunition while the others have a few bullets each. If Tesla is first (or a reasonably close second), it's a bloodbath for the ages because one OTA instantly arms a million cars. If someone else is first, the rollout will be very slow and the others will have time to catch up.
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TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Everyone has been talking about BP transitioning to renewables this week, which is of course total horseshit. Once the auto OEMs and oil companies are forced to pay their debts as investor acquiesce to the concept of profits coming to an end, they're dead.
And that's not even taking into account interest rates may be higher than 0% some day soon.
Tesla gave them a chance to try and keep pace. Now the Model Y and macro factors will drown them in their own debt.
And that's not even taking into account interest rates may be higher than 0% some day soon.
Tesla gave them a chance to try and keep pace. Now the Model Y and macro factors will drown them in their own debt.
Oh Cathie...if i was not married...i would definitely court you!
I found this on a chat site and thought it summarized this week well.
"can not get over how dirty the manipulation is these days. Think about that Thursday blow off to 1520 out of nowhere. Then ripped right back down at end of day. An entire two weeks of making look like it's going to go up. Saving every dive and pivot posturing support. Waiting on 1500/1600 calls to load up and shake most puts and shorts for losses. Then smash it all. It’s really insane how wide in the open they been doing this for the last month."
Also I feel that the low volume and price stagnation is designed to drain off FOMO so that with the addition of Tesla to the S&P there will be a muted response. I feel that this is an actually planned set of events to keep Tesla in check.
Yes a vast conspiracy /s ?
"can not get over how dirty the manipulation is these days. Think about that Thursday blow off to 1520 out of nowhere. Then ripped right back down at end of day. An entire two weeks of making look like it's going to go up. Saving every dive and pivot posturing support. Waiting on 1500/1600 calls to load up and shake most puts and shorts for losses. Then smash it all. It’s really insane how wide in the open they been doing this for the last month."
Also I feel that the low volume and price stagnation is designed to drain off FOMO so that with the addition of Tesla to the S&P there will be a muted response. I feel that this is an actually planned set of events to keep Tesla in check.
Yes a vast conspiracy /s ?
CyberDutchie
Active Member
@Rb48888 Thanks for sharing.
I'm with E*Trade as well. It all depends on your holdings. I signed up for the Line of Credit program and can borrow up to 30% of my current portfolio value. That's because I only hold TSLA in the pledged account.
I didn't know about the -10% if in the S&P 500 and -20% if not. That's good news for me, it means my credit line limit will go up to 40% soon.
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Most of us here reached conclusion that FSD is a question of when, not a question of who.
If you think FSD is still up for grab, that explains your decision.
But, highly recommend you to do some more research on this topic.
Avoid listening to opinions from so called industry veterans(don’t even mention media reports), ask young PhD students instead.
Off Shore
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You're gonna get burned big time for that line around here.
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