Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[ReddyLeaf]

Ten year anniversary article by John Voelcker. Good read of EV history.
It's Been 10 Years Since Modern EVs Arrived: Where We Started, Where We Are and What's Next

 

[goinfraftw]

Ten year anniversary article by John Voelcker. Good read of EV history.
It's Been 10 Years Since Modern EVs Arrived: Where We Started, Where We Are and What's Next

Thanks, reminded me of this:

Global Warming Timeline

 

[Quesder]

Just sold 25% of my TSLA holdings.
My personal situation has changed. After 30 years of literally working myself to death in a very rewarding, however very stressful career, I have now retired from my day job to spend time with family and friends. My wife also just retired so we have gone from two full-time salaries down to nil, no pensions, no savings, only our house, our Model 3 and 99.6% of all other assets in TSLA. Now trimmed to 75% TSLA. We will let this investment ride out for many more years.
Thanks to Elon, all Tesla employees, and all TMC Investment Thread posters for helping making this possible.
Wishing everyone a fantastic, healthy and safe 2021.

Can I Assume your house is $400k and that is 0.4% of the assets... so total assets is $100M?

 

[kanweg]

Can I Assume your house is $400k and that is 0.4% of the assets... so total assets is $100M?

86.3% of all numbers mentioned in discussions are completely made up.

 

[FS_FRA]

I can through Saxo.

...and you better get in there within the next 4 days

 

[FS_FRA]

ARK ETFs are traded on the NYSE. For Europeans, trading ARK ETFs is difficult to impossible.

Relevant links:

Does ARK provide a KIID for investors from European Countries? - ark-funds.com

https://almvest.com/blog/how-to-buy-ark-invest-etf/

CFDs.

"(Disclaimer: 76.4% of retail CFD accounts lose money at Plus500.com)"

Yikes!

 

[FS_FRA]

Me too...2020 model X. I think it relates to us not having the external speakers. My wife’s model 3P was built just a few months earlier and she has the backup hum...and also got the boombox update.

Yes - S / X only got speakers for the regulatory required low-speed sound generation in late 2020. You might be "late" by a few weeks only.

 

[FS_FRA]

Elon not working at the factory or delivery centers for the last days of Q4. https://twitter.com/ElonJet/status/1343274022826618886?s=20

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Good for him! If anyone deserves a few days off decompressing then its Elon!

 

[RobbyJ]

ARK ETFs are traded on the NYSE. For Europeans, trading ARK ETFs is difficult to impossible.

Relevant links:

Does ARK provide a KIID for investors from European Countries? - ark-funds.com

https://almvest.com/blog/how-to-buy-ark-invest-etf/

I'll mention this again: I've researched the possibilities for EU retail investors to buy US ETFs without a KIID,like ARK.
Best option is an option! It's easy and very possible to buy an ARK ETF call, after which you EXERCISE it. You will get the 100 shares in your account, no sweat and no fuss. I've done this and it works with Keytrade bank. It's nothing fishy and entirely legal. Of course do your own due diligence and verify with your EU bank/broker, not advice.
And of course be sure that you know what you are doing and the dangers of trading options before you do this!

 

[chrsk]

Not for all Europeans. I can buy them through both Saxobank and Nordnet.

 

[HG Wells]

Wait... Elon's jet has a Twitter account?

Well, with AI's you never know.

 

[kanweg]

...and you better get in there within the next 4 days

Because....?

 

[Artful Dodger]

I got the update...but no cool horn sounds...model S left out of that fun I guess.

... or any pre-September 2019 Model 3. You must have the "pink noise" speaker hardware for this software to work. It's part of the Federally mandated pedestrian warning system for EVs. Tesla just began shipping compliant cars earlier than required.

Tesla owner shares best look yet at Model 3's Pedestrian Warning System

 

[Driver Dave]

Now that sp 500 dust has settled, I still have a basic question.

That closing at 695...

Where did all those shares come from?

 

[CorneliusXX]

CFDs.

"(Disclaimer: 76.4% of retail CFD accounts lose money at Plus500.com)"

Yikes!

I bought CFDs against Tesla and they have worked well.

They have been a handy derivative for me compared to options. I think of options as time limited (meaning they end on the expiry date) while CFDs are spread limited (they close out if the stock reaches a certain stop price). I could keep a leveraged exposure to Tesla over the last 5 years without having to take a punt on when the stock price was going to take off, rather I just had to ensure the deposit I had was sufficient to cover the lowest price Tesla shares dropped to.

I could have earned higher returns with options if I had more clarity on when Tesla was going to break out of the $180-$380 range it had been in for 5 years but I wasn't prepared to take that risk and end up losing my capital.

It took a while to get used to them and there is a learning curve around setting stop prices.

 

[FS_FRA]

Because....?

...because you stated you're in the EU, and @Buckminster is not in 5 days....

 

[FS_FRA]

I bought CFDs against Tesla and they have worked well.

They have been a handy derivative for me compared to options. I think of options as time limited (meaning they end on the expiry date) while CFDs are spread limited (they close out if the stock reaches a certain stop price). I could keep a leveraged exposure to Tesla over the last 5 years without having to take a punt on when the stock price was going to take off, rather I just had to ensure the deposit I had was sufficient to cover the lowest price Tesla shares dropped to.

I could have earned higher returns with options if I had more clarity on when Tesla was going to break out of the $180-$380 range it had been in for 5 years but I wasn't prepared to take that risk and end up losing my capital.

It took a while to get used to them and there is a learning curve around setting stop prices.

Thanks for the information related to TSLA! Seems like a steep learning curve is the key (as with options). Do you have a good link for some education?

I have an allergic reaction to CFDs mainly because here in Germany they are promoted in the same vein/tone like snake oil, gold, cryptos, magnetic blankets, etc. and then when you look deeper you always get these "xx% of people lose money" warnings.

 

[jw934]

How is there $5 of premium on 1/15 $500 calls right now? I guess that's only a few weeks, but $5?????

Guess now we know at least part of the answer.

Background: Last Wednesday when TSLA was around $645 , the Jan 15, $500 strike calls were $150, which was only $5 above the intrinsic. So why was the premium so low?

At least some could be due to investors with large 2020 and prior year gains that want to sell off part of their holdings (say, to retire?) but to delay tax for one year through selling ITM calls with expectation they will be exercised In January, and at the same time get $5 more than the market price of the shares.

Others who don’t do options could sell just the shares on this Wednesday for settlement on Monday Jan 4, and miss out on getting the $5, but avoids the “risk” that TSLA could be below $500 on Jan 15.

 

[MartinAustin]

$666 in pre-market. Can't see them mentioning that on CNBC

 

[Christine69420]

So far today 177 Teslas hav been registered in Norway. All Model 3 except for one Model X.

Yesterday 107 Teslas. None on the 25th and 26th.

But an impressive 10 on Christmas Eve which is our main day of Christmas. Best gifts ever I would think!

Source: Tesla Registration Stats