The problem with omnicron is that so many are asymptomatic. And I know the Chinese close down an entire community/building if there's one positive case. So just because it's a close loop doesn't mean we are safe. One asymptomatic person could ruin the entire thing
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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I think this Yishan is a wise man speaking from experience. I hope Elon will hear his advice.
The root cause is HUMAN with all of their evil. In this 21st century, we still have Putin attacking Ukrain!
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That was wonderful. Thank you. Clarity when clarity was needed. Hope Elon takes his warning into consideration.
I read that long thread. It basically says censorship is necessary on social networks because "All You [expletives censored by TMC]" won't stop posting "Dangerous Ideas." Rules can't be designed to avoid censorship, and the writer knows this because he used to run Reddit.
It reminds me of all the experts who said reusable rockets can't be done, because the experts couldn't do it. Well maybe so, sir, but you are not Elon Musk.
Free speech is not as important as informed intelligent speech from knowledgeable person. Well, at least in my area of job.
The only reason I created a Twitter account was to follow Elon tweets and understand the -5-10% SP action in the good old Funding Secured days.
The only reason I created a second Twitter account was to follow Elon tweets after losing the logging credentials to my first account and losing access to the email I used to create it.
There is probably around 95% useless tweets on Twitter. Here, I would say useless posts are only around 50% on the good days. Going down to maybe 25% after the mods bulk delete streaks of posts.
Sorry for adding a useless post today
I agree this contains many of the things that I have been thinking. I really want Elon to take his advice and step back from any ideas about buying Twitter or starting a new Social Network.
That's an apples and oranges comparison.
One statement is on the reliable perversity of human nature, the other is denial of hard-headed (and excellent) engineering.
Elon has a great scientific/engineering mind, but he’s not the wisest mind that we can see through many of his previous actions/tweets.
To expect him to come up with fixes to a problem inherent in human nature is illusional (imho)!
I agree-while mining companies are large corporations with a good number of employees, most companies designing and engineering mining equipment are relatively small and don't have a great deal of resources, at least relative to a major manufacturer like Tesla. Tesla is one of the world's leaders in AI and automation. If they could put a small portion of their resources into revising the mining and refining process, they could revolutionize the industry. Personally, I'd like to see Elon get involved with deep sea mining of metallic nodules. One company I've been following (The Metals Company) is working on it, as are some others. Same situation-they could use an infusion of capital and engineering resources.
We can all agree that human nature has limitations. But I'm willing to consider the possibility that smart rules and engineering can handle those limitations better than Twitter currently does.
Traffic lights prevent a lot of accidents from selfish humans trying to drive home fast.
Elon already mentioned in his TED talk several fixes to make Twitter more trusted and effective:
1) an Edit button that deletes all Likes and Retweets of the edited tweet
2) open-sourcing the algorithm, such as posting it on GitHub
But I don't "expect him to come up with fixes" all by himself. Elon recruits the finest minds in the world to work for him.
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BriansTesla
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I personally think that Elon can do this. All he needs to do is to apply first principles thinking to the human condition.
First step in Master Plan Part V: Minimize fear and greed.
Maybe I'll start a thread.
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Exactly. We have only to look at Tesla as a company when it comes to things that are human problems rather than engineering or physics. It is nowhere near as much of a success.
Elon's main superpower is first principles thinking. There are no first principles when it comes to keeping people happy and civil. If Elon gets sucked into trying to solve the problem of human interactions not always leading to good outcomes he will fail, possibly spectacularly. And because he's stubborn and determined and likes to win, it will become a horrendous time sink. There are pretty much an unlimited number of things to try, and not one will be optimal.
He has already turned what he has many times said is relaxation and distraction for him, a way to amuse himself, into work. Making more work for himself and eliminating relaxation and amusement is truly not a good idea. Even winning would be losing.
One thing in Yishan's long twitter thread that I absolutely agree with: "I think if Elon takes over Twitter, he is in for a world of pain. He has no idea." Free speech is a much harder problem than FSD, if only because it requires a much deeper understanding of human beings and their quirks and foibles.
Nope. Much more mechanism, much more frictional losses, much more maintenance, much higher cost. Both approaches can produce power-but seem like they would be very costly and inefficient. If elevation change and volume of flow is sufficient, just run a pipe and put a micro-turbine at the bottom of the pipe (penstock I think is the proper term). There is no need for a dam unless you need it to backstop a large reservoir of water and provide an elevation change. If you're talking a water supply down a mountain, it's superfluous.There was another odd article on CT about using Trucks to truck water down a mountain, use regen to charge their batteries and use that charge to do other things.
New Electric Trucks-For-Hydropower Scheme: Look Ma, No Dams
Fleets of electric trucks could be deployed in low impact hydropower systems that deploy existing roads instead of new infrastructure.cleantechnica.com
I like the concept, but we could even improvise on that on having a chain of large buckets of water sliding down a mountain on rails, and generating electricity through regen and sending it to grid. It is a closed loop, where the buckets are roped up the mountain using a fraction of electricity it generates while coming down. The question is will this be more efficient than a standard damn and turbines?.
I dare you to apply first principle thinking while arguing with your wife. I'm sure she'll love to hear you breaking down her human condition.
Applying first principles requires knowing what they are. Many folks who don't know the science of human behavior assume it doesn't exist, but this is incorrect. For example, when "arguing with your wife" you might find this helpful:
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I disagree. Musk is an outstanding engineer, no doubt. But he's still one guy. His real skill is the ability to put a team together, to identify the right people and skills for that team, and to lead and inspire them to do things that are beyond any reasonable expectation. Nothing he's attempted is truly...unique. Other companies built electric cars-but none successfully built one that has people converting in droves from ICE. None achieved the engineering and product efficiency, none, including companies with a century of experience has touched Tesla's manufacturing efficiencies. None has done nearly as good a job managing supply chains throughout a global pandemic. NASA has spent billions since the shuttle was developed, dabbled with programs for 40 years, never built a reusable rocket (other than portions of the STS)-and has us hitching rides into orbit on Russian space craft. Until Elon and SpaceX, space travel required the resources and finances of a nation-state, not a small, private company. Musk didn't do those things by himself-he built and led the teams that did those things, and had the courage to risk his life's savings many times over on new ventures. There is a reason that Tesla and SpaceX are the dream companies for young engineers to work for-and that reason is Elon Musk.
I think the Twitter issue is way overstated. He may simply want to revise Twitter such that all points of view are allowed and respected, one where "group think" and conformity isn't demanded, where alternatives to prevailing thought may be presented and discussed. And lets face it, Twitter's interface and user tools are pretty terrible, it wouldn't take much to make them better. Reforming Twitter and putting together a much better, more capable and more efficient team to run it, really doesn't seem like it would take a lot of effort or a great deal of Elon's time. At least in comparison to developing the EV industry or revolutionizing manned space flight or creating a global internet service. I'd strongly suspect he already knows who he would want in leadership positions and where he wants to go. Lets face it, it's just software. He did more complicated things with PayPal when he was just a kid (well, at my age anyone under 45 is a kid) and when the technology was new and far less understood.
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That also means the value of the shares is drastically diluted. This is not a good thing for the shareholders-and my understanding is that the board does have a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders, not just their own egos.
The basic engineering is dirt simple, basic conversion of potential energy to kinetic, and vice versa. The question is how practical this approach is on a large scale. I think the cost of the structure to support the amount of weight and the height required would be massive and extremely prohibitively expensive. A much less expensive approach would be an inclined railway design up a mountainside. The mountain is your structure, all you need is rails to guide/support the weights. A little less efficient due to friction of whatever kind of wheels support the weights, but far, far cheaper. Still-I suspect far more expensive than pumped storage. Either approach would have far more maintenance of the mechanical systems involved rather than just a pump and a turbine (which, depending on design and efficiency, can be one unit). Keep in mind, the same fundamental principle applies, converting potential energy (mass x height x gravity) to kinetic energy, which is then used to drive a generator. What is simpler and less expensive, a concrete wall, a pipe and a pump/turbine (well, assuming a mountain is available) or a massive structure, lots of heavy weights and motor-generators/cables to lift them?
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Social sciences do not have absolutes. With first principles, you can deduct that reusable rockets are feasible.
I can’t see how Elon can be sure he can accomplish what he wants with Twitter. Where is the first principles logic that this will work?
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