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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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I agree they are expanding, just saying the ~1.5m number is misleading at the rate of EV expansion.
Nasdaq has picked up some momentum. I expect a last hour attempt to push down back below the 30 day MA, but I don't think it will be successful with how today has gone. This sets up next week as a place your bets on CPI week that runs to ~12.8 or down to ~11.7.
It was fun rally but MM's clearly stepping in to protect the 800 Call Wall. TSLA's trading since hitting 792 has diverged from the macro's which shows pretty clear intervention on the MM's part.
Would take substantial volume to counter MM's at this point. I'm not complaining though. It's all about the stock just holding it's head above water until we get Q2 over with.
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Sorry, somehow OT: Yahoo ( Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) Stock Price, News, Quote & History - Yahoo Finance ) seems to have abandoned the "ticker in the browser tab"?*
Unnice, if true
Edit: e.g. Tradegate Exchange still has it.
* Tested with recent Firefox + Chromium
Unnice, if true
Edit: e.g. Tradegate Exchange still has it.
* Tested with recent Firefox + Chromium
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GrandEnigma
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Not fully up to speed on this thread, so sorry if this was already posted, but looks like Ford has finally seen the light with fixed price direct sales.
www.roadandtrack.com
Ford CEO Says Zero Negotiation Pricing Transactions Necessary for EV Business
CEO Jim Farley says the company has to build out its infrastructure to support online, delivered, zero-negotiation sales.
www.roadandtrack.com
Tesla has been diverged from the macros all day (I'd argue since last week), and the 800 point was clear resistance from early on before the macros gained momentum.
Dealers are going to fight that tooth and nail... and this is why they've fought Tesla at every turn. It set a precedent that is hard to come back from.Not fully up to speed on this thread, so sorry if this was already posted, but looks like Ford has finally seen the light with fixed price direct sales.
Ford CEO Says Zero Negotiation Pricing Transactions Necessary for EV Business
CEO Jim Farley says the company has to build out its infrastructure to support online, delivered, zero-negotiation sales.
What Farley isn't saying is how Ford plans to get around the very long-term contracts they have with all of their dealerships. Sure in say 2030, Ford will have been able to let all of it's dealership contracts expire. But for the next 5 years?...............Yeah show me Farley how you're going to achieve this, don't just talkNot fully up to speed on this thread, so sorry if this was already posted, but looks like Ford has finally seen the light with fixed price direct sales.
Ford CEO Says Zero Negotiation Pricing Transactions Necessary for EV Business
CEO Jim Farley says the company has to build out its infrastructure to support online, delivered, zero-negotiation sales.
its probably since nuke is counted as clean. Chernobyl/Fukushima/whateverisnext begs to differ. But from a CO2 standpoint it is.
I agree, but step one is realizing you have a problem
. I also found it interesting that he is eschewing EV advertising saying they'll never do a superbowl ad, for example.Farley is doing whatever he can to copy Tesla as quick as possible... but it is hard turning around an aircraft carrier.I agree, but step one is realizing you have a problem
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
So what? Each dollar of SP isn't ground gained or ground lost, it's just a snapshot. Sure, MM's can cap and push down a bit now that volume has dropped considerably. That doesn't mean TSLA is worth 780 instead of 790, it's just a moment in time exchange rate.
We got a glimpse of what SP will do in a light macro breeze. Delightful!
Yeah but booze is dead expensive in Iceland. So, swings and roundabouts reallyFactoid/tidbit of the day:
Clean electricity production per capita, KWh
(nuke+hydro+geo+wind+solar)
50,448Iceland
28,051Norway
15,104Sweden
13,798Canada
8,608Finland
7,223Switzerland
6,956France
5,610Slovenia
5,429Austria
5,379New Zealand
4,825United States
4,568Belgium
3,748Slovakia
3,634Ireland
3,566South Korea
3,332Spain
3,263Czechia
3,236Bulgaria
3,140Germany
3,008Russia
2,836Denmark
2,638Portugal
2,400Hungary
2,383Australia
2,227Brazil
2,157United Kingdom
1,883Chile
1,825Taiwan
1,787Croatia
1,720China
1,716Japan
1,681Greece
1,653Romania
1,534Italy
1,515Ukraine
1,463Latvia
1,456Turkey
1,410Netherlands
1,143Argentina
1,130Venezuela
1,035Peru
1,027Luxembourg
Motor Mouth
Member
There have been talks of spinning off the EV business right?
Hmmmm I don't think I ever said today's trading had any significance beyond just a day of trading. It's just musings from the trading action of the day. As I said in the post, it's really just about TSLA keeping it's head above water until Q2 is over since we won't get have TSLA specific catalyst until July 2nd/3rd.
I've seen this mentioned a few times.
I'm of the opinion dealerships are going to fight tooth n nail if legacy auto tries to go this route. And I think dealerships would win the lawsuit. Those contracts are pretty iron clad and Ford trying to say their EV business is a "new" business while using factories/production lines that were essentially paid for by their ICE sales, will not fly in court.
Another option is that Ford and the dealerships come to essentially a buyout agreement, with Ford taking a monumental one-time loss. But even then, I think that's highly unlikely.
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