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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Gigapress
Trying to be less wrong
Here is a post that actually is investment and financial advice, in contrast to the unlikely doom and gloom possibilities about which I have written earlier today.
Do you find yourself with any or perhaps all of the following?
If you have this stuff and still are experiencing fear about finances or anxiety ultimately rooted in worries about economic scarcity, is the problem that you don't have enough already, or the feeling itself? Is an irrationally falling TSLA stock price a good reason to be in a grumpy mood right now?
It's a very natural and understandable human feeling to experience, considering that historically contentment was never optimal for maximizing reproductive success.
But you are a modern rational human. Homo sapiens sapiens. You have that computer, that internet connection, that access to knowledge and ideas, strangers who can encourage you through books or podcasts or YouTube, and the free time (if you made room for it by sacrificing some of this aforementioned abundance) to come up with a new way of thinking about your situation that makes you happier and more joyful. Here's a couple good places to start:
www.mrmoneymustache.com
www.mrmoneymustache.com
If Mr. Money Mustache is not your cup of tea, how about recent wisdom from our Technoking?
Do you find yourself with any or perhaps all of the following?
- Rich, varied, healthy, delicious foods
- Clean freshwater on tap that is reliable and cheap
- Modern medical care
- Computer, smartphone and broadband internet connection almost everywhere you go, and the literacy necessary to take advantage of it
- Literal metric tons of material possessions
- Electricity that is reliable and cheap
- Automatic indoor heating and cooling, and even humidity control if you want it
- Bed with a mattress and plenty of sheets and blankets
- Ability to walk outside alone without significant risk of being murdered or mauled by a bear/other predator
- Refrigerator, stove, oven, dishwasher, salt, herbs, spices, pots, pans and a wide variety of other unnecessary specialized kitchen tools and appliances
- Motorized transport (car, bus, train, plane, boat, e-bike, etc.)
- Multiple pairs of shoes and clothes, with fashion as the primary consideration
- Washing and drying machines
- Waste removal services for your poop and trash
- A shower, and multiple options for soap and towels
- Contraceptives
- Toothbrush and toothpaste that prevents you from losing teeth and having severe gum disease by age 40
- Cameras
- Access to barbell equipment that could make you strong if only you'll use it
- Access to scientific knowledge that wasn't even known until very recently
- Access to billions of songs of your choosing and speakers that can play it on demand with nearly perfect fidelity
- Low likelihood of compulsory military service
- Low likelihood of you, your partner, or someone you know dying in childbirth or losing an infant to something like typhoid, influenza or yellow fever
- Low likelihood of your government unjustly seizing all your property, or imprisoning you, or executing you
- More high-quality entertainment options than you have time for
- Freedom to say anything you want, within reason
- Freedom to associate with anyone you want, within reason
- Freedom to travel almost anywhere on the globe, or even get a spectacular view of the ground from the actual stratosphere while doing this travel
- Freedom to elect who runs your country
If you have this stuff and still are experiencing fear about finances or anxiety ultimately rooted in worries about economic scarcity, is the problem that you don't have enough already, or the feeling itself? Is an irrationally falling TSLA stock price a good reason to be in a grumpy mood right now?
It's a very natural and understandable human feeling to experience, considering that historically contentment was never optimal for maximizing reproductive success.
But you are a modern rational human. Homo sapiens sapiens. You have that computer, that internet connection, that access to knowledge and ideas, strangers who can encourage you through books or podcasts or YouTube, and the free time (if you made room for it by sacrificing some of this aforementioned abundance) to come up with a new way of thinking about your situation that makes you happier and more joyful. Here's a couple good places to start:
Cure Yourself of Tiny Details Exaggeration Syndrome
In my ongoing and painstaking research on what separates Wealthy Mustachians who feel life is full of abundance, from Consumer Suckas who can’t seem to get ahead because of life’s many …
www.mrmoneymustache.com
When Ridiculousness is Ubiquitous
Imagine that you are floating comfortably above an alien planet observing the really insane species that lives there. We’ll call these beings Sheeple, because their incredible tendency to fol…
www.mrmoneymustache.com
If Mr. Money Mustache is not your cup of tea, how about recent wisdom from our Technoking?
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Paracelsus
Active Member
CNBC with anything that could stick to Putin today......................and on the very front page of MSN yesterday claiming Tesla EVs were exploding all over Florida. While I still haven't seen any exploding Tesla EVs here yet, I do think I might recognize the name of someone who owns an awful lot of MSN that had a short position against TSLA recently...........
Yep, when the monthly gasoline bill is the same as an EV monthly payment, then it's a no-brainer.
I talked to a full time Uber driver who rents a Hertz Model 3, he said renting is the same cost as his gas bill driving his old Honda CR-V
Thanks for posting that @Gigapress. I forwarded it to several folks who are feeling pretty anxious, I think it will help.Here is a post that actually is investment and financial advice, in contrast to the unlikely doom and gloom possibilities about which I have written earlier today.
Do you find yourself with any or perhaps all of the following?
If you have this stuff, or maybe even more additional amazing stuff like it, then I want to congratulate you, because your life is insanely awesome. You are fabulously rich in a way that the majority of humans alive today would love to have, and the majority of humans who have ever lived, even kings and emperors, couldn't even imagine. If you're here on the TMC investor forum, then I bet you're probably even very rich compared to the majority of the population in the country you live in, and they also have all this stuff.
- Rich, varied, healthy, delicious foods
- Clean freshwater on tap that is reliable and cheap
- Modern medical care
- Computer, smartphone and broadband internet connection almost everywhere you go, and the literacy necessary to take advantage of it
- Literal metric tons of material possessions
- Electricity that is reliable and cheap
- Automatic indoor heating and cooling, and even humidity control if you want it
- Bed with a mattress and plenty of sheets and blankets
- Ability to walk outside alone without significant risk of being murdered or mauled by a bear/other predator
- Refrigerator, stove, oven, dishwasher, salt, herbs, spices, pots, pans and a wide variety of other unnecessary specialized kitchen tools and appliances
- Motorized transport (car, bus, train, plane, boat, e-bike, etc.)
- Multiple pairs of shoes and clothes, with fashion as the primary consideration
- Washing and drying machines
- Waste removal services
- A shower, and multiple options for soap and towels
- Contraceptives
- Toothbrush and toothpaste that prevents you from losing teeth and having severe gum disease by age 40
- Cameras
- Access to barbell equipment that could make you strong if only you'll use it
- Access to scientific knowledge that wasn't even known until very recently
- Access to billions of songs of your choosing and speakers that can play it on demand with nearly perfect fidelity
- Low likelihood of compulsory military service
- Low likelihood of you, your partner, or someone you know dying in childbirth or losing an infant to something like typhoid, influenza or yellow fever
- Low likelihood of your government unjustly seizing all your property, or imprisoning you, or executing you
- More high-quality entertainment options than you have time for
- Freedom to say anything you want, within reason
- Freedom to associate with anyone you want, within reason
- Freedom to travel almost anywhere on the globe, or even get a spectacular view of the ground from the actual stratosphere while doing this travel
- Freedom to elect who runs your country
If you have this stuff and still are experiencing fear about finances or anxiety ultimately rooted in worries about economic scarcity, is the problem that you don't have enough already, or the feeling itself? Is an irrationally falling TSLA stock price a good reason to be in a grumpy mood right now?
It's a very natural and understandable human feeling to experience, considering that historically contentment was never optimal for maximizing reproductive success.
But you are a modern rational human. Homo sapiens sapiens. You have that computer, that internet connection, that access to knowledge and ideas, strangers who can encourage you through books or podcasts or YouTube, and the free time (if you made room for it by sacrificing some of this aforementioned abundance) to come up with a new way of thinking about your situation that makes you happier and more joyful. Here's a couple good places to start:
Cure Yourself of Tiny Details Exaggeration Syndrome
In my ongoing and painstaking research on what separates Wealthy Mustachians who feel life is full of abundance, from Consumer Suckas who can’t seem to get ahead because of life’s many …When Ridiculousness is Ubiquitous
Imagine that you are floating comfortably above an alien planet observing the really insane species that lives there. We’ll call these beings Sheeple, because their incredible tendency to fol…
If Mr. Money Mustache is not your cup of tea, how about recent wisdom from our Technoking?
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About stock buy back, I think after Q3 it would become increasingly clear they are raking in more cash than they know what to do with.
They projected 12-18 months of global economy slowdown, so unlikely they would start many new GFs beside the one they were going to announce end of this year.
For the next year or so they will be ramping up Berlin and Austin and raking in even more FCF, and not have much more need for spending.
They need to park those cash somewhere, and TSLA looks like a much better option than Bitcoin at this time.
Depending on how FSD progresses, new factories might be dedicated to RoboTaxi, when they need the money for new factories or their own fleet, it would be after FSD is clearly working and been piloted at smaller scale. Market would be throwing money at Tesla at that point. So even if they need to issue some new stock at that point it would be at a better price, making buy back now a good investment.
Unrelated rants:
On the topic of piloting FSD, one thought struck me today:
They recently added the capability for cars to automatically adjust air suspension on known rough roads. If they expand that to include “known tough turns”, and avoid that in FSD navigation route calculations, they might be able to get from point A to point B pretty well already.
Maybe they don’t want to do that too early so they can collect more data about those difficult cases for training.
But if they want to, they might be able to roll out a pilot program much earlier than people would think, just with that.
They projected 12-18 months of global economy slowdown, so unlikely they would start many new GFs beside the one they were going to announce end of this year.
For the next year or so they will be ramping up Berlin and Austin and raking in even more FCF, and not have much more need for spending.
They need to park those cash somewhere, and TSLA looks like a much better option than Bitcoin at this time.
Depending on how FSD progresses, new factories might be dedicated to RoboTaxi, when they need the money for new factories or their own fleet, it would be after FSD is clearly working and been piloted at smaller scale. Market would be throwing money at Tesla at that point. So even if they need to issue some new stock at that point it would be at a better price, making buy back now a good investment.
Unrelated rants:
On the topic of piloting FSD, one thought struck me today:
They recently added the capability for cars to automatically adjust air suspension on known rough roads. If they expand that to include “known tough turns”, and avoid that in FSD navigation route calculations, they might be able to get from point A to point B pretty well already.
Maybe they don’t want to do that too early so they can collect more data about those difficult cases for training.
But if they want to, they might be able to roll out a pilot program much earlier than people would think, just with that.
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verystandard
Member
I bought my first 10 shares of Tesla back at May 29 2019 and I'm still consistently purchasing a few shares every few days making sure to averaging down.
Below are two hit pieces that is around 2019 and funny it sounds pretty much the same in 2022 as well.
I expect things should turns out the same this time when we looked back 2 years later. Good luck to us all!
Below are two hit pieces that is around 2019 and funny it sounds pretty much the same in 2022 as well.
I expect things should turns out the same this time when we looked back 2 years later. Good luck to us all!
Normally in a rate rise cycle/recession there's a point where a bunch of companies fail and people are running scared. From what I have seen there has been no major bankruptcies and people at worst think they're a little gassy.
I ventured onto TWTR to check out this latest EM / PUTIN nonsense.
What a mistake. The word cesspool to describe it falls far short of the reality.
Need to go stare at a corner for a while.
What a mistake. The word cesspool to describe it falls far short of the reality.
Need to go stare at a corner for a while.
Runarbt
Active Member
We laugh at Gordon the clown, but I just got a link to a Gordon video as proof that Tesla lose money on everything but cars
Some people actually buy into his lies..
We need to add two reactions to posts: Sad and Mad.
Edit: Need to clarify. Not mad or sad at the poster, but what's in the post. Examples below...
Edit: Need to clarify. Not mad or sad at the poster, but what's in the post. Examples below...
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Mad
We laugh at Gordon the clown, but I just got a link to a Gordon video as proof that Tesla lose money on everything but cars
Some people actually buy into his lies..
verystandard
Member
too
Hang in there folks...soon it will be epic!
Don't think anyone is failing. Hell I think Tesla is in great shape.
I just refuse to anticipate the SP will make any major moves in the positive direction soon. SP is stuck in FU mode and I don't expect that will change. Kind of sick of people telling me why in XXX days the stock is going to pop. Been hearing this refrain all damned year long. The stock will eventually right itself. But experience over the past 9 months suggests it's gonna go sideways at best for some time yet regardless of any news.
I would love for this to be the time the boy who cried wolf is finally right. I'm just not investing or holding out hope on any short term turnaround in the SP regardless of news.
Nolimits
Member
We are back in extreme fear levels. Good time to buy. Bottom is near.
Thought that was last week /s
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