Buckminster
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I selected Optimus. I don't think it is too early to see Optimus building prototype robotaxis using the unboxed process 8/8.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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jkirkwood001
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Clearly - and I'm certainly not advocating - this design is about the peak power the 48 HP motor adds to the downsized 4-cylinder ICE compared to last year's 6-cylinder standard. The hybrid may not even get better fuel economy than than this year's pure ICE model:
I agree with @cliff harris , this is just pathetic "innovation" by Toyota, a company which is sadly well past its prime. (Whoops no pun intended)
Not Chinese, but would that particular issue have affected ALL brands, not just Tesla?
Most likely reason is that early-in-the-quarter EXPORTS from China decreased the number of China domestic-sale Teslas available, as has been the norm for many quarters now, no?
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"In March, the Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers increased 0.4 percent, seasonally adjusted, and rose 3.5 percent over the last 12 months, not seasonally adjusted. The index for all items less food and energy increased 0.4 percent in March (SA); up 3.8 percent over the year (NSA)."
3.4% was expected...as soon as the data was released the pre-market push-down started
"In March, the Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers increased 0.4 percent, seasonally adjusted, and rose 3.5 percent over the last 12 months, not seasonally adjusted. The index for all items less food and energy increased 0.4 percent in March (SA); up 3.8 percent over the year (NSA)."
3.4% was expected...as soon as the data was released the pre-market push-down started
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2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Please,
You are either a troll, or simply not open to applying the facts to your thesis.
The numbers you quote are based upon "registrations" in China, yet you have referred to them in your argument as "China sales" at one point, and "China deliveries" at another. These are only a record of China registrations. They are at best an approximation of either sales or deliveries of vehicles in China itself.
Giga-Shanghai is Tesla's largest export factory. Tesla has a long-standing strategy of exporting vehicles at the beginning of a quarter in order for them to be delivered in other countries by the quarter's end.
Exports will not be "registered" to receive a China license plate. Therefore, exported vehicles will not be represented in a publication of China vehicle registrations.
You do clearly understand the "average" per week numbers are 6666, yet seem to grapple with the concept of some weeks showing lower and others showing higher numbers in order to be averaged to reach that figure.
Then you presume that this tiny sliver of data showing reduced China registrations that has repeatedly occurred in the first week of every quarter for a significant number of quarters is somehow unusual and worthy of your deep felt concern and fears for Tesla as a company.
How long before you begin to notice that every time you spew this sort of FUD, that rational, logical answers are provided that demonstrate this is business as usual, and realize how you need to zoom out in order to see the bigger picture over time?
After being consistently demonstrated as someone who over-reacts and then battles furiously to maintain your fear, uncertainty, and doubt rather than accept the fact that nothing is amiss, it paints you as either a troll, or someone who is unable to assimilate and correlate factual information in such a way as to alleviate your mistaken concerns.
So, which is it? Are you trolling on purpose to mount a FUD campaign, or is filtering the data a challenge for you?
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willow_hiller
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Among the top items were vehicle insurance and vehicle repairs. Inflation does seem to be hitting the cost of car ownership particularly hard:
The inflating prices of these vehicle-adjacent items probably is suppressing the public's desire to buy new cars. But likewise, they might pose opportunities for Tesla to continue innovating on Tesla Insurance and Service.
They are dominating now in the NA market without EVs. And that battery is not for range, it's for power assistance. So it needs to be cheap hence the old battery.
According to some here, a plant to build more Robo Taxis...................
Right in the middle of an election cycle? That will only boost Modi's already bright chances. Not that I am complaining...
Krugerrand
Meow
Yes, a lot of this and that going on.
Krugerrand
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Word is that the vast majority of vehicles produced in the time frame (so like at least the week before) went on boats. Probably being dumped in one of the planets vast oceans as I type this.
That means, there weren’t any cars left to sell in China. Do you understand now?
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
But how will the batteries "vent"?
/sBeen thinking... pressurizing a battery chamber is a nice idea, but why do it on CT and not on other models? Designed-to-float is one theory, here's another. It is based on several unsuccessful oil pan gasket changing days to fix a drip (without mass quantities of RTV).
My hunch says CT battery will be pressurized (also) because they come apart to reconfigure. Fact is, nothing is ever as good as a factory seal... so why not cover it with air pressure?
Just a theory folks, don't freak out on me, it's that Up-pack theory I have. Might even be the eventual extender pack, as that bed mount version was one key reason I didn't pull the trigger on CT.
I have not seen Monroe's tear down... does CT pack look any more serviceable than other packs?
Krugerrand
Meow
Hard to say if any of this matters in this moment. These two have met before and an announcement could be as simple as, ‘we’re talking about Tesla investing in India, blah, blah, blah’.
I am reminded at how long it took for Tesla to finalize the deal in China. I’m also reminded of all the people who were unadulteratedly wrong about what the outcome would be of the deal itself and the results along the way. I am finally reminded about all the opinionated people telling us how an India deal couldn’t happen because (69 reasons), or what an India deal looks like if and because (69 reasons).
I predict a slew of people are going to be wrong again about what an India deal looks like and finishes being in the end. I predict the reason for this extended (years now) talking with India is because Elon has a vision for Tesla in India and he’s not willing to compromise in any way that doesn’t benefit both parties equally. Elon is just waiting for India to pull its head out of its butt. It will just like China did. It would be a boon for all if the above announcement was ‘We have reached an agreement that benefits Tesla and India’.
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Krugerrand
Meow
Had a meeting with my ins broker yesterday. Highly interesting on a number of fronts. But to the point - more car insurance rate increases coming in this year across the board. This is going to get worse.
Would be reasonable to have a sizeable footprint in two of the world's most populous nations.
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