DarkandStormy
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Can’t escape this person with ignore on , lol
But we are cousins!
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Can’t escape this person with ignore on , lol
Weird-- I thought Teslas mission was to accelerate the transition to sustainable transport, not "make a ton of cash"
I actually wonder if Elon came to the harsh realization "we ultimately can't beat the Chinese" with regard to EV production. The number of Chinese competitors in the space and the rate at which they iterate on new models is, frankly, astounding. This may just be him pivoting the company as quickly as possible while they still have a material revenue stream from the cars to the thing he thinks they can compete and lead in in: RoboTaxis, Robots, AI-a-go-go, etc.
Whew.... you found something potentially negative to post, so now you can enjoy your morning coffee...
until Delaware happened I didn't see this as significant, the cash flow of incentive money for batteries and EV to Tesla did not look like ignoring to me. But this must be the single most biggest threat against America's number one innovator Tesla and Elon Musk.
Joe Tegtmeyer posts that Elon commented on a photo of Austin Gigafactory
"After Jeff Roberts posted these images of Giga Texas yesterday, @elonmusk commented that the center section of the new extension will be a water cooled supercomputer cluster. This is related to the permits & cooling structural platform under construction we have discussed on previous videos."
Elon said "The rear portion of the factory extension (the part furthest away from the glass) will be a super dense, water-cooled supercomputer cluster".
For those who have been following the Austin southern extension buildout, this defines the purpose of a cooling tower structure that recently started construction adjacent to the main building. It also might explain the 3 strange concrete vaults that were constructed and then burried under the main floor of the southern extension.
Many things are happening within Tesla that are not revealed or explained until Tesla is ready to do so. This board, well-intentioned as it may be, is an advanced exercise in dart-throwing while blindfolded. Happy to be here nevertheless, I really got no where else to go (very much a callout to Richard Gere in 'An Officer and a Gentleman'.
I'd post the link, but I don't remember if that's allowed or not.
The two people I've known killed on motorcycles were both sitting at stoplights and were plowed into from behind. This generally won't happen on a bicycle. Maybe my observation isn't the most common way people die on motorcycles but I suspect it's one of the most common. Never the less, I'm basically paranoid if I'm on a bicycle and sharing the road with motor vehicles.Well sure if you are crashing at the same speeds. Are you riding at 25 - 30 mph?
Cycling at 30 mph is much safer than motorcycle at 50 mph, even with a bit more padding.
I have found those who remains usually work harder and are actually more motivated because they see their hard work was recognized by the company, therefore was not on the chopping block.Glad to see you don't want to discuss further job cuts and the effect they may be having on employee morale.
Thanks for the post.
1. Those aren't mutually exclusive.
B. You don't see "a ton of cash" as an advantage in company survival in difficult economic times?
III. Having cash reserves to fund new endeavors is bad how?
It's interesting that many people believe (or would have you believe) that socially/environmental responsible endeavors are costly, and akin to social programs. Elon has helped demonstrate that you can make $$$ doing the right thing. You just have to be willing to tell folks with vested interests to GFY.
You are correct on point one and your fear is absolutely correct on bicycling. FSD at scale will make it much safer to mix light unarmored vehicles with cars/trucks. Until then riding either with cars/trucks will result in a very high death rate. We need more bicycle paths in the USA.The two people I've known killed on motorcycles were both sitting at stoplights and were plowed into from behind. This generally won't happen on a bicycle. Maybe my observation isn't the most common way people die on motorcycles but I suspect it's one of the most common. Never the less, I'm basically paranoid if I'm on a bicycle and sharing the road with motor vehicles.
Possibly you missed the post to which mine was a reply... which was
"I think people get a bit too obsessed with the 20 million cars a year goal. I'm an investor, not a car collector. If the best way for Tesla to make a ton of cash is to make 2 million robotaxis, or 1 million taxis and 5 million bots, then lets do that."
They seemed to be more focused, as an investor, on "tons of cash" than the value 20 million new BEVs a year would have toward the stated mission of the company, and seemed fine abandoning that if 1/20th that # of taxis, plus 5M bots, was more profitable.
Is this the same as finding 100,000 votes at 3am?
So you don't want to pay him the already agreed stock options for his work over the last 6 years... because you think he may not do a good job going forward? That seems like a way to guarantee he will not do a good job going forward.I own Tesla stock through the two largest online stock brokers in Sweden and apparently both will arrange for the possibility to vote as per news today. I am tempted to vote against the board's recommendation because I lost confidence in Musk as CEO. But at least short term I guess that would be bad for the share price.
Not arguing this, because I believe that Elon does feel that. The question I have is, how could Tesla become complacent without the blame for that resting at least partially on Elon's shoulders? Is he being stymied by the Board, or other decision making structures within Tesla?No problem, except, Tesla, quite clearly in Elon's view, has stagnated and become a trifle complacent.
All true. However, Americans also like/love "cheap stuff"....and "made in China" tends to equate to lower cost for American consumers. The tariffs are designed to protect American businesses, but it seems inevitable that this is a temporary bandaid at best. Look at the dominance American automakers had in the 60s, then the Japanese automakers came in....and later the Koreans. The road may take years or even decades to traverse, but it gets there. It will likely include building Chinese-owned factories on U.S. soil before it's all said and done (Volvo and Polestar enter the chat).Chinese build a lot of things a lot cheaper than American companies can, that doesn’t mean American companies dont still dominate their own home market and take a sizable share of international market. (Especially when your government adds a 100% tariff to chinese imports)
We dont even have to leave the Auto space to find comparisons - decent quality Chinese ICE cars are substantially cheaper than American & European models, yet plenty of American & European models still sell well around the world at far higher prices.
American companies usually dominate in the US with superior brand allegience, service & marketing.