Your post sparked another idea in my head. What IF rear steering was being implemented for the robotaxi? It would benefit a lot from this feature to fulfill its intended purpose much better than 'regular' MY/M3.
Just a thought.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Just a thought.
4% down at this moment, explanation, please?
It may seem so, but a significant number of shares can be traded on the close (market on close or limit on close)
Here's a data point:
666M shares were traded with a high low range of 22 (10% fluctuation). From open to close the difference was $9 (a 4% change)
Overall the price movement in this large volume day was anything but epic.
Guarantee a couple of hundred thousand units from a Tier 1 supplier, they may drop the unit price low enough to make it possible.
The day TSLA was included in the S&P 500. Are you aware of another such event that would warrant that amount of buying?
Which reminds me...since that inclusion closing price:
-TSLA: -22.3%
-SPY: +43.1%
-QQQ: + 46.5%
With TSLA anything <5% is noise.
"Why" explanations are ultimately just the flavor of the day.
(the above statements are not meant to offend anyone)
"Why" explanations are ultimately just the flavor of the day.
(the above statements are not meant to offend anyone)
cliff harris
Member
Its kinda cool that 'there is a disengagement every 200 miles' is seen as a criticism right now. Thats...pretty impressive. As I've said before, you dont need actual robotaxi reliability to see a HUGE boost to the company. Who in the world would use any other car than a tesla for working as an uber driver, when you are probably only having to touch the pedals or steering wheel 1 or 2 times a day? Insane to do ride hailing in a 'dumb' car.
Who would buy any other car if they drive long distances? one engagement every 200 miles versus constantly hands on wheel and feet on pedals. Sometimes even (shudder) changing gears!
I agree with the sentiment that we might see a Tesla ride hailing service with safety drivers in the short term. Not a bad idea. And even if it was revenue-neutral, it means a constant parade of passengers getting to talk to a safety driver who explains how the Tesla is doing 99% of the work. Oh and BTW you can buy one for yourself...
If I was Elon:
Who would buy any other car if they drive long distances? one engagement every 200 miles versus constantly hands on wheel and feet on pedals. Sometimes even (shudder) changing gears!
I agree with the sentiment that we might see a Tesla ride hailing service with safety drivers in the short term. Not a bad idea. And even if it was revenue-neutral, it means a constant parade of passengers getting to talk to a safety driver who explains how the Tesla is doing 99% of the work. Oh and BTW you can buy one for yourself...
If I was Elon:
- I'd be setting up a trial of a Tesla ride hailing service in a US city, with safety drivers, ASAP.
- I'd be aggressively lobbying existing Uber/Lyft/Taxi drivers to get them to try a model 3/Y.
Musskiah
DisGruntled
I appreciate (and agree with) so much of this perspective.
Although "days to cover" may be importantly predictive of a short squeeze (I have used my understanding of this to my advantage dozens of times when trading [not investing in] stocks such as GME and FUV to name just two of many), but it is certainly not the only consideration when it comes to short interest. People have the right, of course, to deny any existence or significance to the obviously high short interest that TSLA continues to experince. I was simply presenting irrefutable data. Do with it as you wish. I'm not going to continue to belabor this .
larmor
Active Member
Normal minor 5 to 10% increase every two weeks or so, and gradual walk down. Very predictable pattern. Nothing to see, continued car production, continued sales and delivery, continued R&D on current and upcoming models, ongoing fsd video and training using nvidia chips, nope, nothing really important here.
+ ongoing several GIGA expansions and many things we don't know about until we do.
The only way shorting is actionable is if doing a naked short while not a market-maker, were someone able to do so. Otherwise shorting is quite legal, so long as the shorter has borrowed the shares.
Calls and Puts are also legal, not actionable.
What do you think is illegal about any of that?
unwise?, perhaps. money maker?, perhaps.
But actionable? No. Some might try to prosecute but they'd lose the case, and probably would be summarily tossed out when entering the action formally.
In the twitter thread someone who acts like she works at Giga Berlin (where this was filmed) says this is just a regular Y used to drive people around, which has been colored just for fun. Seems legit to me. Tobi Lindh who took the video says it appears to be a tight turning radius due to lens compression, but the area is in fact wide enough for a regular car to turn.
He (dl003) is using a different definition of "actionable". He means "tradeable", not "illegal".
More people wanted to sell the stock than to buy it. This pushes the stock price down.
Tesla has lowered the prices of 3 and Y in Norway with up to $6,000 today, Wednesday.
Translated parts from the article:
Tesla is cutting the prices of its most popular models by up to NOK 60,500. Used car dealers are expecting a price war: - It's starting to look like a bloodbath.
- This is probably just the beginning. When the Chinese electric cars really hit Europe next year, then the actual price war will probably begin, says the used car dealer, and points to BYD as a prominent player.
He is supported by Jonathan Parr, co-founder and head of growth at the online used car dealer Rebil.
- I agree. There is fierce competition from Asia, and many of the Asian manufacturers are trying to gain a foothold in Europe. That it is price that applies is quite clear, says Parr to E24.
Amundsen in Marcusbil does not believe that today's price cut from Tesla has been provoked by the Chinese electric car manufacturers.
- We see that Tesla will keep sales up in the same way as they produce. Everything they produce must be sold and they use different strategies to succeed, says Amundsen.
He points out that Tesla also offers aggressive interest rate campaigns in other markets, often in combination with price cuts.
- Has power
Parr in Rebil thinks the same.
- It is expected. Tesla uses the opportunity to change the price in a way that we have not seen before. They do this to utilize their production capacity, says Parr.
He adds that Tesla has had slightly weaker sales, and that the electric car manufacturer has adjusted prices several times - both up and down - in the past year.
- It affects other people's prices. Tesla has power in the market. It affects the new car price directly, while the used market adjusts a bit, while there is a slight difference in how quickly those adjustments are, and how similar and comparable the cars are, says the used car dealer.
Source: Massive priskutt fra Tesla: – Dette er nok bare begynnelsen
Translated parts from the article:
Tesla is cutting the prices of its most popular models by up to NOK 60,500. Used car dealers are expecting a price war: - It's starting to look like a bloodbath.
- This is probably just the beginning. When the Chinese electric cars really hit Europe next year, then the actual price war will probably begin, says the used car dealer, and points to BYD as a prominent player.
He is supported by Jonathan Parr, co-founder and head of growth at the online used car dealer Rebil.
- I agree. There is fierce competition from Asia, and many of the Asian manufacturers are trying to gain a foothold in Europe. That it is price that applies is quite clear, says Parr to E24.
Amundsen in Marcusbil does not believe that today's price cut from Tesla has been provoked by the Chinese electric car manufacturers.
- We see that Tesla will keep sales up in the same way as they produce. Everything they produce must be sold and they use different strategies to succeed, says Amundsen.
He points out that Tesla also offers aggressive interest rate campaigns in other markets, often in combination with price cuts.
- Has power
Parr in Rebil thinks the same.
- It is expected. Tesla uses the opportunity to change the price in a way that we have not seen before. They do this to utilize their production capacity, says Parr.
He adds that Tesla has had slightly weaker sales, and that the electric car manufacturer has adjusted prices several times - both up and down - in the past year.
- It affects other people's prices. Tesla has power in the market. It affects the new car price directly, while the used market adjusts a bit, while there is a slight difference in how quickly those adjustments are, and how similar and comparable the cars are, says the used car dealer.
Source: Massive priskutt fra Tesla: – Dette er nok bare begynnelsen
It'd be nice if you guys can just take care of your short argument in DM or a room instead.
It's really not a big deal at this point for Tesla. It's $20 billion, big woopy doo. For larger companies, it's normal to have large $$ amount of stock shorted simply because the companies are just that big/there is a lot of stock out there to short.
DJT, heavily shorted has like a small $ amount shorted, but if you try to buy say, puts or something, the cost is literally insane and if you see the shares shorted, it's like 84%. Meaning that near every share in existence, someone is using it to short. Tesla, 3%, pulleeezze, who cares?
If you pull up short amount of MSFT, GOOG, NVDA or anything else big, they all have like ~$20 Billions in short positions ALL the time. It's nothing to really point to IMO and a waste of board messages. It's nothing important RIGHT NOW until it starts climbing a ton more in terms of % of float.
Side edit, way to give Musk whatever he wants and shut all doubters up, pull a NVDA in a quarter, up $37+ now after hours (I tend to not care for after hours action), but:
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Reports Q1 (Apr) earnings of $6.12 per share, excluding non-recurring items, $0.52 better than the FactSet Consensus of $5.60; revenues rose 262.1% year/year to $26.04 bln vs the $24.59 bln FactSet Consensus.Data Center: Revenue was a record $22.6 billion, up 23% from the previous quarter and up 427% from a year ago.
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For the full year, gross margins are expected to be in the mid-70% range...
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Look at that growth. Again, no growth = dead for any "growth" stock normally. They need FSD and they need it now.
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