So have owned a regular RWD for about 2 week, just want to share my thoughts on the standard 18in tires and brakes and then comment about whether it makes sense to have these standard items on a P3.
So basically on the first turn after leaving the store, I heard tires squeaking. A day later, I talked to my friend who got his car in May, and he noted that these tires frequently reach grip limit and make the squeaking noise. My wife has noted the same thing as she's driven the car a few times or sat in the car as I drove. All of us are non-aggressive drivers. Basically these standard tires are just not very good and can't really handle the car's torque in everyday driving situations. Obviously an extension of that conclusion is that these tires would be in no way fit for any level of performance driving. I would have absolutely no confidence at making a performance turn with these tires... probably would loose grip easily and spin out if you give power at the apex...
Then the brakes. These are pretty poor brakes... they are very tight, lack any feel, and it' just hard to tell how hard you are braking with them... Compare to say brakes on any BMW and Porsche, they are just poor.
So on a regular everyday model, one can deal with it. OK the tires have low limit, then don't turn too quick, don't accelerate while turning... or of course just get better tires... Brakes are kinda shitty, just start your slowdown sooner, and sometimes step on it harder compared to other cars; can learn and get used to it.
Basically I then want to talk about the P3. If these are the same standard items on the P3, then you are basically getting a handicapped car. You ll have a car with tons of power and torque, but you can't really use them because you ll have shitty tires and brakes... I assume the performance package tires and brakes are much better. Basically my thoughts are if you really want a P3 and will drive it at least sometimes spiritedly, you probably want the performance parts so you are not handicapped by poor tires and brakes. In fact I think it could be dangerous to have such a powerful car with poor tires and brakes (I guess if all you do is go fast in a straight line and always slow down smoothly below 20mph on turns, you should be OK with the standard stuff).
So basically on the first turn after leaving the store, I heard tires squeaking. A day later, I talked to my friend who got his car in May, and he noted that these tires frequently reach grip limit and make the squeaking noise. My wife has noted the same thing as she's driven the car a few times or sat in the car as I drove. All of us are non-aggressive drivers. Basically these standard tires are just not very good and can't really handle the car's torque in everyday driving situations. Obviously an extension of that conclusion is that these tires would be in no way fit for any level of performance driving. I would have absolutely no confidence at making a performance turn with these tires... probably would loose grip easily and spin out if you give power at the apex...
Then the brakes. These are pretty poor brakes... they are very tight, lack any feel, and it' just hard to tell how hard you are braking with them... Compare to say brakes on any BMW and Porsche, they are just poor.
So on a regular everyday model, one can deal with it. OK the tires have low limit, then don't turn too quick, don't accelerate while turning... or of course just get better tires... Brakes are kinda shitty, just start your slowdown sooner, and sometimes step on it harder compared to other cars; can learn and get used to it.
Basically I then want to talk about the P3. If these are the same standard items on the P3, then you are basically getting a handicapped car. You ll have a car with tons of power and torque, but you can't really use them because you ll have shitty tires and brakes... I assume the performance package tires and brakes are much better. Basically my thoughts are if you really want a P3 and will drive it at least sometimes spiritedly, you probably want the performance parts so you are not handicapped by poor tires and brakes. In fact I think it could be dangerous to have such a powerful car with poor tires and brakes (I guess if all you do is go fast in a straight line and always slow down smoothly below 20mph on turns, you should be OK with the standard stuff).
