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Time of Use Supercharging Rates in California
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FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
This could help... Solar and Batteries would reduce the demand charges and lower the overall cost to Supercharge.
electrek.co
"Elon Musk has long promised that Tesla will deploy solar and batteries to all its Supercharger stations in order to reduce their dependence on the grid. It has yet to happen, and now we are seeing some examples of why it should happen sooner rather than later. There are several reasons why you would want to deploy batteries and solar power at electric vehicle charging stations.
From a financial standpoint, a large part of the cost of running an EV charging station consists of demand charges, which is a higher rate of electricity during surges in demand. The nature of a charging station results in a lot of the operating time at peak level since you can go hours without a car charging, and then there can be five cars charging at once. Batteries would be able to reduce the peak demand to greatly reduce the demand charges, which often account for more than a third of the cost of operating a charger."
Tesla needs to deliver on promise to deploy solar and batteries at Supercharger stations
Elon Musk has long promised that Tesla will deploy solar and batteries to all its Supercharger stations in order to...
electrek.co
"Elon Musk has long promised that Tesla will deploy solar and batteries to all its Supercharger stations in order to reduce their dependence on the grid. It has yet to happen, and now we are seeing some examples of why it should happen sooner rather than later. There are several reasons why you would want to deploy batteries and solar power at electric vehicle charging stations.
From a financial standpoint, a large part of the cost of running an EV charging station consists of demand charges, which is a higher rate of electricity during surges in demand. The nature of a charging station results in a lot of the operating time at peak level since you can go hours without a car charging, and then there can be five cars charging at once. Batteries would be able to reduce the peak demand to greatly reduce the demand charges, which often account for more than a third of the cost of operating a charger."
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The peak/off-peak hours should be accurate in the nav of your car so you can see the price (if not on the unlimited) of any nearby supercharging any time there. It seems to have gone up to .29/.58 now from .24/.48 earlier this year.Newbie here. How to get the Tesla company alert, if anyone knows, I didn't know the off-peak hour was pushed off 2 hours later. My cost was doubled, which means fewer savings for my wife's gas spending
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I had no idea peak Supercharging rate was that high. 48 cents per kWh is the equivalent of 12 cents per mile. Assuming ICE cars run at 30 mpg, this Supercharging rate is equivalent to a $3.6 per gallon gas price. In the early days of Covid, driving a gas car was actually cheaper.
That's only if you ONLY supercharging at the highest rate period. Most people could get lower rate charging at home at certain hours or at supercharging at lower rate period. I think on average, it would be closer to 25c / kWh
Ok 25 cents is reasonable. Ladwp charges 20 cents so this really isn’t much more. EVGo charges much higher base rates.
Here in WI, they charge per min, and the rates are going as high as $1.20/min, which sounds high to me.
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Is there a law in WI that EV charging has to be per min? It seems to me that they are converting the per kWh rate to per min. I think the bottom rate (highest) one is the beginning of the session when you are more empty so it was charging faster so you get charged a higher rate. Then at the top, the charging curve slows down so you get charged a lower rate. They are still charging you per kWh, but breaking it down into a per min curve. That's just my guess.
The time charge definitely looks different. I wonder if they are factoring the demand charge. Commercial electricity charges can factor in a demand charge for not only how many kWh you use, but also how fast you use them. I understand this is cover the electric company extra costs needs to use to hook up a high draw customer.
You guessed it right. The highest (Tier4) is for charging above 180kW.
Tesla Superchargers' per-minute pricing gets a welcome update
Tesla has rolled out some changes to the Supercharger Network’s per-minute pricing. With the new update in place, drivers who are billed per minute would now be charged according to four tiers, each one corresponding to a charger’s speed. Tesla notes in its Supercharger Support page that...
www.teslarati.com
They snuck another change to the hours in California. It must have happened today or yesterday. Kind of got burned on this today since I sent someone to charge my car thinking it was off peak before 11 am and after 9 pm. Turns out it’s now before 9 am and after 10 pm. A little warning would have been nice.
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Here is the previous rate structure... I wonder if Tesla made additional changes beyond the 11 am - 9 pm hours?
Tesla owners in California feel uneasy as Supercharging costs are constantly on the rise - Tesla Oracle
Tesla Supercharging rates have increased in California recently. Tesla owners are reporting exponential charging costs especially during peak hours.
www.teslaoracle.com
Following is the list of Tesla Supercharging costs per kWh during peak and off-peak hours:
| Hours | Supercharging Rates |
|---|---|
| 12am – 11am | $0.29/kWh |
| 11am – 9pm | $0.58/kWh |
| 9pm – 12am | $0.29/kWh |
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