TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

[dondy]

I disagree with this. TSLA was trading at $360 before Elon’s take private tweet. Every actual negative event since then has been due to that tweet and here we are now over $110 / 30% lower. Everything involving the SEC investigation, rejection of settlement, lawsuit filing, settlement agreement, and subsequent anti-SEC tweets would not have happened without that initial take private tweet.

Aside from the take private tweet - the only fundamental news we have had since earnings was good news (Q3 delivery letter).

this is of course BS. There were news about leaving executives. There was of course stock drop associated with them, there is SEC investigation about model 3 numbers. With of course stock drop associated with it. There was another injection about UAW, With of course stock drop associated with it. There were hit pieces after interviews, after visiting Tesla, spy case, fake reporting, etc.etc. etc.

And you guys see only "smoking pot", "pedo", and "wrong fight with SEC".
Apparently FUD does work, pity to see this.

 

[SpaceCash]

Wow so all this time, when people thought Tesla was losing execs left & right, they were actually being planted. That's some multi-dimensional 4D chess going on there

Straight up Sun Tzu shiznet right there. Honestly, in this particular instance I think we really are looking at 4d chess

 

[Dutchie]

I feel like a broken record here, but the SEC does not need to prove intent. That's not the purpose of the SEC.

The SEC exists to:

• protect investors
• maintain fair, orderly, and efficient markets
• facilitate capital formation.

They don't need to prove intent when doing things to try and achieve this mission.

"Proving intent" is necessary for criminal proceedings, but the SEC never puts anyone in jail.

And "protect investors" is only one part of their mission. Shorts and Put option holders are also covered under #2.

The whole point of disclosure laws is so that everyone is on a level playing field. No one gets an advantage via material information asymmetry, which is necessary for the second part of their mission.

I think these guys analyzed it pretty well

 

[SpaceCash]

Guys we've recouped half the day's losses in AH. I think this is significant

 

[phil0909]

What if I think that all humans are inferior scum that deserve to be rounded up by my species' destructor fleet and forced to work in our offworld spice mines?

I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.

 

[NikeWings]

I feel like a broken record here, but the SEC does not need to prove intent. That's not the purpose of the SEC.

The SEC exists to:

• protect investors
• maintain fair, orderly, and efficient markets
• facilitate capital formation.

You missed the fine print........except for TSLA.

 

[defc0n]

Guys we've recouped half the days losses in AH. I think this is significant

I’m more than likely buying around 11am tomorrow.

 

[elasalle]

Macquarie gave an outperform rating.

Anyone have link to Macquarie? Did they give a price target of $430?

 

[Unpilot]

I AM NOT BUYIING ANYMORE....I think.

 

[Sparky]

Anyone have link to Macquarie? Did they give a price target of $430?

I saw it on Benzinga:
By:
Maynard Um
Not too bad: 62% on TipRanks.

 

[Boomer19]

Zero. I have zero on my ignore list. That’s bad, huh?

i’ve added a handful.
i wonder how many ignore me? would be interesting to get feedback as to why they think i’m an idiot. although i could just ask boomer, he’s got a running list of reasons.

 

[Intl Professor]

What if I think that all humans are inferior scum that deserve to be rounded up by my species' destructor fleet and forced to work in our offworld spice mines?

Or, as Archie said to Mehitabel, "people think they are so important, but to a mosquito, they are just something to eat."

 

[Webeevdrivers]

Guys we've recouped half the day's losses in AH. I think this is significant

I see that. How does after or pre market trading happen. Not a financial guru here. How can the stock be bought and sold without being traded on a market. Edumacate me.

 

[traxila]

I see that. How does after or pre market trading happen. Not a financial guru here. How can the stock be bought and sold without being traded on a market. Edumacate me.

Traded in pre and after hours markets. Usually thinly traded unless big news. Almost all traders wait till proper market open for maximum liquidity.

 

[SpaceCash]

I see that. How does after or pre market trading happen. Not a financial guru here. How can the stock be bought and sold without being traded on a market. Edumacate me.

Ya just put in an after hours trade. Most brokers allow it. To be perfectly honest I don't see why there's even a line drawn there. I bet in the future there will not be a distinction made between AH and the current normal daily hours.

 

[dondy]

These are my words to make the point shorter.

I don't know all the past history, but my understanding is that Tesla only had a couple of profitable quarters before. So it is a normal modus operandi. He got tired of shorts saying that you're not a company if you don't turn a profit, so he dedicated Q3 to prove you can make a profit on EVs.

If the point is proven, he could decide it's not worth repeating the exercise in Q4 etc. and go back into the expansion mode.

Actually not. Already in 2015 he decided that Model 3 will be the turning point. he even was saying that Tesla will be ready to be without him after Model 3. That he will leave. This new contract he got this year probably is the way to keep him longer.
This year he said that model 3 is the last bet he does. During 2017 and this year he stated a number of times that it is time to pay debts. More of it he has reiterated that going green is becoming priority for the company.

He was saying numerous times that his "hart" is in SpaceX.
If anybody of you is thinking that he somehow is clinging to this company or he wants all this publicity you are delusional. He is very loyal, and definitely he likes to have fans. But it's about it.

 

[Webeevdrivers]

Ya just put in an after hours trade. Most brokers allow it. To be perfectly honest I don't see why there's even a line drawn there. I bet in the future there will not be a distinction made between AH and the current normal daily hours.

Interesting. How late and how early do they trade (before market opening I mean).

Off topic. I have learned almost everything I know about stock trading on this Tesla Forum....and I don't own a Tesla...yet.

 

[supratachophobia]

i’ve added a handful.
i wonder how many ignore me? would be interesting to get feedback as to why they think i’m an idiot. although i could just ask boomer, he’s got a running list of reasons.

Or.... You could just not care what other people think. But for what it's worth, I think you're great.

 

[tivoboy]

Ya just put in an after hours trade. Most brokers allow it. To be perfectly honest I don't see why there's even a line drawn there. I bet in the future there will not be a distinction made between AH and the current normal daily hours.

Usually one has to setup pre or after hours market trading with a broker directly as I believe they have to get informed consent that PM/AH hours CAN have much higher volatility. At least that is the way it was a few years ago.

I like trading many stocks in the after hours after earnings as usually there can be a nice pop and then it's a SELL.

 

[SpaceCash]

Interesting. How late and how early do they trade (before market opening I mean).

Off topic. I have learned almost everything I know about stock trading on this Tesla Forum....and I don't own a Tesla...yet.

Starts at 4AM Eastern. Ends I wanna say 7PM Eastern?