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Is this report the reason for the pre-market blip up?
Fighting FUD with facts might be helping SP
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Is this report the reason for the pre-market blip up?
I would but it looks too much like an IRS form. Ughhh...gives my the willies! LOL!Anyone had a chance to review to 10K? I'm driving to work so I cant dive into the 10K and don't see anyone post on synopsis.
And what long term advantage for Tesla do you see with Elon’s behavior on the call, which he admitted he should have handled differently?
Well they haven't done anything yet. Besides, Elon said that they wouldn't NEED to raise capital. He never said that they might WANT to if a particularly meaty project came along that would put them in a much better place in the long run.This is CNBC’s summary. I just don’t get it when Elon specifically said over and over that they do not need capital raise.
I suspect the CNBC paragraph on Tesla is Tesla referring to possible capital raise in the distant future when Model Y ramps, etc... Of course, media puts their spin on itThis is CNBC’s summary. I just don’t get it when Elon specifically said over and over that they do not need capital raise.
You gonna translate all that for us now? LOL!
Let me guess...it all boils down to "WE'RE BANKWUPT!"
Dan
Why translate ?
Read the important part:
"Our production plan for Model 3 is based on many key assumptions, including:
- that we will be able to complete ramping high volume production of Model 3 at the Tesla Factory without exceeding our projected costs and on our projected timeline;
- that we will be able to continue to expand Gigafactory 1 in a timely manner to produce high volumes of quality lithium-ion cells to be integrated into battery modules and finished battery packs and drive unit components for Model 3, all at costs that allow us to sell Model 3 at our target gross margins;
- that the equipment and processes which we have selected for Model 3 production will be able to accurately manufacture high volumes of Model 3 vehicles within specified design tolerances and with high quality;
- that we will be able to maintain suppliers for the necessary components on terms and conditions that are acceptable to us and th at we will be able to obtain high-quality components on a timely basis and in the necessary quantities to support high-volume production; and
If one or more of the foregoing assumptions turns out to be incorrect, our ability to meet our Model 3 projections on time and at volumes and prices that are profitable, demand for and deliveries of Model 3, as well as our business, prospects, operating results and financial condition, may be materially and adversely impacted."
- that we will be able to attract, recruit, hire, train and retain skilled employees to operate our planned high volume production facilities to support Model 3, including at the Tesla Factory and Gigafactory 1.
Like i said, estimating future EPS for investment decisions is (the only?) way to invest your money, no argument there. The original poster even said that much in his follow up, only his initial post didnt have that disclaimer and made it seem that he does not care about EPS at all, which is foolish imo.people, of course, can do whatever they want, and while I wouldn't use the term "laughable," I basically agree with you "justvisiting."
fwiw, use of the approach you mentioned (forecasting forward EPS) convinced me to put ~25% of my assets into a core TSLA position in 2012 based on weighted averaging several EPS scenarios I modeled for 2017 (with a lot of help from a report by Adam Jonas) that led me to a $175 target price. I had no idea then how the rest of the auto market would be so focused on kicking the can down the road on getting into EVs, so I had forecasted profits, rather than massive reinvestment into torrent growth for another decade plus.
Using a conservative version of this method (very conservative on the early stage businesses it's far harder to know what reasonable assumptions would be), I forecast a price of $1200-1800 c.2026.
Shouldn't that be TESLATIN though? LOL!The shorts better stock up
10-k is only existing/ contract/booked amounts right? So if there is a massive deal in the works, Elon could know about incoming monies that are not yet on the balance sheet.This is CNBC’s summary. I just don’t get it when Elon specifically said over and over that they do not need capital raise.
EM stated on the cc that Fremont capacity is full. They can try to increase the production numbers towards 5,000/week but the jury is still out on this. Any increase beyond that is pure illusion.
The statements of EM have no value and one cannot base any forecasts on these.
Well they haven't done anything yet. Besides, Elon said that they wouldn't NEED to raise capital. He never said that they might WANT to if a particularly meaty project came along that would put them in a much better place in the long run.
Dan
They do not rule out cap increases contrary to what EM said:
"We continually evaluate our capital expenditure needs and may raise additional capital to fund the rapid growth of our business."
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