Mokuzai
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If Tesla had any desire to advertise, I would hope for something like this.
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dqd88
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it's a beaut. i wish tesla would make educational type videos to explain the engineering/safety. yes they write about it, but a video would be more accessible/more people would watch.
Agreed. Everything is laid out contingent to fixing the main bottleneck. You have to prove that they knew they didn't know how to fix the bottle neck AND that the fix they didn't know how to do they knew would take a long time lol. It's even hard to write that logic. And anyone who programs knows how hard it is to estimate time for troubleshooting. Sometimes you find the wrong bracket quickly, sometimes it takes a week lol. How that justifies DOJ involvement I don't understand.
dqd88
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I don't remember exactly; I should've done a screenshot. I complained that the WSJ mislead investors and harmed stock price while it was in an uptrend by releasing false information.
... and i asked them to make an example of the WSJ as this thing happens often.
If Ford had taken VW in 1948, I doubt that VW would be what it is today!
Yeah it's puzzling that they would still be investing resources into it without some kind of reasonable angle. I'm not gonna assume I know what that angle is until I see something at least plausible that I can argue against.
Also, maybe if the case is that they mislead the public we can deliver some statements from helpful short sellers that promised it was impossible to ramp that fast. I mean.. how would they know that if the company had covered it all up?
dc_h
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Apples moat is design, ease of use and expectations of privacy. The app environment is a city that has grown outside the moat. Competition can’t attack the moat, because off the development community surrounding the moat.
With some luck Tesla will build a secondary community outside of the core moat. I’d say Tesla has several moats, design, safety, efficiency, super chargers, brand, autopilot giga factories are a series of moats that VW is talking about attacking, but no one has an exestiantial plan. Secondary protection is speed of innovation, which is like lowering the ground that your competition stands on as it approaches the moats. The dev community around Tesla for now is us, crazy people who’ve been following Tesla and Elon, perhaps starting with spacex, or passion about EV’s or just early adopters who love the next new thing. I think the next moat or innovation will be the new Tesla chip and neural net, which will be the foundation of the Tesla network and possibly an information network. Need a parking spot, the network will route you to the closest open spot. The business opportunities of the neural network have barely been scratched. Tesla driving network is just the first obvious opportunity.
Happy weekend and congrats longs
Ps: anyone interested in a class action suit against WSJ? Today’s fake news is obvious plant.
I’m totally serious. We’ve got a few 100 thousand shares here. A small settlement with a cease and desist order is all I ask.
Hiked down into hells canyon last 5 days, knew I’d miss out on this exciting week, trying to catch up, but just glad grabbed those cheap shares last week!!! Same old short seller tricks toda, it won’t stop, but seeing them run for the hills is great. Great job Tesla. Ale America great again, hell yeah
Why are you predicting first year of “full production” at Shanghai in 2024? They are already starting to construct the factory and limited production happens in 2019.
In what universe does it take Tesla 5 years to finish building the Shanghai plant?
I actually expect Tesla to have at least 2 new factories running by 2024 - probably 3 (Shanghai, Europe, & one additional US location)
Artful Dodger
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I look forward to even more confusion over the acronym "SC"Perhaps Tesla could make a performance subdivision though of it's brand (like Mercedes with AMG)
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ZachF
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Tesla now up YTD, vs. other automakers (down heavily)
1. Sometimes people panic, especially if they have a lot of money concentrated into one stock. How did you feel when TSLA went to $250 a few times this year, below 200-day moving average and all the news were terribly negative?
2. Sometimes people can't hold onto winners. When they finally see their holdings bounce back to break even or slightly positive, they quickly sell for tiny profit. That is the wrong approach; I made that mistake with other stocks when I was new to investment.
For my first point, don't panic during pullbacks. Tesla's real downside is very limited. If you don't use lots of margin, don't worry about pullbacks. You can sit through them or buy more shares at a low price using new cash.
For my second point, if you happen to be the type who can't hold onto winners, my suggestion is to hold onto the stock until it gets close to $500 or $600; I think those levels are coming for TSLA. Then you can slowly reduce your shares, to a point where most of your original investment is back in the bank account, but keep your profits invested in TSLA. Hold onto the free shares and see if they can run to $8000. You can sell a few more shares along the way, but hold onto most of the free shares for at least 10 years. $8000 is not 100% sure, but I think the possibility is pretty high.
Personally, I plan to hold all of my shares until 2030~2035.
2. Sometimes people can't hold onto winners. When they finally see their holdings bounce back to break even or slightly positive, they quickly sell for tiny profit. That is the wrong approach; I made that mistake with other stocks when I was new to investment.
For my first point, don't panic during pullbacks. Tesla's real downside is very limited. If you don't use lots of margin, don't worry about pullbacks. You can sit through them or buy more shares at a low price using new cash.
For my second point, if you happen to be the type who can't hold onto winners, my suggestion is to hold onto the stock until it gets close to $500 or $600; I think those levels are coming for TSLA. Then you can slowly reduce your shares, to a point where most of your original investment is back in the bank account, but keep your profits invested in TSLA. Hold onto the free shares and see if they can run to $8000. You can sell a few more shares along the way, but hold onto most of the free shares for at least 10 years. $8000 is not 100% sure, but I think the possibility is pretty high.
Personally, I plan to hold all of my shares until 2030~2035.
You need to know only Americans watch super bowl, well, there are others, but mainly Americans.
A better way of doing it could be make a high quality video and upload to YouTube on Super Bowls day, people all around the globe watch Super bowl ad compilations, make some deal with YouTube and make sure it shows up when people search related keywords.
I doubt Kuka themselves would design and build a line - more likely the contractor for the line was using Kuka bots. So it's not unlikely Kuka bots were involved, but Kuka would have zero blame.
ZachF
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You'd be surprised at the number of people over 45 who know absolutely nothing about Tesla.
A 2.6% take rate for Model 3 would mean 2018 production is sold out at 8000/week average production rate.
He's definitely a friend and probably a believer in the mission. And I don't think he'd let Elon push him around too much, he's been running a successful business for far too long to be a pushover, so hopefully he'd pass the "independent" test. Though he does likely have large TSLA holdings, I don't think that's a problem since that just means he's going to be more in favor of the company, not the man?
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